my girlfriend and i went to subway, we seen the worst thing ever along the way.

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#101 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

...its legal

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but you need permits to assemble anyway.

small group of protester that are only planning to do it for a few hours will not really need one, it is the large protests that need to be taken care of.
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#102 dackchaar
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]I don't see a problem with it personally. So many people think only a clump of cells are being aborted, that "fact" is spread everywhere, but the fact that what's being killed, looks like a baby and has every living aspect of a child cannot be spread than the other side is taking away freedom of speech to keep people in favor of abortion. Vfanek
You're saying that having dead babies pictured on your van isn't much of a problem?

It's not a baby, it's just a clump of cells, remember?
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#103 dlp21
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I don't think this is covered under the first amendment, it is disturbing the peace, with the potential to incite riots.
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#104 Napster06
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As much as someone can be given freedom of speech, I don't think it should be pushed into creating fear and possibly hatred.
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#105 sparkypants
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As much as someone can be given freedom of speech, I don't think it should be pushed into creating fear and possibly hatred.Napster06
fear of what?
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#106 Invisible_Kid2
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[QUOTE="Napster06"]As much as someone can be given freedom of speech, I don't think it should be pushed into creating fear and possibly hatred.sparkypants
fear of what?

a fear of death through abortion, or the fear of going to hell for not supporting life over choice. not to mention the associated fear of rejection of others for having an abortion.
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#107 TAKE_IT_BACK
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Ugh. People are so stupidly radical sometimes.

For instance, last Christmas I was driving to my uncles with my folks and we saw a van similar to what you posted next to a house, with people standing around and yelling at the guy in the house. Apparently he was a doctor who sometimes preformed abortions, so they felt it necessary to ruin his Christmas.  

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#108 hoola
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I'm fine with it..It seemed disgusting but obviously she got her point across.
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#109 ChrisSpartan117
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="Vfanek"] You're saying that having dead babies pictured on your van isn't much of a problem?Invisible_Kid2

The lie of it's only a clump of cells has been spread for far to long, and if this is what is takes to get it through people's thick skulls than sure let her do it..

 i've always viewed it as aborting a fetus. or like a baby cat/dog/mouse. just throwin that out there. i'd imagine that women get abortions before being 4+ months pregnant, but im no expert.

no the old lady wasnt hot

and yes we still went to subway. we didnt stay there. we brought it home. my girlfriend almost threw up when i said "abortion van" about 10 mins after we ate.

I've been hearing you can have an abortion at all stages of pregnancy... But it makes me sick hearing about that van story. In fact, it's one of those moments where I wish life was like the Burnout series, where I could ram vans like that to unrealistic distances.
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#110 vidplayer8
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I think that is just sick.

Whether I am pro-choice, or pro-life. I don't think someone should be having those kinds of images around the general public.

I for one would not want my kids to see something like that. 

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#111 Invisible_Kid2
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the whole thing is disturbing. they weren't small pictures either. they were literally theater size pictures and in full blown color. it makes me wonder how that woman can park her van at night wherever she may live and have a good nights sleep knowing there is something that gruesome parked out in her driveway.
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#112 rascoqaz
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I've seen something similar walking down the street people protesting abortion they had there signs with pictures of fetuses and stuff.
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#113 hamstergeddon
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yay grammar But seriously, I think that's disgusting. Attention wh0res and bitter losers spreading fear and superstition....
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#114 Invisible_Kid2
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but this was on a moving vehicle! this was causing a distraction to the public. the speed limit in which the area was that we were going to drive through was only 35. so everyone had a chance to see it from every stop light and stop sign. not to mention she drove right past a cassano's, a hardees, and a mom and pop resturaunt, plus a wendy's and a dairy queen.
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#115 omfg_its_dally
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Sounds a little too extreme to be on a car and it could cause an accident somehow, but it is her right to look ridiculous.
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#116 Greatgone12
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I'm fine with it..It seemed disgusting but obviously she got her point across.hoola
Yes, just like terrorists kill people to get their point across. Not entirely the same thing, but I'm not posting a picture of a dead baby to get my point across, so it can't be helped.
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#117 Invisible_Kid2
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yeah but if she wants to get her point across there are other methods of doing it. this is just an example. but what if someone just miscarried and had to see those horrific pictures posted yes i know it's her choice to look at it or not but when your just looking at general traffic it does catch your eye. that's like if there was a train or car wreck you just can't help but look.
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#118 LoG-Sacrament
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what did you get at subway?

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#119 Invisible_Kid2
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it doesn't matter what we got at subway.
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#120 senses_blank
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yeah old people take abortion too seriously

The world is over populated as is and if a person is to even consider having an abortion, they probably wouldnt be a good parent or able to support a kid

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#121 Iconic_D
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we seen some old lady who was driving a van. on the outside of the van was pictures of aborted babies. on the side was a fetus' head being held up by forceps (just the head. no body.). simular images were covering the van. on the back it said "obamas option". this thread isnt a debate of pro choice/life/obama/mccain, but rather is it right for somone to put those images on thier vehicle. Invisible_Kid2
I really hope that lady get's arrested. Thats going a little too far.
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#122 CleanPlayer
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That's really disturbing, I would've covered my eyes.
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#123 JCblueside
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You should have gotten its license plate number and reported it to the Police.
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#124 iam2green
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thats funny.
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#125 Mr_Cumberdale
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Wow that's a unique way of getting attention. What does 'forceps' mean? :(
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#126 VirtuaCast
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That's way to extreme (yuck) but so is using abortion as a form of birth control.
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#127 WestSideAzn
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Freedom of speech goes too far sometimes. Hasn't anybody ever heard of "your rights end where my nose begins"
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#128 BohemianAndy
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[QUOTE="Invisible_Kid2"]we seen some old lady who was driving a van. on the outside of the van was pictures of aborted babies. on the side was a fetus' head being held up by forceps (just the head. no body.). simular images were covering the van. on the back it said "obamas option". this thread isnt a debate of pro choice/life/obama/mccain, but rather is it right for somone to put those images on thier vehicle. EMOEVOLUTION
They have the right to do this. But I think it plays on the fear side of influence, rather than the logical.

