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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

Ok this thread got deleted by accident by me, so anyway back to the original problem. I have two film ideas that could possibly be made into actual films if I develop the ideas into treatments aka story overviews that detail what happens in the story. I was talking to my dad who is a director in england and he knows various people, and I suggested the ideas and he said to focus on just one. He asked whether I had any actors in mind if the ideas go through and actually work, I named a few that he said no to. THen as a joke I suggested Lina Leandersson, who was Eli in Let the right one in. Now he knows I really like that film, so I thought he would laugh and say no. Turns out that he knows someone who knows his agent and if he said that could work. This has pretty much blown my mind, now I want you guys to look at the basic plots of these 2 ideas and tell me which sounds better for a first time film and what could also be done to improve the ideas. I would really appreciate it, this is no joke and this could be my career calling if I do this well:D

1. This film is about a a young boy who is bored of life and how dull and mundane it is. He reads books and mostly stays in his own head thinking of various fantasies that he wishes would come true. He isn't bullied or abused by his parents, they pretty much ignore him. One weekend he decides to take a boat trip to a nearby island. When he arrives on the island he thinks it is a paradise for him, a place where he can be alone and not care whether his fantasys are real or not. He goes back to the island every weekend, but one day he finds a young homeless girl around his age begging for money. He feels sorry for her, and since he is still not totally comfortable or perceptive of reality yet he takes her with him to the island. Problem is, the girl works for a man who is a wanted criminal who takes all the money she makes begging on the street. The rest of the film is about the boy and the girl's relationship and how it changes when more people start to come to the island. Also the man who the girl is working for complicates things by trying to kidnap her and the boy, still being in his own world for the most part tries to save her thinking of himself as her Knight in Shining armor. It may seem happy, but it is very tragic too seeing as how this boy doesnt know how to cope with reality. In a way it is kinda like Bridge to Terabithia.

2. This one is a bit more out there, it is about a person, girl or guy either is fine. Who dies and wakes up in a rehab facility for the dead. The rest of the story is about this person and how they want to get out and see what happens when people make it out of the rehab center, whether they go to a heaven like place or not. While at the same time being forced to confront all of their problems and bad things they did in the past. You may have heard this story posted here by someone else, but let me assure you that this is my idea. I just kept it over different accounts.

Anyway, I appreciate any help and input and I would like to say again that this is not a joke. If this happens, then I would still post here and maybe even post updates on the film. Various people I know could really help get this film made.

guynamedbilly

Wristcutters was actually an inspiration for this idea, I liked that movie since it had Will Arnett and that man is awesome. I am gonna focus on 2 for now though, I will keep 1 in mind and not forget it but I posted a new and updated version of story 2 in this thread, look at that new story and tell me what you think:D

Are you saying she would actually come back to life or that she would be a ghost or spirit trapped in the coffin? That would be most disturbing and satisfying depending on the tone you wanted to try for with the film.guynamedbilly

I actually didnt think of the ghost idea, that would be really grim and depressing. I don't know if it might be a bit too grim and depressing. If she comes back and is alive and in the coffin then she just goes through a never ending cycle of living for a while, dieing, going to the rehab place with the other kids and maybe being killed there again. The ghost idea is really good though, I would like to see what anyone else thinks of the ghost idea, I dont want to be too grim.

I think I like the first one better - it could be like a fable, like pans labyrinth or something, just be careful of child actors - too smart and they can get annoying etc. Just with the other one - if people know its not real because its about the dead - it might be a bit harder to create that emotional level of forcing people to look back on their mistakes etc. mm its hard to explain. Did you get to the end of my script though?! biggest_loser

I think I got about halfway through, but I took a break to do some writing. Problem is my idiot friend erased my inbox and my PC crashed because of a faulty virus program that wasnt compatible with vista. Could you send another copy? I dont want to sound bothersome, I am actually really interested in reading the rest. I see what you mean with child actors, they can be great like Natalie Portman in Leon or Lina Leandersson in Let the right one in, or they can be awful like the 2 kids in 28 weeks later. Also even though she wasnt a child actor, Ellen Page was kinda annoying and overly smart in Juno. I am going to keep the first idea, so I will not forget about it. I did have an idea for the ending of the first story where the homeless girl wants to run away with the boy and he wants to go with her too. Unfortunatly before he can escape with her he is caught and killed by someone I cant think of right now. The last shot of the film could be her waiting for him, then turning sadly away and leaving without him. A bit sad but it could work. Also did you just read the original story idea I had for the first story or did you check out how I updated it throughout the thread? I am thinking of taking out the imagineation parts so it doesnt sound too generic.

