muslim-american cop kills unarmed Christian black man

this wasn't justify at all, he died because of his race and religion.

Corey Jones had just played a gig and was heading home early Sunday when his car broke down. He called his big brother C.J., who offered to come get him only to have Corey tell him he wanted to stay with the car "because I have to perform at church with the choir the next morning," according to Crump.

Around 3 a.m., Palm Beach Gardens police Officer Nouman Raja pulled up to check out what he thought was an abandoned car. Raja was on duty but was wearing civilian clothing and driving an unmarked car, police Chief Stephen Stepp told reporters earlier this week.

"As the officer exited his vehicle, he was suddenly confronted by an armed subject," Stepp said. "As a result of the confrontation, the officer discharged his firearm, resulting in the death of Mr. Corey Jones."

Yet Jones' family has a hard time believing this is exactly what happened, noting that Raja is the only one alive who can tell his side of the story. Jones' father, Clinton Jones Sr., says he taught his children "to be respectable and to respect the law."

And his brother C.J., or Clinton Jones Jr., said the kind, happy Corey Jones he knew wouldn't knowingly challenge a police officer with a gun.

"We know that he would not ever, ever, ever, ever, ever pull a gun on a police (officer). Never," Clinton Jones Jr. said. "This is not like him, and we need answers."

A source close to the investigation told CNN on condition of anonymity Wednesday that investigators think the shooting stemmed from Jones and Raja misidentifying each other. Raja felt he had to check the car because burglars had parked near the ramp where Jones' vehicle was, the source said.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/22/us/florida-officer-corey-jones-shooting/

Trying too hard bruh

Another Cop bashing media as usual when we don't know the full story of this situation.

Not enough information here.

I thought it was another " religion of peace " thread.

The link specifically says jones was armed and that his brother believes race had nothing to do with it. Things aren't bad enough for you? You have to race bait it up even when family members don't believe it was race? What kind of horrible person pulls that bush league shit?

Anyway if he didn't ident himself as a cop I would have probably been killed in the same sitch because I would have drawn on an unknown armed assailant.

Muslim-American? lol!

That must mean I'm a Jedi-American?

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

I would echo what most is saying, there's not sufficient information about the case. Any discussion about guilt is decidedly premature. Also the linked article mentioned race/religion doesn't seem to be a contributing factor here.

click bait

I might be naive, but what's with the labels? Isn't "cop shoots man" enough?

19 year old me would disagree with you, but as I've grown older I've met Muslim-Americans and while they are nice people, their religion comes before sense (not just country). Fortunately they were not the fundamentalist we've been brainwashed to think all muslims are; believe it or not, most Muslims are moderate. But they do put their religion as a priority.

The guy was armed.

No sympathy here.

And no need to bring race and religion into it. The reason the guy got shot was because he was stupid and probably didn't do what the cop told him.

The cop was probably trying to impose Sharia on the guy too.

Although there isn't much information to go around, your post reeks of stupidity. First, he was legally armed (because the second amendment extends to everyone, not just your typical white patriot whatever) and second, there may have been a case of mis-identification. While after the fact, the shooter was indeed a plains-cloth officer, he could have been a fake cop or an actual burglar, and that the officer may not have offered identification.

Seriously learn to read.

@mrbojangles25: its not

but they were not aware of each other's religion. Hell, one quarter of American muslims are black, doesn't make sense for a muslim cop to shoot a black man who might share his religion, and the thread title implies that this person was shot because of either race and/or religion.

A more accurate title would be "cop shoots armed man"

exactly. i feel like they needed labels to make news so they chose arbitrary ones. next up, blue eyed cop beats brown haired man.

Wait wait, hold up.

Did none of you read the article? Nowhere in the report did it ever mention the cop being Muslim.

Wow, OT is rich! You guys just raciallyprofiled a cop based on his skin tone and name. You literally began assumptions and judged a person based on his name and skin color.

Newsflash: Nouman K. Raja is not necessarily a Muslim name. It just implies he's (possibly) from the northern regions of South Asia.

This is some serious ignorant shit.

Sharia law now in effect. :P

TC went full retard on this one lol

The only insight we have on this incident is the cop's testimony; I doubt he declared killing the man for being a black christian. Even if we were to allow ourselves the tenuous conjecture, we might be justified in invoking the race card, as race is readily discernible. But unless the cop is a psychic, I can't see how the Christianity of the man and his church activities played a role in his death.

