New rap should be BANNED!!! Listen kids time for a history lesson.

Not only has rap and rappers today suck but my god they are now getting lazy in making their own songs because they are getting classic music from 10, 20, 30, etc years old and they are not even rap, they are rock, pop, techno, trance, dance and they are making rap version of them.

not all new rap should be banned. there are some good artist out there. j.cole (friday night lights) deeper than the vast reaches of space to me. wale another rapper that keeps hiphop fresh. man no one else is coming to mind but them two are nice

Oh look, it's the thread where people find old music and say it's way better than music today.

New rap sucks, old rap sucks. The genre as a whole just kinda sucks. People think for some reason that in past times music was just head and shoulders above all modern music.

Music is a constantly evolving medium which has changed since its inception and is being constantly molded to suit the needs of the consumer. I don't particularly enjoy modern music so much, but I'm aware that there is quality music out there suited to my tastes.

But rap music. I just have never enjoyed or cared about this genre. R&B, soul, jazz sure those are great, but rap I just don't care about. It hasn't changed or evolved in the time that its been in existence and it seems to just get lazier with age.

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]old rap sucksMercenary848

I have noticed people with Halo avatars only post ignorant, comments.

See I can make bloated ignorant comments, from a few limited experiences.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Late 80s and early 90s rap >>>> todays rap

KRSONE, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Too $hort, 2Pac, E-40 and The Click, Mast Ace, Scarface, Tribe Called Quest, COmptons MOst Wanted, Above The Law, RUN DMC, Gangstarr, RBL POSSE, etc..

Harisemo

eminem alone is better then most of those rappers combined

BWAHAHAHAHA!! this **** is golden right here guys.

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Late 80s and early 90s rap >>>> todays rap

KRSONE, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Too $hort, 2Pac, E-40 and The Click, Mast Ace, Scarface, Tribe Called Quest, COmptons MOst Wanted, Above The Law, RUN DMC, Gangstarr, RBL POSSE, etc..

kozzy1234

eminem alone is better then most of those rappers combined

Been listening to rap music since 1986 and rap music these days just cant compare, 99% of rap these days is straight garbage. Back int he day it was alot better imo, wasnt as much of a gimmick, was just about music. Now its about whos got hte most swag,etc..

99%? i hope you are only talking mainstream. if not, you couldn't be more wrong...

But rap music. I just have never enjoyed or cared about this genre. R&B, soul, jazz sure those are great, but rap I just don't care about. It hasn't changed or evolved in the time that its been in existence and it seems to just get lazier with age.

starfox15

what a surprise. an OTer who admits to not even listening to a genre making ridiculous bold statements about said genre. but hey, ignorance is bliss though right?

There is good rap today just turn off your radio and stop watching MTV and look for it. I'll give you a head start.

Agreed, i don't want to hear a rapper talk about his "lollipop" and autotune has gotten way out of hand! I don't listen to any of that garbage. The rap songs all have the same recycled content in every song, all the songs revolve around sex, money, guns, drugs. While older rap had a lot of that content too, they also talked about struggles, society, people, emotions, now a guy can say "superman that ho" and dance around like an idiot and get paid millions and millions. It makes no sense.

LtDan1989

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

But rap music. I just have never enjoyed or cared about this genre. R&B, soul, jazz sure those are great, but rap I just don't care about. It hasn't changed or evolved in the time that its been in existence and it seems to just get lazier with age.

lazerface216

what a surprise. an OTer who admits to not even listening to a genre making ridiculous bold statements about said genre. but hey, ignorance is bliss though right?

The evolution of rap is the idea that rap music used to be about gang related activity, drug use, and living in urban hell and is now about soulless figureheads doing nothing but singing about sexual exploitation and money. 50 Cent is a business man who makes more money than most people will ever see with their own eyes, Snoop Dogg had his own reality show, Eminem hasn't been interesting since he came into being, and Kanye West is an egotistical maniac. A lot of rap artists have moved on to sell out to becoming actors in movies and god-awful reality TV. This isn't exclusive to rap music either, but it just seems to be a fairly common theme within the genre. Rap music has devolved into a #@$-waving contest between rap "artists" and their own idiotic rivalries between each other. Nobody (in mainstream rap anyway) seems to care about the genre above their own wallets.