I kinda want to avoid putting something more religous like having characters go to heaven, not that I am against the idea I just think it would be too obvious. I thought the coffin ending, while being a bit dark, may work because of the irony of the ending. Film-Guy

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]I kinda want to avoid putting something more religous like having characters go to heaven, not that I am against the idea I just think it would be too obvious. I thought the coffin ending, while being a bit dark, may work because of the irony of the ending. Deihjan

The coffin ending is also a bit to similar to a famous dutch film called Spoorloos aka The Vanishing that had a similar ending, I doubt many here know what I am talking about since that film is not very popular. I can see the coffin ending being more fit for a more scary or thriller film, seems a bit out of place in a film I am writing like a slow paced emotional drama about forgiveness and possible the possibility of Atonement. I don't know what would happen if she got out of the rehab center, I never really thought how that would work. I just thought of the first coffin idea and saw it like a twisted cycle where she and many other will die, wake up in the rehab place, maybe die again, then wake up in a coffin. Makes the ending a bit more meaningful, also it shows that maybe these kids who got into a fight that resulted in each others deaths can eventually get along and maybe when they meet other kids who have died they can help them too. I think th other coffin ending is a bit too dark and grim for a story like this, even thought this isnt exactly a light hearted comedy.

I think th other coffin ending is a bit too dark and grim for a story like this, even thought this isnt exactly a light hearted comedy.Film-Guy

The way I imagined the first one was like this. The kid is a loner, but not really by choice. He just decides to go on adventures by himself and no-ine wants to join him. Then he meets the girl, and suddenly he has someone to go on an adventure with. Perhaps this girl could be envisioned as a princess, with him being the knight, as you said. However, as the film progresses, the kid would get older, so that finally, when the knight and princess are adults and they fight the evil man, we're suddenly ripped out of his imagination... his world of fantasy is destoryed, and we see it for what it really is: him and his crack whore girlfriend getting high. Drugs, being the evil man. Eventually, the man could win, or you could simply leave it there without the audience knowing the outcome.

Personally I like my idea, but I don't expect you to take anything from it.

I'm serious about it, I just can't explain it very well.

The second one didn't appeal to me at all. Sorry.

The way I imagined the first one was like this. The kid is a loner, but not really by choice. He just decides to go on adventures by himself and no-ine wants to join him. Then he meets the girl, and suddenly he has someone to go on an adventure with. Perhaps this girl could be envisioned as a princess, with him being the knight, as you said. However, as the film progresses, the kid would get older, so that finally, when the knight and princess are adults and they fight the evil man, we're suddenly ripped out of his imagination... his world of fantasy is destoryed, and we see it for what it really is: him and his crack whore girlfriend getting high. Drugs, being the evil man. Eventually, the man could win, or you could simply leave it there without the audience knowing the outcome.

Personally I like my idea, but I don't expect you to take anything from it.

I'm serious about it, I just can't explain it very well.

The second one didn't appeal to me at all. Sorry.

DigitalExile

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]I think th other coffin ending is a bit too dark and grim for a story like this, even thought this isnt exactly a light hearted comedy.Deihjan

Yeah this is going to be alot tougher to write as a film than the first idea, then again I love a challenge. I feel like this could really be something special if I did it right. There is something in this story I find appealing and interesting. The ending is going to be tough to do though, the dieing and the repeating thing could work well but for some people it may prove tiresome after watching a whole film about a rehab place for the dead maybe the idea that the main character will never escape it is not just depressing but it could even be frustrating to many people who have invested emotion and time into the character. The Thriller ending wouldnt work and I can see the idea of them turning into ghosts in either the real world or the rehab place as being a bit cheesy if not done right. Damnit I just dont know!

The Thriller ending wouldnt work and I can see the idea of them turning into ghosts in either the real world or the rehab place as being a bit cheesy if not done right. Damnit I just dont know!Film-Guy

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

The way I imagined the first one was like this. The kid is a loner, but not really by choice. He just decides to go on adventures by himself and no-ine wants to join him. Then he meets the girl, and suddenly he has someone to go on an adventure with. Perhaps this girl could be envisioned as a princess, with him being the knight, as you said. However, as the film progresses, the kid would get older, so that finally, when the knight and princess are adults and they fight the evil man, we're suddenly ripped out of his imagination... his world of fantasy is destoryed, and we see it for what it really is: him and his crack whore girlfriend getting high. Drugs, being the evil man. Eventually, the man could win, or you could simply leave it there without the audience knowing the outcome.

