Music: Take Another Look

Everyone loves familiarity- everyone loves to know (and expect) what note is coming next in a tune they are listening to. If you are like me, you listen to a pop/rock/metal tune and you just know what progression is going to come next. You expect it, and more often than not, you are right, but if you are wrong, you are pissed off because it didn't go as planned. Well you are the sucker, because not all music is expected to play out just as you planned, for if it was, you may as well have f*^&%(& wrote it.

Music is supposed to ******** It's not supposed to do ANYTHING!!! It is what it is, and if it chooses to tell an audio story that is unlike anything you have ever heard before, because it breaks all conventions and just chooses to tell a story based on audible notes and tones alone that are entirely based on ones own interpretation, then deal with it, enjoy it, and draw your own conclusions!

Artists that choose to pave their own way with disregard to ignorant convention are the likes of Iannis Xenakis, Camille Saint-Saens, Edgar Varese, and Anton Webern to name just a few, as they chose to weave an elegant tapestry of audible goodness all their own, and if if you don't understand it, that is your problem, not theirs.

I could give a crap less about pretentious ephemeral nonsense like Green F*&^!& Day or My C^%&*#!^ Romance.

Is it just a juvenile wonton ignorance that makes these bands so popular?

Is there no accounting for for taste, style, or substance?!

I could give a crap less about pretentious ephemeral nonsense like Green F*&^!& Day or My C^%&*#!^ Romance.

Is it just a juvenile wonton ignorance that makes these bands so popular?

Is there no accounting for for taste, style, or substance?!

pOOPYpANTZ

[QUOTE="pOOPYpANTZ"]

I could give a crap less about pretentious ephemeral nonsense like Green F*&^!& Day or My C^%&*#!^ Romance.

Is it just a juvenile wonton ignorance that makes these bands so popular?

Is there no accounting for for taste, style, or substance?!

mexicangordo

Hmm, OK, why are you even listening? Are you a lemming to popular/commercial culture?

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="pOOPYpANTZ"]

I could give a crap less about pretentious ephemeral nonsense like Green F*&^!& Day or My C^%&*#!^ Romance.

Is it just a juvenile wonton ignorance that makes these bands so popular?

Is there no accounting for for taste, style, or substance?!

pOOPYpANTZ

Hmm, OK, why are you even listening? Are you a lemming to popular/commercial culture?

[QUOTE="pOOPYpANTZ"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="pOOPYpANTZ"]

I could give a crap less about pretentious ephemeral nonsense like Green F*&^!& Day or My C^%&*#!^ Romance.

Is it just a juvenile wonton ignorance that makes these bands so popular?

Is there no accounting for for taste, style, or substance?!

mexicangordo

Hmm, OK, why are you even listening? Are you a lemming to popular/commercial culture?

rock music ain't dieing and it never will you jsut have to look in different places to find it.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="pOOPYpANTZ"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="pOOPYpANTZ"]

I could give a crap less about pretentious ephemeral nonsense like Green F*&^!& Day or My C^%&*#!^ Romance.

Is it just a juvenile wonton ignorance that makes these bands so popular?

Is there no accounting for for taste, style, or substance?!

htotheo

Hmm, OK, why are you even listening? Are you a lemming to popular/commercial culture?

rock music ain't dieing and it never will you jsut have to look in different places to find it.

why should you care what other bands think about bands you like, cause when you call other bands bad your doing the same thing as other people. plus those bands are really bad can't stand em. whats with the diss to greenday their old stuff is king.htotheo

The "bands" I quoted aren't "bands" at all, and this is precisely my problem. The fundamental problem I have with "other people" (youth) is that they inadvertently "latch-on" to iconoclastic rubbish to "get them through" penultimate periods in the defining stages in their lives, and these icons with which they latch on to are fundamentally CRAP!!! Unfortunately they are most often too juvenile to realise it. In time they will grow up (as I hope you will) and interpret music in an entirely different light- for what it is and not for what juvenile "douchebag" wants you to see it as, and certainly not for the record sales it will bring them.