Nothing I say here is going to change anything. It's just my subjective viewpoint on the topic. People are going to continue to support genres I despise and that just makes me that much more motivated to seek out better music.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

But rap music. I just have never enjoyed or cared about this genre. R&B, soul, jazz sure those are great, but rap I just don't care about. It hasn't changed or evolved in the time that its been in existence and it seems to just get lazier with age.

starfox15

what a surprise. an OTer who admits to not even listening to a genre making ridiculous bold statements about said genre. but hey, ignorance is bliss though right?

The evolution of rap is the idea that rap music used to be about gang related activity, drug use, and living in urban hell and is now about soulless figureheads doing nothing but singing about sexual exploitation and money. 50 Cent is a business man who makes more money than most people will ever see with their own eyes, Snoop Dogg had his own reality show, Eminem hasn't been interesting since he came into being, and Kanye West is an egotistical maniac. A lot of rap artists have moved on to sell out to becoming actors in movies and god-awful reality TV. This isn't exclusive to rap music either, but it just seems to be a fairly common theme within the genre. Rap music has devolved into a #@$-waving contest between rap "artists" and their own idiotic rivalries between each other. Nobody (in mainstream rap anyway) seems to care about the genre above their own wallets.

Nothing I say here is going to change anything. It's just my subjective viewpoint on the topic. People are going to continue to support genres I despise and that just makes me that much more motivated to seek out better music.

So it's all Ice Cube's fault. Oh well. But a lot of your issues seem to have been around since the 90's if not the mid 80's.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

But rap music. I just have never enjoyed or cared about this genre. R&B, soul, jazz sure those are great, but rap I just don't care about. It hasn't changed or evolved in the time that its been in existence and it seems to just get lazier with age.

starfox15

what a surprise. an OTer who admits to not even listening to a genre making ridiculous bold statements about said genre. but hey, ignorance is bliss though right?

The evolution of rap is the idea that rap music used to be about gang related activity, drug use, and living in urban hell and is now about soulless figureheads doing nothing but singing about sexual exploitation and money. 50 Cent is a business man who makes more money than most people will ever see with their own eyes, Snoop Dogg had his own reality show, Eminem hasn't been interesting since he came into being, and Kanye West is an egotistical maniac. A lot of rap artists have moved on to sell out to becoming actors in movies and god-awful reality TV. This isn't exclusive to rap music either, but it just seems to be a fairly common theme within the genre. Rap music has devolved into a #@$-waving contest between rap "artists" and their own idiotic rivalries between each other. Nobody (in mainstream rap anyway) seems to care about the genre above their own wallets.

Nothing I say here is going to change anything. It's just my subjective viewpoint on the topic. People are going to continue to support genres I despise and that just makes me that much more motivated to seek out better music.

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

what a surprise. an OTer who admits to not even listening to a genre making ridiculous bold statements about said genre. but hey, ignorance is bliss though right?

mems_1224

The evolution of rap is the idea that rap music used to be about gang related activity, drug use, and living in urban hell and is now about soulless figureheads doing nothing but singing about sexual exploitation and money. 50 Cent is a business man who makes more money than most people will ever see with their own eyes, Snoop Dogg had his own reality show, Eminem hasn't been interesting since he came into being, and Kanye West is an egotistical maniac. A lot of rap artists have moved on to sell out to becoming actors in movies and god-awful reality TV. This isn't exclusive to rap music either, but it just seems to be a fairly common theme within the genre. Rap music has devolved into a #@$-waving contest between rap "artists" and their own idiotic rivalries between each other. Nobody (in mainstream rap anyway) seems to care about the genre above their own wallets.

Nothing I say here is going to change anything. It's just my subjective viewpoint on the topic. People are going to continue to support genres I despise and that just makes me that much more motivated to seek out better music.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

But rap music. I just have never enjoyed or cared about this genre. R&B, soul, jazz sure those are great, but rap I just don't care about. It hasn't changed or evolved in the time that its been in existence and it seems to just get lazier with age.

starfox15

what a surprise. an OTer who admits to not even listening to a genre making ridiculous bold statements about said genre. but hey, ignorance is bliss though right?

The evolution of rap is the idea that rap music used to be about gang related activity, drug use, and living in urban hell and is now about soulless figureheads doing nothing but singing about sexual exploitation and money. 50 Cent is a business man who makes more money than most people will ever see with their own eyes, Snoop Dogg had his own reality show, Eminem hasn't been interesting since he came into being, and Kanye West is an egotistical maniac. A lot of rap artists have moved on to sell out to becoming actors in movies and god-awful reality TV. This isn't exclusive to rap music either, but it just seems to be a fairly common theme within the genre. Rap music has devolved into a #@$-waving contest between rap "artists" and their own idiotic rivalries between each other. Nobody (in mainstream rap anyway) seems to care about the genre above their own wallets.