Personally I like my idea, but I don't expect you to take anything from it.

I'm serious about it, I just can't explain it very well.

The second one didn't appeal to me at all. Sorry.

Deihjan

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

The way I imagined the first one was like this. The kid is a loner, but not really by choice. He just decides to go on adventures by himself and no-ine wants to join him. Then he meets the girl, and suddenly he has someone to go on an adventure with. Perhaps this girl could be envisioned as a princess, with him being the knight, as you said. However, as the film progresses, the kid would get older, so that finally, when the knight and princess are adults and they fight the evil man, we're suddenly ripped out of his imagination... his world of fantasy is destoryed, and we see it for what it really is: him and his crack whore girlfriend getting high. Drugs, being the evil man. Eventually, the man could win, or you could simply leave it there without the audience knowing the outcome.

Personally I like my idea, but I don't expect you to take anything from it.

I'm serious about it, I just can't explain it very well.

The second one didn't appeal to me at all. Sorry.

DigitalExile

The way I imagined the first one was like this. The kid is a loner, but not really by choice. He just decides to go on adventures by himself and no-ine wants to join him. Then he meets the girl, and suddenly he has someone to go on an adventure with. Perhaps this girl could be envisioned as a princess, with him being the knight, as you said. However, as the film progresses, the kid would get older, so that finally, when the knight and princess are adults and they fight the evil man, we're suddenly ripped out of his imagination... his world of fantasy is destoryed, and we see it for what it really is: him and his crack whore girlfriend getting high. Drugs, being the evil man. Eventually, the man could win, or you could simply leave it there without the audience knowing the outcome.

Personally I like my idea, but I don't expect you to take anything from it.

I'm serious about it, I just can't explain it very well.

The second one didn't appeal to me at all. Sorry.

DigitalExile

I like most of what you suggested, actually your idea of him not being a loner by choice would work really well. I dont know if I agree with the drugs part though, but the idea of the kid being in his own world and being ripped from it by a traumatic event is what I was hoping to do with this idea. I still think I should keep them kids for the whole film though, keeps an element of innosense that would fit the story. What do you think of the idea for the ending I posted earlier, that the kid wants to run away with the girl, but the thing that tears him from his fantasy world in his head is something that kills him like some kind of bad guy I cant think of a background for right now. The story would end with her waiting for him somewhere, maybe at a boat dock or something, then after a while she leaves sadly without him.

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

The way I imagined the first one was like this. The kid is a loner, but not really by choice. He just decides to go on adventures by himself and no-ine wants to join him. Then he meets the girl, and suddenly he has someone to go on an adventure with. Perhaps this girl could be envisioned as a princess, with him being the knight, as you said. However, as the film progresses, the kid would get older, so that finally, when the knight and princess are adults and they fight the evil man, we're suddenly ripped out of his imagination... his world of fantasy is destoryed, and we see it for what it really is: him and his crack whore girlfriend getting high. Drugs, being the evil man. Eventually, the man could win, or you could simply leave it there without the audience knowing the outcome.

Personally I like my idea, but I don't expect you to take anything from it.

I'm serious about it, I just can't explain it very well.

The second one didn't appeal to me at all. Sorry.

Film-Guy

I like most of what you suggested, actually your idea of him not being a loner by choice would work really well. I dont know if I agree with the drugs part though, but the idea of the kid being in his own world and being ripped from it by a traumatic event is what I was hoping to do with this idea. I still think I should keep them kids for the whole film though, keeps an element of innosense that would fit the story. What do you think of the idea for the ending I posted earlier, that the kid wants to run away with the girl, but the thing that tears him from his fantasy world in his head is something that kills him like some kind of bad guy I cant think of a background for right now. The story would end with her waiting for him somewhere, maybe at a boat dock or something, then after a while she leaves sadly without him.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I think I like the first one better - it could be like a fable, like pans labyrinth or something, just be careful of child actors - too smart and they can get annoying etc. Just with the other one - if people know its not real because its about the dead - it might be a bit harder to create that emotional level of forcing people to look back on their mistakes etc. mm its hard to explain. Did you get to the end of my script though?! Film-Guy

