My theory on why people belive in the Illuminati

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#51 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

Couldn't jay-z just know about it have done research on illuminati and free masons and intentinoaly put their symbols in his songs and videos so people belive he is to generate buzz about him and just give him free advertising. Like all those youtube videos with over a million views, people who don't even listen to his music probley watches it hence giving him free advertising.

That might be understandable if he was an upcoming artist using a gommick like that for attention, but Jay-Z is a household name so it would make no sense for him to go through all that trouble of purposely putting out subliminal messages at this point in his career to generate a buzz and get free advertising.

Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction or conspiracy. He may be riding off the publicity and laughing at it by wearing crazy sweatshirts like the one in the pic for example but very few artists in the music biz shine in the mainstream off of pure talent nowadays.

The belief is the illuminati only select populer or influential figures to spread there symbols. Jay-Z has been using the pyramid as his roc synbol since his reasonable doubt album in 1996, way before he had any fame. In fact the name jay is short for jehova which means god. That's why he calls himself hova for his nickname

Hmmm.. clever marketing for the gullible, or sign of a trans-national multi-century conspiracy... HMMMMMMMMMmmmmmMMmmmm... :P
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#52 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

Im saying your condesceding as in you think you have a smart clear responce when you don't. Insight on making a thread? its a **** thread for a off topic forum

DarthTuna

Yes, and you're one of those few who fail even in that limited context... how funny is that?! :P

You don't have noting better to do then make responces to some dumb ass on threads on a gaming site? You probaly don't, but you probaly belive you do.

...And there go your English skills... :roll:

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#53 ThisIsTwoFace
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

Are you saying that he part of free masons? because from your quote it sounds like hes saying people want to belive he is and thats the reason why hes succesful, not that he is in it.

worlock77

No Im saying people can't handle him being successful and they assume that he has a secret force helping him.

Also, silly people cannot understand Jay Z's lyrics, he is of course the GOAT so its no surprise.

"B**** I said I was amazing, not that I'm a mason"

Did you say "goat"? The Illuminati worship Baphomet, as evil deity with the head of a goat. This proves that Jay Z is Illuminati!

GOAT = Greatest Of All Time.

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#54 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

That might be understandable if he was an upcoming artist using a gommick like that for attention, but Jay-Z is a household name so it would make no sense for him to go through all that trouble of purposely putting out subliminal messages at this point in his career to generate a buzz and get free advertising.

Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction or conspiracy. He may be riding off the publicity and laughing at it by wearing crazy sweatshirts like the one in the pic for example but very few artists in the music biz shine in the mainstream off of pure talent nowadays.

Frame_Dragger

The belief is the illuminati only select populer or influential figures to spread there symbols. Jay-Z has been using the pyramid as his roc synbol since his reasonable doubt album in 1996, way before he had any fame. In fact the name jay is short for jehova which means god. That's why he calls himself hova for his nickname

Hmmm.. clever marketing for the gullible, or sign of a trans-national multi-century conspiracy... HMMMMMMMMMmmmmmMMmmmm... :P

Jay-Z is great at marketing. Example, when he and his friends couldn't get signed they made their own record company and called it Rockefalla records which sound alot like Rockefeller. People see the name and assume it has something to do with John Rockerfeller so they pay instant attention as it stands out. It would be like if you today made a record comapny called Bill gate records or Steve job records

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#55 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

No Im saying people can't handle him being successful and they assume that he has a secret force helping him.

Also, silly people cannot understand Jay Z's lyrics, he is of course the GOAT so its no surprise.

"B**** I said I was amazing, not that I'm a mason"

ThisIsTwoFace

Did you say "goat"? The Illuminati worship Baphomet, as evil deity with the head of a goat. This proves that Jay Z is Illuminati!

GOAT = Greatest Of All Time.

Lies, damn lies.

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#56 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Did you say "goat"? The Illuminati worship Baphomet, as evil deity with the head of a goat. This proves that Jay Z is Illuminati!