I despise modern rock/pop/soul/rap for the commercial and arrogant pretentious element it induces on what music is and should be. We DON'T listen to music for the sake of idol worship or capitolism, or because some clown dropped an f-bomb or a primative 5th-note powerchord, it is because we appreciate what they have contributed to the music scene without care for pretense or megalomania...

[QUOTE="htotheo"]why should you care what other bands think about bands you like, cause when you call other bands bad your doing the same thing as other people. plus those bands are really bad can't stand em. whats with the diss to greenday their old stuff is king.pOOPYpANTZ

The "bands" I quoted aren't "bands" at all, and this is precisely my problem. The fundamental problem I have with "other people" (youth) is that they inadvertently "latch-on" to iconoclastic rubbish to "get them through" penultimate periods in the defining stages in their lives, and these icons with which they latch on to are fundamentally CRAP!!! Unfortunately they are most often too juvenile to realise it. In time they will grow up (as I hope you will) and interpret music in an entirely different light- for what it is and not for what juvenile "douchebag" wants you to see it as, and certainly not for the record sales it will bring them.

I despise modern rock/pop/soul/rap for the commercial and arrogant pretentious element it induces on what music is and should be. We DON'T listen to music for the sake of idol worship or capitolism, or because some clown dropped an f-bomb or a primative 5th-note powerchord, it is because we appreciate what they have contributed to the music scene without care for pretense or megalomania...

people musical interpretation can differ from different people as it is an art which means how ever shallow you think something is there may be an underlining meaning. Why don't you give me a couple of bands you like and we'll see how great your tatse is and if it isn't garbage. by despinsing all forms of modern music you are generalizing, while i don't enjoy msot music on the radio i enjoy music which has been made in this century without having to look back to the 80s and 90s to see what "real music"was like.

who do you say latches onto these bands because alot of people do but again generalizing. not all bands think how you think they do, jsut because they sign with a major label doesn't mean they have sold out.

i feel bad for you because you have closed up so much msuic to you because of your narrow minded views.

Rock music is dieing, and its thanks to this generation.mexicangordo

The rock on the radio sucks ass = all rock music this generation must be terrible, mentality? *sigh*

[QUOTE="pOOPYpANTZ"]

[QUOTE="htotheo"]why should you care what other bands think about bands you like, cause when you call other bands bad your doing the same thing as other people. plus those bands are really bad can't stand em. whats with the diss to greenday their old stuff is king.htotheo

The "bands" I quoted aren't "bands" at all, and this is precisely my problem. The fundamental problem I have with "other people" (youth) is that they inadvertently "latch-on" to iconoclastic rubbish to "get them through" penultimate periods in the defining stages in their lives, and these icons with which they latch on to are fundamentally CRAP!!! Unfortunately they are most often too juvenile to realise it. In time they will grow up (as I hope you will) and interpret music in an entirely different light- for what it is and not for what juvenile "douchebag" wants you to see it as, and certainly not for the record sales it will bring them.

I despise modern rock/pop/soul/rap for the commercial and arrogant pretentious element it induces on what music is and should be. We DON'T listen to music for the sake of idol worship or capitolism, or because some clown dropped an f-bomb or a primative 5th-note powerchord, it is because we appreciate what they have contributed to the music scene without care for pretense or megalomania...

people musical interpretation can differ from different people as it is an art which means how ever shallow you think something is there may be an underlining meaning. Why don't you give me a couple of bands you like and we'll see how great your tatse is and if it isn't garbage. by despinsing all forms of modern music you are generalizing, while i don't enjoy msot music on the radio i enjoy music which has been made in this century without having to look back to the 80s and 90s to see what "real music"was like.

who do you say latches onto these bands because alot of people do but again generalizing. not all bands think how you think they do, jsut because they sign with a major label doesn't mean they have sold out.

i feel bad for you because you have closed up so much msuic to you because of your narrow minded views.

