Movies You Should not Watch With Your Family

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#1 the_master_race
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so I was talking to my friend about the most fucked up movies we ever seen and then I remembered Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom , you know , I've seen a lof of creepy & weird shit movies but none of them can match Salo , I mean, if there was a list for the-most-fucked-up-movies-that-you-should-not-watch-with-your-family-ever , salo would be on top of it ....

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Debbie does Dallas

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it can't be as bad as A Serbian Film

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Caligula. Probably not a good idea to watch it in general.

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I read a summary of the plot... and aside from the plethora of coprophagia, it doesn't sound all that awful.

And I also found out the film is based on the 1785 novel of the same name by the Marquis de Sade. Not surprising.

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I generally try to avoid movies like 120 days of Sodom/ Salo/ A Serbian Film, but I have seen numerous movies that I would not want to watch with my parents, mostly horror.

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That movie looks like confirmation of the patriarchy if you ask me.

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There are plenty of movies you shouldn't watch with your family, but if we take it one step further let's go with films that you probably shouldn't even watch by yourself.

Any Lars Von Trier film, but Antichrist especially. I like messed up films but that one took me a couple sittings to get through and in the end it was more nasty than rewarding. And this is coming from someone who loved Oldboy (Korean version).

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I have Star Gate Children of the gods 18 version. My brother asked me why it was a 18 cert as he wanted to watch it with his 12 year old kid knowing SG1 wasn't all that violent. I said I cant remember just watch it cant be all that bad been SG1. Later on I remembered why it was 18 cert with one of females getting out of sarcophagus all naked and full frontal. So I told him. He said yeah I no we just watched that bit. My brother was thinking he was going to ask question but just continued to watch it. lol.

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Those kind of movies I don't even watch by myself.

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@skipper847 said:

I have Star Gate Children of the gods 18 version. My brother asked me why it was a 18 cert as he wanted to watch it with his 12 year old kid knowing SG1 wasn't all that violent. I said I cant remember just watch it cant be all that bad been SG1. Later on I remembered why it was 18 cert with one of females getting out of sarcophagus all naked and full frontal. So I told him. He said yeah I no we just watched that bit. My brother was thinking he was going to ask question but just continued to watch it. lol.

If I remember correctly SG1 was originally pitched to showtime, thus the nudity in the pilot. Although it wasn't anything terribly graphic. No sex, and minimal violence for a paid cable program.

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Begotten. One of the few movies I've been unable to finish. It is disturbing.

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@the_master_race: i cant find it on netflix or amazon prime? is DVD the only option?

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@Byshop said:

There are plenty of movies you shouldn't watch with your family, but if we take it one step further let's go with films that you probably shouldn't even watch by yourself.

Any Lars Von Trier film, but Antichrist especially. I like messed up films but that one took me a couple sittings to get through and in the end it was more nasty than rewarding. And this is coming from someone who loved Oldboy (Korean version).

-Byshop

Antichrist was amazing and im not quite sure why you're putting Oldboy or Antichrist on the same level. Neither are very hard to watch and in terms of keeping up, they are definitely on two very different tiers.

I will agree about Lars though, he typically does very difficult movies to watch. Although they can be very rewarding if you pay attention.

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@steppy76 said:

Begotten. One of the few movies I've been unable to finish. It is disturbing.

Ive been wanting to see Begotten for years now.

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#17 Byshop  Moderator
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@kod said:
@Byshop said:

There are plenty of movies you shouldn't watch with your family, but if we take it one step further let's go with films that you probably shouldn't even watch by yourself.

Any Lars Von Trier film, but Antichrist especially. I like messed up films but that one took me a couple sittings to get through and in the end it was more nasty than rewarding. And this is coming from someone who loved Oldboy (Korean version).

-Byshop

Antichrist was amazing and im not quite sure why you're putting Oldboy or Antichrist on the same level. Neither are very hard to watch and in terms of keeping up, they are definitely on two very different tiers.

I will agree about Lars though, he typically does very difficult movies to watch. Although they can be very rewarding if you pay attention.

Well, both movies cover some subject matter than many would find a bit hard to watch or would find depressing, but for different reasons. Antichrist, like pretty much all Lars movies, is breathtakingly beautifully filmed and had a lot of promise, but by the end it just descended into over the top nihilism (also like pretty much all Lars movies). The physical mutilation scenes were also pretty over-the-top, but what else should one expect from a film that employed porn performers to provide "stunt genitalia"?