Totally tru that it plays on fear ;)

I however don't agree that such images should be allowed like that....

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#129 ReverseCycology
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In a way I'm numbed from images like those. 

 

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#130 hell_blazer899
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whoa. shows how disorganized american is.
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#131 jmg128thinfrgt
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Just another uptight hardcore bible pusher trying to force their views upon the rest of the world : )
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#132 th_0_mm
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First of all i belive that abortion is completely discusting.. i mean sure women have rights.... but unborn babies do too.

i mean who can say "ok the baby is this old now its a human.

i belive a baby is humant the moment the egg and sperm connect. 

think of it this way, the terminator movies described how a robot went back in time to kill a woman and by proxy killing her baby... i belive (not in future robots)

that a sperm and an egg is a definite baby because without intervention thats what a baby will become.. u cant give a pregnant women flour and expect her to deliver a cake.

i also think the old woman was a weirdo and what she did was horrible. she shouldnt have done it. but think this.. if those pics were just a mix of chemicals and cells.. why should they be disturbing? un less of course they a twisted images of what an unborn child looks like.

i think she was more like a stupid wacko.... lol i woulndt want her at the drive-throough

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#133 BobRea
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I would have laughed if I saw it. I'm laughing thinking about the fetus van. :lol:
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#134 BobRea
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First of all i belive that abortion is completely discusting.. i mean sure women have rights.... but unborn babies do too.

i mean who can say "ok the baby is this old now its a human.

i belive a baby is humant the moment the egg and sperm connect. 

think of it this way, the terminator movies described how a robot went back in time to kill a woman and by proxy killing her baby... i belive (not in future robots)

that a sperm and an egg is a definite baby because without intervention thats what a baby will become.. u cant give a pregnant women flour and expect her to deliver a cake.

i also think the old woman was a weirdo and what she did was horrible. she shouldnt have done it. but think this.. if those pics were just a mix of chemicals and cells.. why should they be disturbing? un less of course they a twisted images of what an unborn child looks like.

i think she was more like a stupid wacko.... lol i woulndt want her at the drive-throough

th_0_mm
You can have all the beliefs you want but there is no way to prove or disprove when a baby is alive. This is why abortion is such a touchy subject.
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#135 higgydiggy
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atleast you got some subway afterwards.
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#136 jimmyjammer69
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I remember a government anti-smoking campaign a while back which showed photos of cancerous lungs and throats. Is this really so different?
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#137 IceAxe18
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I see protesters do this kinda stuff off and on in my area, but with posters though.
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#138 Paladin_King
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honestly, with those images, is she really trying to make people say "oooh that poor fetus/developing infant!" or is she rather going for the sheer gross-out/gore factor, to repulse people and make them think "oh my god, that's disgusting! the procedure of abortion is so gross!" I'm betting on the latter, given the disturbing nature of the pictures. So why don't I plaster images of all manner of operations on my car? I could have pictures of limb amputations, cracked open chests, opened up skulls, and any manner of "operation gore." I guess we should ban all of these life-saving/acceptable surgeries as well based on their gross-out factor then. Then again, I do realize that I'm arguing logic with an undoubtedly unstable evangelical nut who's plastered images of dead fetuses all over her vehicle.
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#139 tocklestein2005
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I think people who do that should be dragged from their vehicles and beaten severely about the head and neck.
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#140 comp_atkins
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crossed the line of taste maybe.. but there's nothing legally wrong with it i suppose.
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#141 Paladin_King
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I think people who do that should be dragged from their vehicles and beaten severely about the head and neck. tocklestein2005
and then someone can post pictures of their bloodied up face and broken body all over their van with words proclaiming that "beating people up is wrong!"
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#142 EwanMac
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We SAW the worst thing ever along the way. We SAW. Not seen. Saw.
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#143 sparkypants
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We SAW the worst thing ever along the way. We SAW. Not seen. Saw.EwanMac
yeah looking back on it...this is a more important issue to address.
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#144 Invisible_Kid2
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personally i think grammar has NOTHING not anything but NOTHING to do with the matter at hand!!
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#145 glenn2709
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If only the people in my country would dare to so such a thing I would be amaze :P
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#146 super_mario_128
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Yes they have a right to do that. If abortion is legal, then it's hypocritical to censor images of it.
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#147 Animal-Mother
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I Saw 2 guys wanking each other off in subway before
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#148 freshgman
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extremely unecessary
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#149 biggest_loser
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You needed an RPG!!
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#150 mlbslugger86
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ain't that something..but sadly there nothing you can do legally..of course you could of driven her off a bridge like someone suggested...