NASA research suggests rapid climate change this century. Were gonna drown!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111208173647.htm

New research into Earth's paleoclimate history by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies director James E. Hansen suggests the potential for rapid climate changes this century, including multiple meters of sea level rise, if global warming is not abated.

"The paleoclimate record reveals a more sensitive climate than thought, even as of a few years ago. Limiting human-caused warming to 2 degrees is not sufficient," Hansen said. "It would be a prescription for disaster."

"Humans have overwhelmed the natural, slow changes that occur on geologic timescales," Hansen said.

Why does it seem that every year something like this gets said by a different source only for another source to come along and say something different? This has been going on since I was a kid in the 90s.

Really there isn't anything we can do about it short of nuking China, India, and any other southeast Asian country that industry is being built up in. So you can throw around all of the "solutions" across this board all you want, until you can convince China and the rest of those industrial countries to adapt some environmental laws, nothing is changing.

Taking cars and SUVs off the road because they cause to many greenhouse gasses is just silly. How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

These guys are starting to remind me of our government who constantly warns us about terrorism.

He suggests the potential for rapid climate change...Nothing to see here folks.

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Sounds like movie material to me.

Sounds like movie material to me.

Conno08

thank god i dont live on an island

Why does it seem that every year something like this gets said by a different source only for another source to come along and say something different? This has been going on since I was a kid in the 90s.

Really there isn't anything we can do about it short of nuking China, India, and any other southeast Asian country that industry is being built up in. So you can throw around all of the "solutions" across this board all you want, until you can convince China and the rest of those industrial countries to adapt some environmental laws, nothing is changing.

Taking cars and SUVs off the road because they cause to many greenhouse gasses is just silly. How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Wasdie

The people that come along and say different are usually funded by petrol companies, or, are politicians with no knowledge of science also funded by big business.

The people that come along and say different are usually funded by petrol companies, or, are politicians with no knowledge of science also funded by big business.

tenaka2

Not true at all. A lot of them are independent researchers.

A lot of the global warming activists get funded by groups who invest into green energies and whatnot. It's the same crap on both sides.

I'll believe my professors before I believe any of these other groups of people.

My professor was the department leader of geology and earth history and climatology. Him and the entire department basically said that climate change is happening and there is evidence to support that we are helping it along, but the effects are being blown wildly out of proportion just because it makes better news and is easier to sell to people.

It's the same on both sides. If you can't see this after 20 years of global warming activists constantly changing their own statistics and predictions year after year, I don't think there will be any convincing you. They went from the world being underwater as early as 2015 back in the 90s to now that it will take a century or more. It's pure hype. People know they can get attention from activist groups by making sweeping statements and extremely loose connections through studies, all of which are never totally replicated by other groups.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The people that come along and say different are usually funded by petrol companies, or, are politicians with no knowledge of science also funded by big business.

Wasdie

Not true at all. A lot of them are independent researchers.

A lot of the global warming activists get funded by groups who invest into green energies and whatnot. It's the same crap on both sides.

I'll believe my professors before I believe any of these other groups of people.

My professor was the department leader of geology and earth history and climatology. Him and the entire department basically said that climate change is happening and there is evidence to support that we are helping it along, but the effects are being blown wildly out of proportion just because it makes better news and is easier to sell to people.

It's the same on both sides. If you can't see this after 20 years of global warming activists constantly changing their own statistics and predictions year after year, I don't think there will be any convincing you. They went from the world being underwater as early as 2015 back in the 90s to now that it will take a century or more. It's pure hype. People know they can get attention from activist groups by making sweeping statements and extremely loose connections through studies, all of which are never totally replicated by other groups.

Could you name a few independent researchers that claim man made global warming doesnt exist?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The people that come along and say different are usually funded by petrol companies, or, are politicians with no knowledge of science also funded by big business.

tenaka2

Not true at all. A lot of them are independent researchers.

A lot of the global warming activists get funded by groups who invest into green energies and whatnot. It's the same crap on both sides.

I'll believe my professors before I believe any of these other groups of people.

My professor was the department leader of geology and earth history and climatology. Him and the entire department basically said that climate change is happening and there is evidence to support that we are helping it along, but the effects are being blown wildly out of proportion just because it makes better news and is easier to sell to people.

It's the same on both sides. If you can't see this after 20 years of global warming activists constantly changing their own statistics and predictions year after year, I don't think there will be any convincing you. They went from the world being underwater as early as 2015 back in the 90s to now that it will take a century or more. It's pure hype. People know they can get attention from activist groups by making sweeping statements and extremely loose connections through studies, all of which are never totally replicated by other groups.