Although I felt like it started out -really- strong, by the end I didn't feel like Antichrist's story was worth the endurance watching it was by a pretty significant margin.

Oldboy, by comparison, is still a pretty bleak movie but it also felt very rewarding by the end. It had a story and even better it was a rewarding mystery. So often, when you have a mystery in a story the "resolution" of the mystery turns out to be far less interesting than the mystery was, but with Oldboy it built and built right up until the end. The idea that "you were asking the wrong question. Instead of asking 'why did Woo-jin Lee imprison me?', you should have been asking 'why did Woo-jin Lee let me go?'" was brilliant. It also didn't go over the top with the physical stuff. While it was certainly a violent movie, most of the worst stuff was implied.

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I mean, if there was a list for the-most-fucked-up-movies-that-you-should-not-watch-with-your-family-ever , salo would be on top of it ....

So im just going to take this as a "fucked up movies list".

Visitor Q - Probably Miike's craziest work. Ive seen it quite a few times (mostly with friends i wanted to see it) and i still cant really figure it all out.

The Girl Next Door - So, i knew about this real crime story for years before this movie (and the other) came out and that is probably what turned me off so much. But ive seen it one time and i refuse to see it again, it made me feel like i needed to shower afterward because of how closely it resembled the real events.

Men Behind the Sun - Old Chinese movie about a Japanese army base that did testing on the Chinese. Real children were used in the filming of autopsies and a real cat was thrown into a room full of starving rats.

A Serbian Film - Ug. A movie about increasing extremes leading to infant porn.

Guinea Pig series - Fucked up. Early torture porn before Saw and what not. Typically gore does not do much for me but this series is just screwed up.

I spit on your grave - the original is very very very fucked up.

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@Byshop said:

Well, both movies cover some subject matter than many would find a bit hard to watch or would find depressing, but for different reasons. Antichrist, like pretty much all Lars movies, is breathtakingly beautifully filmed and had a lot of promise, but by the end it just descended into over the top nihilism (also like pretty much all Lars movies). The physical mutilation scenes were also pretty over-the-top, but what else should one expect from a film that employed porn performers to provide "stunt genitalia"?

Although I felt like it started out -really- strong, by the end I didn't feel like Antichrist's story was worth the endurance watching it was by a pretty significant margin.

Oldboy, by comparison, is still a pretty bleak movie but it also felt very rewarding by the end. It had a story and even better it was a rewarding mystery. So often, when you have a mystery in a story the "resolution" of the mystery turns out to be far less interesting than the mystery was, but with Oldboy it built and built right up until the end. The idea that "you were asking the wrong question. Instead of asking 'why did Woo-jin Lee imprison me?', you should have been asking 'why did Woo-jin Lee let me go?'" was brilliant. It also didn't go over the top with the physical stuff. While it was certainly a violent movie, most of the worst stuff was implied.

-Byshop

I can see Antichrist being hard to watch or difficult to watch (with family? i guess) but Oldboy is far more along the lines of a "fucked up" movie for your average movie goer. Anyone who enjoys a good mystery should love Oldboy. Nothing is ever taken over the top, and even the ending is brilliantly done for how disturbing it truly is.

That said, a bit off the topic, i think Oldboy is actually my least favorite of the Vengeance trilogy.

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@kod said:

I can see Antichrist being hard to watch or difficult to watch (with family? i guess) but Oldboy is far more along the lines of a "fucked up" movie for your average movie goer.

That said, a bit off the topic, i think Oldboy is actually my least favorite of the Vengeance trilogy.

Antichrist has scenes that are basically porn (there's an "insertion" shot in the first 5 minutes of the film, not to mention all the genital shots that involve mutilation later on). Oldboy is pretty violent, and some elements of the story (i.e. the incest bits) aren't exactly family friendly, but when you compare that to the stuff that happens in Antichrist that I can't even describe on this forum because it violates our CoC polices around overtly sexually explicit discussion I'd say that one wins the "least family appropriate" film between the two.

Also, Oldboy was my favorite of the trilogy for the reasons I described above. Mr. Vengeance was just bleak AF. Mrs. Vengeance I thought was halfway between the two (and I liked it a lot better for it).

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Pulp Fiction. So, funny story. The movie came out when I was around 12 or what not, and my dad read a review for the film, and he thought it would be a good idea to take my mom and me out to see it. My mom has a very low tolerance for swearing, so needless to say we didn't last long. Didn't even get past the opening diner scene.