I think I got about halfway through, but I took a break to do some writing. Problem is my idiot friend erased my inbox and my PC crashed because of a faulty virus program that wasnt compatible with vista. Could you send another copy? I dont want to sound bothersome, I am actually really interested in reading the rest. I see what you mean with child actors, they can be great like Natalie Portman in Leon or Lina Leandersson in Let the right one in, or they can be awful like the 2 kids in 28 weeks later. Also even though she wasnt a child actor, Ellen Page was kinda annoying and overly smart in Juno. I am going to keep the first idea, so I will not forget about it. I did have an idea for the ending of the first story where the homeless girl wants to run away with the boy and he wants to go with her too. Unfortunatly before he can escape with her he is caught and killed by someone I cant think of right now. The last shot of the film could be her waiting for him, then turning sadly away and leaving without him. A bit sad but it could work. Also did you just read the original story idea I had for the first story or did you check out how I updated it throughout the thread? I am thinking of taking out the imagineation parts so it doesnt sound too generic.

They both could be good. Yea, the more I think about it, they both seem like pretty original ideas.

On the second one, though, I think I would change the setting. In my life, I've seen far too many films in a hospital-like setting. So, since I feel that the most interesting part of what you said about it is the mystery (why he or she is there), the setting should be in a mysterious place, giving the viewers the feeling that they have little idea what is going on, which is the same feeling the main character has. I'm imagining something like Pan's Labyrinth.

Great ideas, though. Me likey. :D

I like most of what you suggested, actually your idea of him not being a loner by choice would work really well. I dont know if I agree with the drugs part though, but the idea of the kid being in his own world and being ripped from it by a traumatic event is what I was hoping to do with this idea. I still think I should keep them kids for the whole film though, keeps an element of innosense that would fit the story. What do you think of the idea for the ending I posted earlier, that the kid wants to run away with the girl, but the thing that tears him from his fantasy world in his head is something that kills him like some kind of bad guy I cant think of a background for right now. The story would end with her waiting for him somewhere, maybe at a boat dock or something, then after a while she leaves sadly without him.

Film-Guy

By the end of the film, we'd see that all; those sequences of him elaving the house are one moment--one single day--he's going somewhere, to meet his only friend--a a girl--at the local playground, but on the way there he is hit by a car (driven by the bad man of course). Each visit to the island is him mind running through all the things he and the girl will be doing at the park.

On the side of the road we see the on-lookers, and right past them walks the little girl, clearly dissapointed that her friend never showed, byt she never see's who was injured, so she never knows.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

The way I imagined the first one was like this. The kid is a loner, but not really by choice. He just decides to go on adventures by himself and no-ine wants to join him. Then he meets the girl, and suddenly he has someone to go on an adventure with. Perhaps this girl could be envisioned as a princess, with him being the knight, as you said. However, as the film progresses, the kid would get older, so that finally, when the knight and princess are adults and they fight the evil man, we're suddenly ripped out of his imagination... his world of fantasy is destoryed, and we see it for what it really is: him and his crack whore girlfriend getting high. Drugs, being the evil man. Eventually, the man could win, or you could simply leave it there without the audience knowing the outcome.

Personally I like my idea, but I don't expect you to take anything from it.

I'm serious about it, I just can't explain it very well.

The second one didn't appeal to me at all. Sorry.

Deihjan

I like most of what you suggested, actually your idea of him not being a loner by choice would work really well. I dont know if I agree with the drugs part though, but the idea of the kid being in his own world and being ripped from it by a traumatic event is what I was hoping to do with this idea. I still think I should keep them kids for the whole film though, keeps an element of innosense that would fit the story. What do you think of the idea for the ending I posted earlier, that the kid wants to run away with the girl, but the thing that tears him from his fantasy world in his head is something that kills him like some kind of bad guy I cant think of a background for right now. The story would end with her waiting for him somewhere, maybe at a boat dock or something, then after a while she leaves sadly without him.