Could you name a few independent researchers that claim man made global warming doesnt exist?

Nobody says it "doesn't exist" as much as they say the impacts and cycles are nothing like what some would have you believe. It's pretty much accepted in science that our climate changes. By what causes and by how much is what's up for debate.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Not true at all. A lot of them are independent researchers.

A lot of the global warming activists get funded by groups who invest into green energies and whatnot. It's the same crap on both sides.

I'll believe my professors before I believe any of these other groups of people.

My professor was the department leader of geology and earth history and climatology. Him and the entire department basically said that climate change is happening and there is evidence to support that we are helping it along, but the effects are being blown wildly out of proportion just because it makes better news and is easier to sell to people.

It's the same on both sides. If you can't see this after 20 years of global warming activists constantly changing their own statistics and predictions year after year, I don't think there will be any convincing you. They went from the world being underwater as early as 2015 back in the 90s to now that it will take a century or more. It's pure hype. People know they can get attention from activist groups by making sweeping statements and extremely loose connections through studies, all of which are never totally replicated by other groups.

Wasdie

Could you name a few independent researchers that claim man made global warming doesnt exist?

Nobody says it "doesn't exist" as much as they say the impacts and cycles are nothing like what some would have you believe. It's pretty much accepted in science that our climate changes. By what causes and by how much is what's up for debate.

Unfortunatly that is not the case. Scientists world wide agree that man made global warming is very real. Politicians and other groups (mainly in the states is must be said) claim that the world wide scientific community is wrong. They take this stance for both monetary and religions reasons. I can provide more detailed information if required, but a lot of people have already made up there minds on the subject based upon what politicians have told them.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Not true at all. A lot of them are independent researchers.

A lot of the global warming activists get funded by groups who invest into green energies and whatnot. It's the same crap on both sides.

I'll believe my professors before I believe any of these other groups of people.

My professor was the department leader of geology and earth history and climatology. Him and the entire department basically said that climate change is happening and there is evidence to support that we are helping it along, but the effects are being blown wildly out of proportion just because it makes better news and is easier to sell to people.

It's the same on both sides. If you can't see this after 20 years of global warming activists constantly changing their own statistics and predictions year after year, I don't think there will be any convincing you. They went from the world being underwater as early as 2015 back in the 90s to now that it will take a century or more. It's pure hype. People know they can get attention from activist groups by making sweeping statements and extremely loose connections through studies, all of which are never totally replicated by other groups.

Wasdie

Could you name a few independent researchers that claim man made global warming doesnt exist?

Nobody says it "doesn't exist" as much as they say the impacts and cycles are nothing like what some would have you believe. It's pretty much accepted in science that our climate changes. By what causes and by how much is what's up for debate.

Why does it seem that every year something like this gets said by a different source only for another source to come along and say something different? This has been going on since I was a kid in the 90s.

Really there isn't anything we can do about it short of nuking China, India, and any other southeast Asian country that industry is being built up in. So you can throw around all of the "solutions" across this board all you want, until you can convince China and the rest of those industrial countries to adapt some environmental laws, nothing is changing.

Taking cars and SUVs off the road because they cause to many greenhouse gasses is just silly. How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Wasdie

Unfortunatly that is not the case. Scientists world wide agree that man made global warming is very real. Politicians and other groups (mainly in the states is must be said) claim that the world wide scientific community is wrong. They take this stance for both monetary and religions reasons. I can provide more detailed information if required, but a lot of people have already made up there minds on the subject based upon what politicians have told them.

tenaka2

Did I not just say that scientists agree that climate change is happening and there is GOOD evidence to support that humans are likely the cause?

There are always scientists saying this and scientists saying the opposite. With climate change it seems there is more debate, but I can't even tell whether this is among climatologists or spindoctors or whatever.
From what I understand which isn't much cause everyone is saying something different, we understand hardly anything about our climate and certainly not enough to conclude causalities and predict the future.
I get the idea that climatologists don't know what they are talking about just yet and even if they do, it is unlikely that we will hear the truth.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Why does it seem that every year something like this gets said by a different source only for another source to come along and say something different? This has been going on since I was a kid in the 90s.

Really there isn't anything we can do about it short of nuking China, India, and any other southeast Asian country that industry is being built up in. So you can throw around all of the "solutions" across this board all you want, until you can convince China and the rest of those industrial countries to adapt some environmental laws, nothing is changing.

Taking cars and SUVs off the road because they cause to many greenhouse gasses is just silly. How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Human-after-all

They've been against it for 50 years thanks to that fear and the problem with nuclear waste.