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@Byshop said:

Antichrist has scenes that are basically porn (there's an "insertion" shot in the first 5 minutes of the film, not to mention all the genital shots that involve mutilation later on). Oldboy is pretty violent, and some elements of the story (i.e. the incest bits) aren't exactly family friendly, but when you compare that to the stuff that happens in Antichrist that I can't even describe on this forum because it violates our CoC polices around overtly sexually explicit discussion I'd say that one wins the "least family appropriate" film between the two.

You have to remember there is also a cultural thing going on here. American's are far too sensitive to sex, sexuality, natural acts. I definitely agree that it is the more inappropriate for a family setting, but uhhh... i dont know. I guess it depends on how much your family values art.

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Also, Oldboy was my favorite of the trilogy for the reasons I described above. Mr. Vengeance was just bleak AF. Mrs. Vengeance I thought was halfway between the two (and I liked it a lot better for it).

Mr Vengeance was brilliant. Park deconstructed the nature of revenge and led us to a point where there was no protagonist, you had no idea who to feel bad for or who to root for or be against. Visually it definitely had more going for it than Oldboy.

Lady Vengeance was very different from the other two. This was Parks most cerebral movies. Something Park had never done in the previous two movies was the surreal moments that littered the movie. It was also far more symbolic than either of the other two. Visually it was a masterpiece as well but the story was far more simplistic than Oldboy or Mr V. but was told in a very nonlinear way.

You should watch Stoker. Its Park's first American movie and its pretty damn good. I have not been able to confirm it and have many discussions on it, but im convinced its a remake of a Hitchcock film.

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@kod said:

You have to remember there is also a cultural thing going on here. American's are far too sensitive to sex, sexuality, natural acts. I definitely agree that it is the more inappropriate for a family setting, but uhhh... i dont know. I guess it depends on how much your family values art.

Yeah, I get that but it wasn't the fact that there was sex in it or how explicit the sex was. While it was surprisingly, I was still very much onboard for the ride for about half the film. But then you get to the torture, the mutilation, the blood and how some if it was... obtained, the rusty pair of scissors and what was done with them, etc... That still was pretty over the top.

Plus, it's hard to imagine anyone sitting next to their mom and nudging her in the shoulder saying "hey mom! Check out the monster wang on Willem Dafoe!"

Art is art, and I don't think any subject matter should ever be "off limits" but at the same time, handle your topics with tact or face the backlash.

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Mr Vengeance was brilliant. Park deconstructed the nature of revenge and led us to a point where there was no protagonist, you had no idea who to feel bad for or who to root for or be against. Visually it definitely had more going for it than Oldboy.

Lady Vengeance was very different from the other two. This was Parks most cerebral movies. Something Park had never done in the previous two movies was the surreal moments that littered the movie. It was also far more symbolic than either of the other two. Visually it was a masterpiece as well but the story was far more simplistic than Oldboy or Mr V. but was told in a very nonlinear way.

You should watch Stoker. Its Park's first American movie and its pretty damn good. I have not been able to confirm it and have many discussions on it, but im convinced its a remake of a Hitchcock film.

I like that aspect of Mr Vengeance, and my favorite revenge films are those where vengeance is shown is cyclical here even if there is a clear protagonist the character causes just as much damage in their quest as the person they are after. This was an element in Kill Bill and it was a central theme in Afro Samurai and was the main tragedy of the story. The same was true in the sequel, especially when Afro had to fight Shichigoro, who was probably the best and most moral character in both movies. The issue I had with Mr. Vengeance was that it was just too bleak.

I loved Mrs. Vengeance for it's visual style and storytelling.

I'm aware of Stoker but I haven't seen it yet. Even though it's Chanwook Park the premise didn't immediately grab me so I held off. You should also check out Thirst (his vampire film) and I am looking forward to The Handmaiden (based on The Fingerlings).

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@the_master_race: i cant find it on netflix or amazon prime? is DVD the only option?

well, it's not rly Netflix material , just watch it online for free >> https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x151a8p

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@Byshop said:

There are plenty of movies you shouldn't watch with your family

Pretty much this. There's a lot of movies I wouldn't feel comfortable watching with the family.

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@Byshop said:

I'm aware of Stoker but I haven't seen it yet. Even though it's Chanwook Park the premise didn't immediately grab me so I held off. You should also check out Thirst (his vampire film) and I am looking forward to The Handmaiden (based on The Fingerlings).

-Byshop

Yea ive seen Thirst, wasnt too impressed with it. Seen JSA?

Not Park, but another amazing Korean flick is Memories of Murder.

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