Yeah, its one of my favorite book series. Its one of the few book series I didnt want to end once it ended.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I think I like the first one better - it could be like a fable, like pans labyrinth or something, just be careful of child actors - too smart and they can get annoying etc. Just with the other one - if people know its not real because its about the dead - it might be a bit harder to create that emotional level of forcing people to look back on their mistakes etc. mm its hard to explain. Did you get to the end of my script though?! biggest_loser

I think I got about halfway through, but I took a break to do some writing. Problem is my idiot friend erased my inbox and my PC crashed because of a faulty virus program that wasnt compatible with vista. Could you send another copy? I dont want to sound bothersome, I am actually really interested in reading the rest. I see what you mean with child actors, they can be great like Natalie Portman in Leon or Lina Leandersson in Let the right one in, or they can be awful like the 2 kids in 28 weeks later. Also even though she wasnt a child actor, Ellen Page was kinda annoying and overly smart in Juno. I am going to keep the first idea, so I will not forget about it. I did have an idea for the ending of the first story where the homeless girl wants to run away with the boy and he wants to go with her too. Unfortunatly before he can escape with her he is caught and killed by someone I cant think of right now. The last shot of the film could be her waiting for him, then turning sadly away and leaving without him. A bit sad but it could work. Also did you just read the original story idea I had for the first story or did you check out how I updated it throughout the thread? I am thinking of taking out the imagineation parts so it doesnt sound too generic.

An open ending would be good, leaves it up to the viewers imagineation. If I could think of one like that I would.

They both could be good. Yea, the more I think about it, they both seem like pretty original ideas.

On the second one, though, I think I would change the setting. In my life, I've seen far too many films in a hospital-like setting. So, since I feel that the most interesting part of what you said about it is the mystery (why he or she is there), the setting should be in a mysterious place, giving the viewers the feeling that they have little idea what is going on, which is the same feeling the main character has. I'm imagining something like Pan's Labyrinth.

Great ideas, though. Me likey. :D

gbpman630

I wouldnt want the setting to be a hospital setting, too dull. For real mystery and atmosphere I would love to set it somewhere with alot of snow, like the Laplands in Sweden.

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]

They both could be good. Yea, the more I think about it, they both seem like pretty original ideas.

On the second one, though, I think I would change the setting. In my life, I've seen far too many films in a hospital-like setting. So, since I feel that the most interesting part of what you said about it is the mystery (why he or she is there), the setting should be in a mysterious place, giving the viewers the feeling that they have little idea what is going on, which is the same feeling the main character has. I'm imagining something like Pan's Labyrinth.

Great ideas, though. Me likey. :D

Film-Guy

I wouldnt want the setting to be a hospital setting, too dull. For real mystery and atmosphere I would love to set it somewhere with alot of snow, like the Laplands in Sweden.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

I like most of what you suggested, actually your idea of him not being a loner by choice would work really well. I dont know if I agree with the drugs part though, but the idea of the kid being in his own world and being ripped from it by a traumatic event is what I was hoping to do with this idea. I still think I should keep them kids for the whole film though, keeps an element of innosense that would fit the story. What do you think of the idea for the ending I posted earlier, that the kid wants to run away with the girl, but the thing that tears him from his fantasy world in his head is something that kills him like some kind of bad guy I cant think of a background for right now. The story would end with her waiting for him somewhere, maybe at a boat dock or something, then after a while she leaves sadly without him.

DigitalExile

By the end of the film, we'd see that all; those sequences of him elaving the house are one moment--one single day--he's going somewhere, to meet his only friend--a a girl--at the local playground, but on the way there he is hit by a car (driven by the bad man of course). Each visit to the island is him mind running through all the things he and the girl will be doing at the park.

On the side of the road we see the on-lookers, and right past them walks the little girl, clearly dissapointed that her friend never showed, byt she never see's who was injured, so she never knows.

I like that, kinda reminds me of the films Jacobs ladder and Stay. Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but if the whole thing with the island including the bad man is in his head and what he wants to do with the girl, why is it the bad man who hits him with the car?

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="gbpman630"]

They both could be good. Yea, the more I think about it, they both seem like pretty original ideas.

On the second one, though, I think I would change the setting. In my life, I've seen far too many films in a hospital-like setting. So, since I feel that the most interesting part of what you said about it is the mystery (why he or she is there), the setting should be in a mysterious place, giving the viewers the feeling that they have little idea what is going on, which is the same feeling the main character has. I'm imagining something like Pan's Labyrinth.

Great ideas, though. Me likey. :D

DigitalExile

I wouldnt want the setting to be a hospital setting, too dull. For real mystery and atmosphere I would love to set it somewhere with alot of snow, like the Laplands in Sweden.