GOAT = Greatest Of All Time.

Lies, damn lies.

I like your version more. Next up: ANUBIS!!!
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#57 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Yes, and you're one of those few who fail even in that limited context... how funny is that?! :PFrame_Dragger

You don't have noting better to do then make responces to some dumb ass on threads on a gaming site? You probaly don't, but you probaly belive you do.

...And there go your English skills... :roll:

grammer nazai hail za feurah .Im sorry i forgot to spell check and read the rough draft of my post. What i mean't to say if you belive im an ignorent dumb ass, why keep responding to my posts as your most likely have urgent important matters to attend to or atleast you belive you have more urgent matters to attend then to keep repsponding.

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#58 Victorious_Fize
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I don't know about Illuminati, but I definitely think there is Freemasonary.
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#59 ThisIsTwoFace
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Did you say "goat"? The Illuminati worship Baphomet, as evil deity with the head of a goat. This proves that Jay Z is Illuminati!

worlock77

GOAT = Greatest Of All Time.

Lies, damn lies.

G.O.A.T = Greatest Of All Time. Im sorry If this is something that you Illuminati nutheads don't want to hear but thats the truth.

LL Cool J even released an album called G.O.A.T (Greatest Of All Time).

You guys are doing exactly what Jay Z spoke about, can't handle someones success so you assume hes made a pact with the Devil or something..

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#60 Maniacc1
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You should try believing in a dictionary.
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#62 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

GOAT = Greatest Of All Time.

ThisIsTwoFace

Lies, damn lies.

G.O.A.T = Greatest Of All Time. Im sorry If this is something that you Illuminati nutheads don't want to hear but thats the truth.

LL Cool J even released an album called G.O.A.T (Greatest Of All Time).

You guys are doing exactly what Jay Z spoke about, can't handle someones success so you assume hes made a pact with the Devil or something..

I'm disappointed by your inability to detect sarcasm even when it's oozing from the screen.

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#63 Bucked20
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I don't know about Illuminati, but I definitely think there is Freemasonary.Victorious_Fize
Every city has a Freemason lodge they're normal people
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#64 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] ...And there go your English skills... :roll:

Frame_Dragger

grammer nazai hail za feurah .Im sorry i forgot to spell check and read the rough draft of my post. What i mean't to say if you belive im an ignorent dumb ass, why keep responding to my posts as your most likely have urgent important matters to attend to or atleast you belive you have more urgent matters to attend then to keep repsponding.

Wutz dis yuz tikkin bout mang? Hurr Hurr swagswag.

i speak germen you racist ****

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#65 worlock77
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I don't know about Illuminati, but I definitely think there is Freemasonary.Victorious_Fize

Well yeah, there's a Freemason lodge in damn near every town. It'd be a pretty bold defiance of reality to not think there is Freemasonry.

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#66 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]I don't know about Illuminati, but I definitely think there is Freemasonary.Bucked20
Every city has a Freemason lodge they're normal people

True... they're basicallly like the Rotary club. You'll find grander conspiracies in a nice NYC restaraunt or the green at Hilton Head.
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#67 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]I don't know about Illuminati, but I definitely think there is Freemasonary.Bucked20
Every city has a Freemason lodge they're normal people

Theres one by my school i walk past it in the mornings

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#69 Bucked20
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Didn't Jay get the Roc sign from Dallas Diamond Page,people be thinking he throwing up some devil sh*t lol
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Paranoids have all the facts.

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#72 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

i speak germen you racist ****

DarthTuna

Sie sind ein dummer Sau, du Arschloch Nazi. :P

Oh alright i guess its racist sterotype joke time. Judging by your picture,ごはんを炊く honda suzuki sony mishubishi and give the happy ending before godizlla come dropeshiroshima bomb

Oooohh so close, but no... I'm American. Still, you're cute when you try to be racist! For my part, I was kidding around... I didn't think you actually spoke German, nevermind actually ARE German. I mean, you DID lead with, "grammer nazai hail za feurah..." :P

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#73 ThisIsTwoFace
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Lol

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#74 ThisIsTwoFace
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In his defence, atleast Germany have their own language and didn't borrow theirs from another country (USA).