These days I mostly only listen to what would be called "world music", "ECM artists", and "classical"...uh, classical...simply because I am absolutely sick of pretentuous pri&ks and their commercially endorsed c*ck rock sensibiltiies.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Rock music is dieing, and its thanks to this generation._Tobli_

The rock on the radio sucks ass = all rock music this generation must be terrible, mentality? *sigh*

again very shelterd of what music has to offer here is a few bands which you would probably classify as commercial crap but have helped creat interesting and good music.

Modest Mouse, The Pixies, Ghostface killa, Smashing pumpkins, Motion city soundtrack, Bloc party, Suburban legends.

this is jsut a small taste of mostly really good music from Alternative, grundge, indie, ska, hip hop. music doesn't always have to be deep and meaningful all the time and is open to interpratation. Just because music can appeal to a large audience doesn't mean it is commercial crap.

O boy hear comes another one. I dont think i ever said rock music is dead but there's no denying that its dieing. I mean when you have to look for a decent, at least a decent band, that doesnt mean that its dieing to anyone els?. When's the last time anyone has heard of a rock album that was absolutly fantastic and thats from this generation. I can easily say that there hasn't been many. If you wanna see things the way they are then thats great but in reality rock is going down hill.mexicangordo

All the rock albums i consider to be fantastic were relesed after 1999. I don't consider it to be bad thing that there is so much sub genre variety that only a fraction can be displayed for the mainstream.

I just don't f&^#ing care anymore for that kind of thing. Maybe I'm groing up-I don't know...

I would rather just listen to music unadulterated with no bogus attitude!

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] O boy hear comes another one. I dont think i ever said rock music is dead but there's no denying that its dieing. I mean when you have to look for a decent, at least a decent band, that doesnt mean that its dieing to anyone els?. When's the last time anyone has heard of a rock album that was absolutly fantastic and thats from this generation. I can easily say that there hasn't been many. If you wanna see things the way they are then thats great but in reality rock is going down hill._Tobli_

All the rock albums i consider to be fantastic were relesed after 1999. I don't consider it to be bad thing that there is so much sub genre variety that only a fraction can be displayed for the mainstream.

I just don't f&^#ing care anymore for that kind of thing. Maybe I'm groing up-I don't know...

I would rather just listen to music unadulterated with no bogus attitude!

pOOPYpANTZ

then jsut say they don't call out good msuic and say its crap if you dislike lyrics for one and attitude because to me a band has to have an angle or some attitude or else it jsut isnt worth listening to.

[QUOTE="pOOPYpANTZ"]

I just don't f&^#ing care anymore for that kind of thing. Maybe I'm groing up-I don't know...

I would rather just listen to music unadulterated with no bogus attitude!

htotheo

then jsut say they don't call out good msuic and say its crap if you dislike lyrics for one and attitude because to me a band has to have an angle or some attitude or else it jsut isnt worth listening to.

I'll quote what you said- your'e on the right track...g'night

rock music has become an emotionless outlet of robots who care nothing about the music they write, and thats if they write any at all.mexicangordo

Uhm....Wow :|

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] rock music has become an emotionless outlet of robots who care nothing about the music they write, and thats if they write any at all._Tobli_

Uhm....Wow :|

[QUOTE="_Tobli_"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] rock music has become an emotionless outlet of robots who care nothing about the music they write, and thats if they write any at all.mexicangordo

Uhm....Wow :|

[QUOTE="_Tobli_"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Rock music is dieing, and its thanks to this generation.mexicangordo

The rock on the radio sucks ass = all rock music this generation must be terrible, mentality? *sigh*

If rock/metal is dieing then what's growing? Rap or techno? I don't think so.

If every band in the world would use those same "listenable" riffs and same precise rhythms then the world of music would be very boring.