nationalized health care is scary.

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#51 klubbis
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Nationalised health care is brilliant, I would rather live in a country that provided it. Health should be available to every single person, no matter how much money they have in their wallets.Marx_Brother
I totally agree, healthcare is nothing for buisnessmen to profit on. Even though I'd like another phrase than "nationalized healthcare", I would prefer "community healthcare" or something like that =). Nationalized gives you the idea that the "state" controls everything, and thats not the way it should work. Money from the state, yes, but healthcare from the community.
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#52 bloodling
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Free healthcare isn't scary...

In Canada, it takes time to be operated if it's not urgent, but if it is, you get operated right away. There's no way someone can die because of that... If there are many urgent cases, other operations will obviously have to wait.

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#53 mfsa
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Tell all that to people who can't afford health insurance.

Nationalised health services aren't perfect, but I'll take it over a pay to play service any day.

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#54 DrewTheSchu
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Couple of things:

America does NOT have the best health care in the world. In fact, we are behind quite a many countries. France is rated the best and they ironically enough have nationalized health care.

Yes no one is denied EMERGENCY care. That means people with painful, chronic, non life threatening illnesses or mental illnesses cannot get the medication they need because they can't afford it. Senior citizens also have a hard time affording the medications they need. And for those who are uninsured and still receive emergency care, they still must pay OUTRAGEOUS bills. I had some real crap insurance once and had to go to the ER because I couldn't stop throwing up and was suffering from severe dehydration. For just ONE IV bag and anti nausea medication I had to shell out $1500 AFTER my insurance. A bag of distilled water and pepto cost me $1500. $500 of that alone was just the doctor bill...and all he did was look at me chart and say "yup. your sick and dehydrated."

And for those who don't pay their bills, the tax payers have to pick up the slack so it's not like it would increase taxes that much either.

The only draw back would be the waiting lists which are like how you described.

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#55 CodingGenius
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The US medical system, with or without insurance, is very difficult to understand. I grew up in Canada, and had much shorter waiting times than under any of the 4 "good" insurance plans I have had here while in the US.

A friend of mine was recently billed over $30,000 for a 3 day stay in the hospital. That was only 3 days, but could have bankrupted her (as a student).

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#56 kaos-hero
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It works here in Tokyo and it's only around 100 a month for citizens and 6 bucks for outsiders/students.
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#57 blacktorn
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Well my country,england,has a nhs,seems to work for me lol

It isn't perfect,but nothing is.

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#58 GettingTired
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Free healthcare isn't scary...

In Canada, it takes time to be operated if it's not urgent, but if it is, you get operated right away. There's no way someone can die because of that... If there are many urgent cases, other operations will obviously have to wait.

bloodling

Why did you bump this?

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#59 markebici
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that list has so much false facts you had to get it from your imagination.
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#60 jekyll
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People over 70 are no longer allowed to get lifesaving transplants, EVER. So say good bye to grandma and grandpa.newbpwnage
Good!--Better than them living and wasting my inheritance.

Anyway, it's embarrassing that America doesn't have free health care for all. If they taxed us all an amount roughly equal to what taken from our paychecks anyway for insurance, they could likely cover everyone.