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#75 Necrifer
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Sie sind ein dummer Sau, du Arschloch Nazi. :P

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That's racist.

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#76 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Sie sind ein dummer Sau, du Arschloch Nazi. :PFrame_Dragger

Oh alright i guess its racist sterotype joke time. Judging by your picture,ごはんを炊く honda suzuki sony mishubishi and give the happy ending before godizlla come dropeshiroshima bomb

Oooohh so close, but no... I'm American. Still, you're cute when you try to be racist! For my part, I was kidding around... I didn't think you actually spoke German, nevermind actually ARE German. I mean, you DID lead with, "grammer nazai hail za feurah..." :P

cause you stated there goes your english for a post i made mind you on a thread on a gaming site where spelling is very crucial so i concluded you must be a grammer nazi if you went through that much effort to point out the errors. I can insert faces too.:P:P:P:P

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In his defence, atleast Germany have their own language and didn't borrow theirs from another country (USA).

ThisIsTwoFace

English and German pretty similar. Most languagesare related to another.

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#78 Frame_Dragger
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In his defence, atleast Germany have their own language and didn't borrow theirs from another country (USA).

ThisIsTwoFace
Germany doesn't need defending.. it's a fine country.... DarthTuna on the other hand, seems to speak about as much German as a rock. Still, it WAS cute when he slammed Japanese people because I have an anime character as an avatar. I mean, we all know that anime has 0 popularity outside of Japan. :D
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#79 ThisIsTwoFace
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To translate what Frame Dagger said (roughly) : You are a stupid pig, you Nazi a******

Reportable offence. :cool:

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#80 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]

[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

Oh alright i guess its racist sterotype joke time. Judging by your picture,ごはんを炊く honda suzuki sony mishubishi and give the happy ending before godizlla come dropeshiroshima bomb

Oooohh so close, but no... I'm American. Still, you're cute when you try to be racist! For my part, I was kidding around... I didn't think you actually spoke German, nevermind actually ARE German. I mean, you DID lead with, "grammer nazai hail za feurah..." :P

cause you stated there goes your english for a post i made mind you on a thread on a gaming site where spelling is very crucial so i concluded you must be a grammer nazi if you went through that much effort to point out the errors. I can insert faces too.:P:P:P:P

It took pretty minimal effort; I didn't point out your erros, just laughed at them. It seems that when you get a little hot under the collar your ability to type goes flying out of the window. Don't worry though, it's really the least of your shortcomings.!
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#81 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

To translate what Frame Dagger said (roughly) : You are a stupid pig, you Nazi a******

Reportable offence.

Once again, it was meant to be a humorous response to the CLEARLY not-German statement, "grammer nazai hail za feurah..." On the other hand, the Japan-bashing part, ending with mockery of the atomic bombings was actually an attempt at racism, period. Granted, I'm not Japanese, but it was pretty cruel to go there IMO.
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#82 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

In his defence, atleast Germany have their own language and didn't borrow theirs from another country (USA).

Frame_Dragger

Germany doesn't need defending.. it's a fine country.... DarthTuna on the other hand, seems to speak about as much German as a rock. Still, it WAS cute when he slammed Japanese people because I have an anime character as an avatar. I mean, we all know that anime has 0 popularity outside of Japan. :D

Im ignorent i love anime this is my favorite one-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VILgSsesD0

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#83 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

In his defence, atleast Germany have their own language and didn't borrow theirs from another country (USA).

