Nate Silver: Same sex marriage opponents now in minority

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="mariomaster16"]

Again, insults and foul language are not necessary to present your opinion. If you want your argument to be considered an intelligent, civilzed statement, then make it in such a manner.

mariomaster16

So much for respect of others' opinions.

Seriously, that's all it takes: empathy. The ability to put oneself in others' shoes. One doesn't even need to be intelligent to have it.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] "I have no response, so I'll ignore it by making a faux plea for intelligence while still stating the exact same thing in the future." Nobody who contends that homosexuality is a choice has any place in demanding intelligence from anybody.GreySeal9

So much for respect of others' opinions.

Not all opinions are worthy of respect.

What sort of opinion would be worthy of respect, in your opinion?

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[QUOTE="mariomaster16"]

So much for respect of others' opinions.

mariomaster16

Not all opinions are worthy of respect.

What sort of opinion would be worthy of respect, in your opinion?

One that makes sense for starters.

I would post my opinion in this thread, but I feel Theo is already covering the topic pretty well.

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[QUOTE="mariomaster16"]

So much for respect of others' opinions.

mariomaster16

Not all opinions are worthy of respect.

What sort of opinion would be worthy of respect, in your opinion?

First, there is the fact that the brain structures of heterosexual and homosexual people of the same gender are fundamentally different.

Second, there are the twin studies that show that identical twins (who thus share the same DNA) are highly more likely to both be homosexual if one is homosexual than fraternal twins and adopted siblings.

All of the evidence, in fact, points towards a) there being a genetic predisposition to homosexuality; and b) homosexuality being a product of very, very early brain development, far before a human would have any concept of sexual attraction.

GabuEx

Nothing?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

First, there is the fact that the brain structures of heterosexual and homosexual people of the same gender are fundamentally different.

Second, there are the twin studies that show that identical twins (who thus share the same DNA) are highly more likely to both be homosexual if one is homosexual than fraternal twins and adopted siblings.

All of the evidence, in fact, points towards a) there being a genetic predisposition to homosexuality; and b) homosexuality being a product of very, very early brain development, far before a human would have any concept of sexual attraction.

GabuEx

Nothing?

To be honest, I want him to present his opinion, so we can debate and try to come to an understanding. But alas, I doubt that will ever happen

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Not all opinions are worthy of respect.

Ring_of_fire

What sort of opinion would be worthy of respect, in your opinion?

My initial complaint was not with a slur towards me but towards someone else who posted a little while ago and was insulted for it. All I ask is that people be a little more respectful when making their arguments. To be honest, I don't really care about the whole homosexuality thing, I don't have much of an opinion either way. It doesn't affect me in the slightest, so I don't really care. I was presenting a thought for the sake of discussion, not voicing my opinion.

It occured to me just before I posted this, that I quoted the wrong post, I meant to quote the guy who tried to make fun of me, but I'm too lazy to copy and paste it onto a new message, so whatevs.

It doesn't affect me in the slightest, so I don't really care.

mariomaster16

[QUOTE="mariomaster16"]

It doesn't affect me in the slightest, so I don't really care.

Theokhoth

In any of those situations, I might pick a side, but it's also fun to stand outside the fight and see what happens. Activism is too much effort for something I don't really care about, but I do enjoy debating from different sides. I once argued from a Christian and an Athiest standpoint in one class period just because no one else was chiming in.

I hope that's true because California voted Porp8, which was so much wrong on so many levels.

magicalclick

Edit: Meant "happened to be *for* it" - against gay marriage

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

I hope that's true because California voted Porp8, which was so much wrong on so many levels.

kussese

Anyone that supports gay marriage and isn't gay has too much time on their hands.SolidSnake35

Next we'll be seeing marrying animals....Conservative-g

Ah, this old moldly argument.

You do realize this is what is commonly referred to as a slipperly slope fallacy, right?http://www.fallacyfiles.org/slipslop.html

It's also arguably a non-sequitir.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="mariomaster16"]

It doesn't affect me in the slightest, so I don't really care.

mariomaster16

In any of those situations, I might pick a side, but it's also fun to stand outside the fight and see what happens. Activism is too much effort for something I don't really care about, but I do enjoy debating from different sides. I once argued from a Christian and an Athiest standpoint in one class period just because no one else was chiming in.

So basically you just like to stir crap, but not to take an actual stand on something?

Good for them. Im the guy who isnt for either side.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] And therein lies your problem. It's lack of empathy. I'm not black, but if slavery was reinstated then I would care tremendously. I'm not a woman, but if women were no longer allowed to vote then I would protest in the streets.worlock77

In any of those situations, I might pick a side, but it's also fun to stand outside the fight and see what happens. Activism is too much effort for something I don't really care about, but I do enjoy debating from different sides. I once argued from a Christian and an Athiest standpoint in one class period just because no one else was chiming in.

So basically you just like to stir crap, but not to take an actual stand on something?

No, but sometimes an opposing view needs to be presented. If only one side is ever considered, we would never be able to see the whole picture. Hearing other opinions, hopefully, makes us question our own beliefs. Until you've questioned your beliefs you can't really know what you believe. Even God said "Test me and see." It's important to hear other ways of thinking and to understand them, to undertand your own way of thinking.