Thinking outside the box:P I am thinking more of a natural setting, something beautiful yet melancholy and stark. Somewhere like Iceland or as I mentioned before the laplands in sweden. Someone else here mentioned the Isle of Skye in Scotland as a setting.

I like that, kinda reminds me of the films Jacobs ladder and Stay. Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but if the whole thing with the island including the bad man is in his head and what he wants to do with the girl, why is it the bad man who hits him with the car?

Film-Guy

Yeah, its one of my favorite book series. Its one of the few book series I didnt want to end once it ended.

Film-Guy

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

I like that, kinda reminds me of the films Jacobs ladder and Stay. Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but if the whole thing with the island including the bad man is in his head and what he wants to do with the girl, why is it the bad man who hits him with the car?

DigitalExile

Ok that makes sense now, sounds really good too. Only downside is that people may be thinking the sudden change at the end is too much or something. Sorta like those endings where the whole film turned out to be just a dream. I dont think it is like that at all, I am just thinking for a sec of what the studios might think.

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

I like that, kinda reminds me of the films Jacobs ladder and Stay. Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but if the whole thing with the island including the bad man is in his head and what he wants to do with the girl, why is it the bad man who hits him with the car?

Film-Guy

Ok that makes sense now, sounds really good too. Only downside is that people may be thinking the sudden change at the end is too much or something. Sorta like those endings where the whole film turned out to be just a dream. I dont think it is like that at all, I am just thinking for a sec of what the studios might think.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]I tried to explain and failed. The island scenes are him thinking about his play date. Even though he hasn't played with her yet, he's antisipating it so much he imagines (goes to the island) all the things they could do. The bad man is there because he was thinking about the play date when he got hit by the car. He incorporates the drivers face into his imagination.

DigitalExile

Ok that makes sense now, sounds really good too. Only downside is that people may be thinking the sudden change at the end is too much or something. Sorta like those endings where the whole film turned out to be just a dream. I dont think it is like that at all, I am just thinking for a sec of what the studios might think.

I will think more about that ending, but right now I am going to concentrate more on the second idea. I really want this rehab idea to work and I appreciate any help you guys can offer with it.

Okay, here's my idea.

It starts off with the kid asking his parents something, and they tell him to run off and play (not caring what he does). He does so and we see him going out on his own until he comes across a boat and decides to paddle out to the island. He lands on the island and he begins to explore. You'll need to decide what happens here, but by the end it should show that some sort of passage of time has passed (i.e. it's getting dark, so he goes home).

The next day his parents say the same thing, so he goes to find some local kids, who tell him the same thing. He decides to return to the island. This time the girl is here. They explore together, but it gets late again and he has to go home. They leave the island together.

On the next day he tries to talk to his parents, and the kids again, but they say the same thing. So he goes back to the island where he finds the girl waiting. This time she tells him someone else is on the island. Here we find the bad man (we don;t see his face--perhaps he could appear faceless). Here you'll have to decide what makes him bad. After more exploring or playing it starts to get dark again and they both leave.

For the final time we see him leave the house, only this time he runs outside, excited. His aprents exchange looks and ask where he's headed, but he's already gone. He runs straight past the kids, they ask him if he wants to play, but he keeps on running, through the town/where-ever he lives, with purpose.

We then see the island again. It's quiet and the girl is sitting alone, on the docks waiting. The bad man comes up, and she gets scared, but he tries to tell her it's okay. Suddenly more people come to the island and she begins to get nervous, but they all tell her it's okay, and that she shouldn't look. The camera zooms in on her face and the orange glow of the afternoon sun slowly turns into red and blue lights. The camera zooms out again and we see someone nearby hug her, covering her eyes. The camera zooms out and up, and we see the young boy lying on the road, an ambulance near-by and a crowd gathered around. Doctors rush to him and the camera pans and zooms into his eye. We see the island again, and he's the one sitting at the docks, waiting for the girl.

Le fin.

I think that should be clear enough to audiences. The ending is also ambiguous, so they can make up their own minds of what happens to the boy, unless they're that lazy and stupid. You'll have to make it more interesting, and flesh out the idea of the bad man (still the driver of the car) and what-not, but I hope you like the idea, or at least appreciate it. =)

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

Ok that makes sense now, sounds really good too. Only downside is that people may be thinking the sudden change at the end is too much or something. Sorta like those endings where the whole film turned out to be just a dream. I dont think it is like that at all, I am just thinking for a sec of what the studios might think.