Germany doesn't need defending.. it's a fine country.... DarthTuna on the other hand, seems to speak about as much German as a rock. Still, it WAS cute when he slammed Japanese people because I have an anime character as an avatar. I mean, we all know that anime has 0 popularity outside of Japan. :D

Im ignorent i love anime this is my favorite one-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VILgSsesD0

I'd go to that link, but I just don't care enough to waste the time. I'm sure it's something really funny/worthwhile/cutting/imbecilic. By the way, why DID you decide to cross one of the few lines left on GS and slam an entire nation? You're not actually German, as your original "german" language portion showed... so it seems like an extreme reaction.
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Im ignorent i love anime this is my favorite one-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VILgSsesD0

DarthTuna

omg, has anyone ever translated THOSE lyrics?

That's where the real racial slurs are.

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#85 coolbeans90
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No remotely competent organization of this nature would have Jay-Z.

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#86 Baconbits2004
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I'd go to that link, but I just don't care enough to waste the time. I'm sure it's something really funny/worthwhile/cutting/imbecilic. By the way, why DID you decide to cross one of the few lines left on GS and slam an entire nation? You're not actually German, as your original "german" language portion showed... so it seems like an extreme reaction.Frame_Dragger

It's lets fighting love from south park.

His favorite anime is made in america, the racist bastard.

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#87 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Germany doesn't need defending.. it's a fine country.... DarthTuna on the other hand, seems to speak about as much German as a rock. Still, it WAS cute when he slammed Japanese people because I have an anime character as an avatar. I mean, we all know that anime has 0 popularity outside of Japan. :DFrame_Dragger

Im ignorent i love anime this is my favorite one-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VILgSsesD0

I'd go to that link, but I just don't care enough to waste the time. I'm sure it's something really funny/worthwhile/cutting/imbecilic. By the way, why DID you decide to cross one of the few lines left on GS and slam an entire nation? You're not actually German, as your original "german" language portion showed... so it seems like an extreme reaction.

You have no time to waste but you have to make another post. I was just making a racist joke

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#88 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]I'd go to that link, but I just don't care enough to waste the time. I'm sure it's something really funny/worthwhile/cutting/imbecilic. By the way, why DID you decide to cross one of the few lines left on GS and slam an entire nation? You're not actually German, as your original "german" language portion showed... so it seems like an extreme reaction.Baconbits2004

It's lets fighting love from south park.

His favorite anime is made in america, the racist bastard.

Oh, I have to say I loved that bit.... it was a pretty fun song. Kintama = "golden balls".. :P
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Because it's kinda fun and convinient to blame the disasters of the world to a secret society, not society itself

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The belief is the illuminati only select populer or influential figures to spread there symbols. Jay-Z has been using the pyramid as his roc synbol since his reasonable doubt album in 1996, way before he had any fame. In fact the name jay is short for jehova which means god. That's why he calls himself hova for his nickname

DarthTuna

Actually Jay-Z got his name from Jaz-O, the dude who 1st put him on back in the day.

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#92 ThisIsTwoFace
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

To translate what Frame Dagger said (roughly) : You are a stupid pig, you Nazi a******

Reportable offence.

Frame_Dragger

Once again, it was meant to be a humorous response to the CLEARLY not-German statement, "grammer nazai hail za feurah..." On the other hand, the Japan-bashing part, ending with mockery of the atomic bombings was actually an attempt at racism, period. Granted, I'm not Japanese, but it was pretty cruel to go there IMO.

Your comment was still racist. You cannot justify it, whether it was meant to be humourous or not doesn't matter, its still racist. You could possibly meet...

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#93 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="DarthTuna"]

The belief is the illuminati only select populer or influential figures to spread there symbols. Jay-Z has been using the pyramid as his roc synbol since his reasonable doubt album in 1996, way before he had any fame. In fact the name jay is short for jehova which means god. That's why he calls himself hova for his nickname

HipHopBeats

Actually Jay-Z got his name from Jaz-O, the dude who 1st put him on back in the day.