Nothing I say here is going to change anything. It's just my subjective viewpoint on the topic. People are going to continue to support genres I despise and that just makes me that much more motivated to seek out better music.

you seem to think that the evolution of hip hop has to be strictly confined to it's relevance in the top 40. this is not true for any genre of music, ever. you obviously don't listen to hip hop so how can your subjective viewpoint be taken with anything more than a grain of salt? should we base our thoughts on the current evolution of rock off of nickelback and daughtry? mainstream music these days is awful, we get it. thank god that means jack **** though...

The only people who STILL stay dumb stuff like that are the people who let Lil Wayne be the representation of all hip hop.

Look, Hip Hop as a whole has been good, its just that becoming a mainstream artist is alot easier than it used to be, so therefore there will be a higher ratio of bad music to good music.

However, there is still enough good music to go around.

Besides, Kanye West, Yelawolf, AND Curren$y's new album came out on Monday. This was a good week for music IMO.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="starfox15"]

The evolution of rap is the idea that rap music used to be about gang related activity, drug use, and living in urban hell and is now about soulless figureheads doing nothing but singing about sexual exploitation and money. 50 Cent is a business man who makes more money than most people will ever see with their own eyes, Snoop Dogg had his own reality show, Eminem hasn't been interesting since he came into being, and Kanye West is an egotistical maniac. A lot of rap artists have moved on to sell out to becoming actors in movies and god-awful reality TV. This isn't exclusive to rap music either, but it just seems to be a fairly common theme within the genre. Rap music has devolved into a #@$-waving contest between rap "artists" and their own idiotic rivalries between each other. Nobody (in mainstream rap anyway) seems to care about the genre above their own wallets.

Nothing I say here is going to change anything. It's just my subjective viewpoint on the topic. People are going to continue to support genres I despise and that just makes me that much more motivated to seek out better music.

Proobie44

[QUOTE="Proobie44"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Kanye West, although egotistical and a gigantic ***** still makes great music. and the mainstream in in genre sucks. mainstream rock sucks. there are plenty of great rappers outside of what you hear on the radio mems_1224

[QUOTE="Proobie44"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Kanye West, although egotistical and a gigantic ***** still makes great music. and the mainstream in in genre sucks. mainstream rock sucks. there are plenty of great rappers outside of what you hear on the radio mems_1224

And I'll chime in that it is better than those as well. Graduation is nothing compared to this.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="Proobie44"]So kanye's new album is awesome? How good is it? Like Graduation good?Nifty_Shark

And I'll chime in that it is better than those as well. Graduation is nothing compared to this.

lol i don't know about that. it's new, it sounds great, let's give it a little more time though...

[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]better than graduation but not as good as CD and LR

lazerface216

And I'll chime in that it is better than those as well. Graduation is nothing compared to this.

lol i don't know about that. it's new, it sounds great, let's give it a little more time though...

Fine but so far it's my favorite album of the year.

[QUOTE="Proobie44"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Kanye West, although egotistical and a gigantic ***** still makes great music. and the mainstream in in genre sucks. mainstream rock sucks. there are plenty of great rappers outside of what you hear on the radio mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="Proobie44"]So kanye's new album is awesome? How good is it? Like Graduation good?flash_drive

[QUOTE="flash_drive"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]better than graduation but not as good as CD and LR

mems_1224

Ok, give it like, 2 or 3 days.

If you still don't think its better, then your taste in Kanye West albums is questionable. :P

[QUOTE="flash_drive"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]better than graduation but not as good as CD and LR

mems_1224

Wasn't aware that Ice-T had a GS account...