From the available details, it's likely that the man pulled a gun on the officer who, for some goddamn reason, was in civilian clothes riding an unmarked car. This is yet another potential incident where a gun didn't do a good guy any good.

But on a slightly different note, why does it seem that cops in the U.S shoot to kill? It's not hard to shoot someone with the intention to incapacitate him.

As opposed to Christians or Jews who put the state before their religion? only bigotry would single out Muslims in this regard. The irony is that there's ample evidence of christian Americans having their religion override the state, whereas a Muslim analogue is nonexistent.

Are there such cases? I don't pay much attention as nobody takes Christians seriously (they get ripped apart all the time) and Jews are becoming more and more of a joke as well with shit like what Netanyahu has been saying, whereas Muslims know how to get my attention. I suppose I earned my bigotry by spending 6 years in a 99.99% Muslim nation and got to see first hand the fucked up horror that Islam can be. Needless to say, it's not like Islam isn't riddled with bigots itself. I mean, you see it right here in OT. Heck, if I recall correctly, you yourself are a bigot.

Muslim-American just means he's from Muslim.

@mrbojangles25: he was shot because he was black, this incident happen in florida. florida is well known to having the most racist cops http://www.mediaite.com/online/florida-cops-fired-for-this-racist-video-and-texts-about-killing-black-people/

What nation is that, if I may ask?

The Muslim variant of America. The land of fwee.

RIght, but this is the US, and we are "a Christian nation" so we are all on the same page *obvious sarcasm*

Sorry for singling out; I don't really approve of any religion, it's just Islam was relevant, so I singled it out in this specific example. But you are right; Christians do tend to have an agenda in this country (usually the GOP's agenda, which is very un-Christian despite claiming to be so).

I guess what I am trying to say is...it's all bullshit?

Well that deteriorated quickly.

Going past your erratic affront, a profusion of evidence of both Christians and Jews supplanting the state with their creeds exists. In the case of Christianity, it goes so far as to defy the state's constitution and the judiciary; so I'm not going to bother and cite the small-fries of abortion clinics intimidation and bombings, divesting homosexuals of their civil rights, dictating what goes into school curricula, etc.

Kim Davis, an elected official, recently decided it's O.K to give the finger to SCOTUS and refused to uphold the court's ruling on SSM. She remained defiant despite repeated appeals and warnings from the court and the polity. The conservative base flocked to show solidarity with her, and she continues to bask in impunity. In the same vein, Mike Huchabee has been on a rampage of demanding special rights and protections for Christians and Christian institutions in the country. If you don't take Christians seriously, you'd be well-advised to reconsider, as they seem to have the power to defy the judiciary and render constitutionality a farce.

As for Jews, the Hasidic communities in the U.S are home for appalling crimes of extreme misogyny, sexual assaults, and child molestation, yet they seem to have some sort of a special protection. If we were to take the discussion to Israel, the pool of such cases is infinite. Haredi men are exempted from military service and lead a life of idleness, yet they're entitled to generous welfare privileges and ever-growing funding for their religious schools. Not to mention their disregard of the law in how they enforce "chastity" in their neighborhoods.

Let's turn a blind eye to what amply exists and fear-monger about what's yet to happen, so long as it contributes to the demonization of Muslims.

I extended you the benefit of the doubt anyway; so no harm done.

You're free to believe it's all bullshit, but in the context of this discussion, Islam is the sole guiltless party, which makes it truly bigoted and dishonest to single it out of the lot.

saudi failrabia

Acknowledged.

Yeah, this is how I know you're full of horseshit.

Saudi Arabia and most gulf countries are notorious for enclosing their foreigners in western compounds, where they live a privileged, secluded, western life, far away from the general population.

So unless you're from some dirtbag country with a piss-poor economy where your gov isn't providing for you, chances are, you didn't see shit and led a pretty affluent and luxurious lifestyle there.

If anything, you're a hypocrite for championing outright bigotry, whilst flocking away to repressive countries in order to empower them and make use of their tax-free salaries.