'

Ya i know but he also calls himself hova im pretty sure out of all the nick names to pick he chosed hova to make jayhova

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#94 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

To translate what Frame Dagger said (roughly) : You are a stupid pig, you Nazi a******

Reportable offence.

Once again, it was meant to be a humorous response to the CLEARLY not-German statement, "grammer nazai hail za feurah..." On the other hand, the Japan-bashing part, ending with mockery of the atomic bombings was actually an attempt at racism, period. Granted, I'm not Japanese, but it was pretty cruel to go there IMO.

Your comment was still racist. You cannot justify it, whether it was meant to be humourous or not doesn't matter, its still racist. You could possibly meet...

What exactly was racist about it? I called someone a nazi, who first called me... a nazi in fake-german. You're reaching, but it's a nice try. On the other hand, DarthTuna has said outright that he was making a racist joke. :roll:
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Once again, it was meant to be a humorous response to the CLEARLY not-German statement, "grammer nazai hail za feurah..." On the other hand, the Japan-bashing part, ending with mockery of the atomic bombings was actually an attempt at racism, period. Granted, I'm not Japanese, but it was pretty cruel to go there IMO.Frame_Dragger

Your comment was still racist. You cannot justify it, whether it was meant to be humourous or not doesn't matter, its still racist. You could possibly meet...

What exactly was racist about it? I called someone a nazi, who first called me... a nazi in fake-german. You're reaching, but it's a nice try. On the other hand, DarthTuna has said outright that he was making a racist joke. :roll:

yea we were joking. i just used the grammer nazi meme

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#96 ThisIsTwoFace
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Once again, it was meant to be a humorous response to the CLEARLY not-German statement, "grammer nazai hail za feurah..." On the other hand, the Japan-bashing part, ending with mockery of the atomic bombings was actually an attempt at racism, period. Granted, I'm not Japanese, but it was pretty cruel to go there IMO.Frame_Dragger

Your comment was still racist. You cannot justify it, whether it was meant to be humourous or not doesn't matter, its still racist. You could possibly meet...

What exactly was racist about it? I called someone a nazi, who first called me... a nazi in fake-german. You're reaching, but it's a nice try. On the other hand, DarthTuna has said outright that he was making a racist joke. :roll:

Admit it was racist someone else even pointed out that it was Racist.

I mean theres nothing wrong with calling someone a Nazi now is there? :roll:

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#97 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Your comment was still racist. You cannot justify it, whether it was meant to be humourous or not doesn't matter, its still racist. You could possibly meet...

What exactly was racist about it? I called someone a nazi, who first called me... a nazi in fake-german. You're reaching, but it's a nice try. On the other hand, DarthTuna has said outright that he was making a racist joke. :roll:

Admit it was racist someone else even pointed out that it was Racist.

I mean theres nothing wrong with calling someone a Nazi now is there? :roll:

It's insulting to call someone a nazi, but it's not racist. Still, it's interesting to see you try so hard to frame it in those terms when both people involved have explained that it's not. You seem to be missing the difference between saying that someone is, in partricular, a communist, vs. referring to all Russians as, "those communists". It's OK though, given time I'm sure you'll... understand... probably. Or not, I dont really care.
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#98 Baconbits2004
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Admit it was racist someone else even pointed out that it was Racist.

I mean theres nothing wrong with calling someone a Nazi now is there? :roll:

ThisIsTwoFace

I kind of have to agree that Frame was out of line.

Let's stop with the fùckin' stereotypes man.

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#99 DroidPhysX
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ITT, we see that people are getting butthurt over trivial things.

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#100 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Admit it was racist someone else even pointed out that it was Racist.

I mean theres nothing wrong with calling someone a Nazi now is there? :roll:

Baconbits2004

I kind of have to agree that Frame was out of line.

Let's stop with the fùckin' stereotypes man.

Stereotypes? He called someone (who previously said "hail our fuhrer) a Nazi. The person who Frame called a Nazi even admitted he was being racist.