Rap these days is a total joke. It's not even real rap. This is real hip hop. All you kids out there take a history lesson right now nothing today or in recent years touches the old school real deal hip hop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TN-kDEKxF0

MortgageMan007

▲ I liked the first one, but thats it. ▲

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjOXkpcXtKc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_W_x3nclY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGMddo0aFo

New rap is great.

there is a movement in hip hop thats about to surface. trust me, real mcs wont stay underground for too much longer. the people are sick of hearing garbage... and slowly the real mcs are starting to come back. hip hop is still young in terms of its lifespan.. it will have luls and drops when the music isnt hard but eventually it will reagain its meaning... struggle.. and overcoming thoseobsticles to acheive greatness.

remember its always darkest before the dawn

There were a bunch of terrible rappers from the 80s and 90s. You're just on a nostalgia trip thinking everything today doesn't compare. It happens in every genre

Your lack of 'SugarHill Gang' in a real hip hop thread is disturbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKYkDwzi-FI&feature=related

Click the link on my sig

You gotta stop remembering the old days, hip hop is underground now and there are some good rappers today but you probably never heard of them

The New Rap Language will always triumph over everything ;)

I think you need to take a history lesson about how rap always goes through a phase of garbage music. It's been done in the past before and just because you'd rather listen to the radio and hear Waka Flocka doesn't mean there aren't any other decent rappers out there. Just give it time, watch you'll hear actually decent music on the radio for a couple of years, then it'll all repeat all over again.

You're implying that eyedea was bad, which is just wrong.

My contribution: Company Flowmonkeymoose5000

the greatest contribution anyone could possibly give...

[QUOTE="monkeymoose5000"]My contribution: Company Flowlazerface216

the greatest contribution anyone could possibly give...

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="monkeymoose5000"]My contribution: Company Flowmonkeymoose5000

the greatest contribution anyone could possibly give...

i agree. el-p is on a whole other level from anyone else in hip hop, it's not even fair. he's so far ahead of the game, everyone else just playing catch up...

[QUOTE="monkeymoose5000"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

the greatest contribution anyone could possibly give...

lazerface216

i agree. el-p is on a whole other level from anyone else in hip hop, it's not even fair. he's so far ahead of the game, everyone else just playing catch up...

I was lurking in this thread for a bit. I wasn't going to post because the whole it's old= good and new= crap is getting a little old. But just wanted to throw some love to El-P too. Tasmanian Pain Coaster is one of my favorites. Also El-P in Company Flow was amazing. The only groups off the top of my head I like more then them are Hieroglypics and Doomtree.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="monkeymoose5000"]El-P is such a beast it's crazy. Another, more recent contribution (2009): GhettosockstheycallmeRP

i agree. el-p is on a whole other level from anyone else in hip hop, it's not even fair. he's so far ahead of the game, everyone else just playing catch up...

I was lurking in this thread for a bit. I wasn't going to post because the whole it's old= good and new= crap is getting a little old. But just wanted to throw some love to El-P too. Tasmanian Pain Coaster is one of my favorites. Also El-P in Company Flow was amazing. The only groups off the top of my head I like more then them are Hieroglypics and Doomtree.

it's nice to see some fellow el-p fans on this board. check out fantastic damage if you haven't already, that record changed my entire view on what hip hop is capable of. truly mind blowing. he just released a new instrumental album this year too, weareallgoingtoburninhellmegamixx3. great stuff.

[QUOTE="theycallmeRP"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

i agree. el-p is on a whole other level from anyone else in hip hop, it's not even fair. he's so far ahead of the game, everyone else just playing catch up...

lazerface216

I was lurking in this thread for a bit. I wasn't going to post because the whole it's old= good and new= crap is getting a little old. But just wanted to throw some love to El-P too. Tasmanian Pain Coaster is one of my favorites. Also El-P in Company Flow was amazing. The only groups off the top of my head I like more then them are Hieroglypics and Doomtree.

it's nice to see some fellow el-p fans on this board. check out fantastic damage if you haven't already, that record changed my entire view on what hip hop is capable of. truly mind blowing. he just released a new instrumental album this year too, weareallgoingtoburninhellmegamixx3. great stuff.

Got that one too :D

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="theycallmeRP"]

I was lurking in this thread for a bit. I wasn't going to post because the whole it's old= good and new= crap is getting a little old. But just wanted to throw some love to El-P too. Tasmanian Pain Coaster is one of my favorites. Also El-P in Company Flow was amazing. The only groups off the top of my head I like more then them are Hieroglypics and Doomtree.

theycallmeRP

it's nice to see some fellow el-p fans on this board. check out fantastic damage if you haven't already, that record changed my entire view on what hip hop is capable of. truly mind blowing. he just released a new instrumental album this year too, weareallgoingtoburninhellmegamixx3. great stuff.

Got that one too :D

nice. 8)

F*** lil wayne mr. extreme ear pain

This is the real s***, now thats what im talking about!