>Muslim American

Cute. Incredibly adorable, in fact. Remarkably, I spent 4 of those 6 years living outside those "Western compounds, where they live a privileged, secluded, western life, far away from the general population." Even if I had not, do you, for one gosh darn second, think I never ventured outside, travelled, and saw this vile nation for what it really is? Think just for one second, will you? Not only was there shit to see, but to hear as well, especially from the diplomatic connections which involved plenty of interaction with saudis (they love their alcohol, those hypocritical pigs). Unfortunately for myself, I lived there against my will due to my father's job at the time (don't worry, his salary was taxed, so there goes another one of your points down the drain), and I was ignorant of saudi arabia and many things Muslim at the time (last time I was in saudi was 7 or so years ago so your "whilst" is irrelevant here i.e. no hypocrisy to be had) but worry not, I shall never return to that cesspool of a nation. There is no need to anyway. Even years later, you get plenty of news about terrible things happening in saudi arabia, so it's not like I need any first hand experience anymore. Get a clue and stop making assumptions, for they make an ass out of primarily you.

I think what's really adorable about this whole thing, is how you assumed your anecdotal "first-hand" leverage won't go unquestioned on an off-topic forum of a gaming website, and got really, really, really defensive about it once you got called out.

No, I don't think you'd venture outside enough to form a well-grounded opinion, especially since I know for a fact, how minimal it is to interact with local Saudis.

1- You can't drive/bike around without a driver's license, and taking a taxi is always discouraged by western embassies as they don't constitute a safe medium for so called "travels", so don't expect to walk out of the compound inside a taxi. (source: http://www.rt.gov.sa/files/rt_policy.pdf)

2- You can't enter or leave western compounds without giving proper documentation on the reasons of your leave and entry, so on the off chance that you did provide a legal means to drive and/or cruise around, you'd be short-pressed by security forces unwilling to make you travel on your own or with friends for little reason. (source: http://www.fsf.gov.sa/pagedetails.aspx?pageid=3 )

3- Saudi Arabia is a tax-free country, so anyone working here would not be subjected to taxes. That is, unless, your father was a governmental official. (source: https://dzit.gov.sa/brief-about-dzit)

Vile as it may be, you saw nothing for yourself. Your formed opinion is no different from someone reading up on the kingdom in an American newspaper, it's neither original nor new. Your interaction was minimal, and your anecdotes are doubtful at best. Even by your own admission, you said your first-hand experience is nothing that a newspaper can't write about.

That's all I'm saying. Hating Islam whilst putting Saudi Arabia as its poster-boy is nothing new, so don't pass yourself as a special snowflake with a unique world-view. I'm not making an ass out of myself, because I'm not filled with hate, like you. I'm not a proud self-proclaimed bigot, like you. I try to find good in all people.

Actually, this a problem with OT in general, everybody thinks they're unique somehow, and that their opinion holds any real weight or value outside this dying board.

For people arguing here:

So, go out, and do something positive and meaningful with your life!

Edit: nvm, I just realized you're not from the west. Or, at least, from some country that can't afford such exclusive compounds. Given that even Lebanese citizens can afford them (e.g Saudi Oger), you're probably just bitter with your experience.

@iloveatlus: Haha you tried too hard man, Muslim-American? Lmaoo

Anecdotal? Yes. Just reporting on how things work in saudi arabia, one of the most conservative Islamic nations there is. News reports back it up as well. In addition, if super defensive means discrediting your points, then sure. #1 is correct, #2 I did not experience. Left Al Yamama in riyadh all the time to pick up KFC and McDonald's, or go out to dine, avoiding prayer time that shut down everything for 30 minutes 5 times a day. People are not shut off from the damn city and are not prisoners of their home, whether it's in a compound or not. If you haven't lived there, don't talk out of your ass.

Your attempt to discredit my 6 years in saudi arabia, living in jeddah, riyadh, and travelling around (avoiding mecca of course) is futile. Face it, saudi arabia is a country stuck in the dark ages, and it's full of hatred for homosexuals, Jews, and more. So much bigotry that it makes me look innocent. That is the joke after all. Growing up in such a toxic, bigotry ridden environment made me loathe it to its very core. Additionally, we could afford the British Continental School of Jeddah and the American International School of Riyadh just fine, thank you very much.

Again, with the assumptions. Like I said, cute. Mafi mushkallah, the world sees saudi arabia for what it really is. A joke country. I am just backing that notion up with my anecdotal experience.

that cop racially profiled a black man and then murdered him