Film-Guy

I will think more about that ending, but right now I am going to concentrate more on the second idea. I really want this rehab idea to work and I appreciate any help you guys can offer with it.

I will think more about that ending, but right now I am going to concentrate more on the second idea. I really want this rehab idea to work and I appreciate any help you guys can offer with it.

I posted some info on it earlier, but basically it is about a young girl who is in a public bathroom one day when a boy she knows is dragged in by two older boys. They beat him up in a stall and when she tries to help she gets killed, but the young boy and the 2 older boys die as well. They wake up in the middle of a snowy forest or wherever a good natural place is to set the film and they wander around and after the predictable confused arguement they find out that they are in a sort of rehab for the dead where they have to find out what it was they did wrong in their lives that lead to them all dieing since the only memory they have when they wake up is how they died. The rest of the film would be about their relationships with each other and the other kids they meet in the rehab place, and as the film goes on you slowly find out what happened that lead up to their deaths. Go ahead and suggest more stuff, I will be glad to hear it.

I posted some info on it earlier, but basically it is about a young girl who is in a public bathroom one day when a boy she knows is dragged in by two older boys. They beat him up in a stall and when she tries to help she gets killed, but the young boy and the 2 older boys die as well. They wake up in the middle of a snowy forest or wherever a good natural place is to set the film and they wander around and after the predictable confused arguement they find out that they are in a sort of rehab for the dead where they have to find out what it was they did wrong in their lives that lead to them all dieing since the only memory they have when they wake up is how they died. The rest of the film would be about their relationships with each other and the other kids they meet in the rehab place, and as the film goes on you slowly find out what happened that lead up to their deaths. Go ahead and suggest more stuff, I will be glad to hear it.

Film-Guy

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I posted some info on it earlier, but basically it is about a young girl who is in a public bathroom one day when a boy she knows is dragged in by two older boys. They beat him up in a stall and when she tries to help she gets killed, but the young boy and the 2 older boys die as well. They wake up in the middle of a snowy forest or wherever a good natural place is to set the film and they wander around and after the predictable confused arguement they find out that they are in a sort of rehab for the dead where they have to find out what it was they did wrong in their lives that lead to them all dieing since the only memory they have when they wake up is how they died. The rest of the film would be about their relationships with each other and the other kids they meet in the rehab place, and as the film goes on you slowly find out what happened that lead up to their deaths. Go ahead and suggest more stuff, I will be glad to hear it.

DigitalExile

Nothing specific yet.

Ok, I have been doing some more writing on the story I am focusing on, which is the second one. I have been struggling with a way to write and ending and the backstory as to why the main characters killed each other at the start of the story. My original ending is one with the main character waking up in a coffin after dieing in the rehab world, but I thought that was too much like a horror or a thriller film. I came up with a new ending that is actually a happy one unlike all my other endings:P

Anyway, the new ending is the two main kids decide to explore outside the rehab grounds. They go through forests and such and they eventually discover a group of kids living in a section of the forest by themselves. They discover that these kids left the rehab grounds because they didn't want to find out how they died out of fear, they just wanted to start over and forget their troubled past. The two main characters are interested in living with them because they hate living with the other kids on the rehab grounds, but this is after the point where they both discovered how and why they killed each other before. The only way for them to live with the others is for them to forget why they killed each other. The boy gets scared and leaves to go back to the rehab grounds so he can think about it, the girl though stays behind to talk to the other kids to see if she can arrange something. Later on when she hasn't come back to the grounds, the boy starts to get worried. Eventually though he see's her walk out of the forest, but he notices that most of the other kids are trying to avoid her. He runs up to her and is happy to see her, but when he calls her name she doesn't recognize him. He then realizes what she did and it shocks him at first, then he says that he wants to show her something that she will like. She agree's to go and the last shot of the film would be them running back into the forest that the kids who dont want to remember their pasts are.

The only thing I need to figure out now is what the kids what do at the rehab center, and an interesting backstory that explains why the main characters killed each other to begin with. I have some ideas, but they are too basic to write a story out of. I think the backstory should be something that doesnt make any of the kids good or bad, even the young girl does ba things and that may be why she decides to do what she did so she can forget them. I still welcome ideas for the other story and I appreciate any help, but for now my focus is one the other story.