So California has to deal with power problems becasue the environmentalists don't wnat nuclear power plants or any sort of coal/natural gas power plants. They want green energy which nobody can afford and doesn't work nearly was well.

Only thing that bothers me is the fact that and entire island is about to drop into the ocean, and when it does, it will send dozens of waves at supersonic speed towards the east coast of America.

Oh and did I say it could happen at any time?

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Why does it seem that every year something like this gets said by a different source only for another source to come along and say something different? This has been going on since I was a kid in the 90s.

Really there isn't anything we can do about it short of nuking China, India, and any other southeast Asian country that industry is being built up in. So you can throw around all of the "solutions" across this board all you want, until you can convince China and the rest of those industrial countries to adapt some environmental laws, nothing is changing.

Taking cars and SUVs off the road because they cause to many greenhouse gasses is just silly. How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Wasdie

They've been against it for 50 years thanks to that fear and the problem with nuclear waste.

So California has to deal with power problems becasue the environmentalists don't wnat nuclear power plants or any sort of coal/natural gas power plants. They want green energy which nobody can afford and doesn't work nearly was well.

Buildings top solar panels does help in green energy afterall .ycdeo

Why does it seem that every year something like this gets said by a different source only for another source to come along and say something different? This has been going on since I was a kid in the 90s.

Really there isn't anything we can do about it short of nuking China, India, and any other southeast Asian country that industry is being built up in. So you can throw around all of the "solutions" across this board all you want, until you can convince China and the rest of those industrial countries to adapt some environmental laws, nothing is changing.

Taking cars and SUVs off the road because they cause to many greenhouse gasses is just silly. How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Wasdie

How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Wasdie

Thanks, hippies.

How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

BranKetra

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

BranKetra

I have no idea. People freak out about nuclear waste (even though there is a great method to recycle it) and they freak out about a meltdown.

The odds of a meltdown are lower than the odds of you getting hit by a car while sitting in your living room.

I don't belive half the crap these scientists say. They can't even predict tomorrow's weather accurately let alone global climate for the next 20-50 years. I just let nature set its course. DevilMightCry

Haha. Global warming was the cause of huge snow storms in the eastern U.S. a couple years back. Or so says the global warming fanatics.

When are people going to wise up? Global warming is a money scam on a huge scale.

Haha. Global warming was the cause of huge snow storms in the eastern U.S. a couple years back. Or so says the global warming fanatics.

When are people going to wise up? Global warming is a money scam on a huge scale.

ristactionjakso

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

horgen123

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Wasdie

I have no idea. People freak out about nuclear waste (even though there is a great method to recycle it) and they freak out about a meltdown.

The odds of a meltdown are lower than the odds of you getting hit by a car while sitting in your living room.

Haha. Global warming was the cause of huge snow storms in the eastern U.S. a couple years back. Or so says the global warming fanatics.

When are people going to wise up? Global warming is a money scam on a huge scale.

ristactionjakso

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Nuclear reactors are serious business, bro.horgen123

i have no faith in the science community. They are always wrong and even when they are right they never agree so i have no idea to to belieave in.

Ocean front property in Ohio only helps me. However if our future is like the script of Waterworld then I say drop all our nukes before it does.CreasianDevaili

the fossil record shows an explosion of animal population then a climate change or disaster that wipes most of them out with climate change being the culprit the vast majority of the time.

rinse and repeat every few hundred million years or so.

our turn is coming.

it's not even debatable, just an inevitability.

I think I've heard this before. And global warming is true, but there's nothing we can do about it. It was shown that the last time that the greenhouse gases were this high was back in medival times. There was no crazy industrial revolution back then when they were burning coal in mass quantities for energy. There was a mini ice age, but if the earth decides that something is going to happen, then it is going to happen. There's nothing we can do to stop it.

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Ocean front property in Ohio only helps me. However if our future is like the script of Waterworld then I say drop all our nukes before it does.comp_atkins

Why does it seem that every year something like this gets said by a different source only for another source to come along and say something different? This has been going on since I was a kid in the 90s.

Really there isn't anything we can do about it short of nuking China, India, and any other southeast Asian country that industry is being built up in. So you can throw around all of the "solutions" across this board all you want, until you can convince China and the rest of those industrial countries to adapt some environmental laws, nothing is changing.

Taking cars and SUVs off the road because they cause to many greenhouse gasses is just silly. How about build new nuclear power plants? Oh wait, the hippies also have a problem with that. Well let's keep burning coal because you green energy solutions are extremely expensive and don't output nearly enough power.

Wasdie