New studies: Conspiracy theorists sane, while government dupes are crazy...

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

I wouldn't call government apologists crazy but I would call them delusional. 

LJS9502_basic

People need to understand that they can love their country without loving the government...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="junglist101"]

I wouldn't call government apologists crazy but I would call them delusional. 

junglist101

People need to understand that they can love their country without loving the government...

People are complacent because there is food, there is air, there are clothes, there is porn, and there is TV.  Money supply is slightly shorter thanks to a recession, but it hasn't 'hit home.'  They wait until the problem hits them in the face personally...only then do they reflect.  Take away the internet or TV hit shows and all their conveniences, and THEN they might care.

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

Still no comment on my post.

LJS9502_basic

But all the source is essentially doing is quoting the former head of the American visa bureau, Michael Springman.  I don't see how it's spinning anything.  

Seems like you would rather just try and find any fault with the source rather than just read what it's presenting.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Higher education is usually a great thing.  Unfortunately, it tends to make many people arrogant and closed-minded, because they learned a bunch of supposed facts, and not how to think for themselves.  That's actually a paraphrase from a former history teacher of mine.

HoolaHoopMan

On the contrary, I think it helps one understand the context of the 'facts' that they're learning.  One understands to study their source material and analyze it in a fashion which is more open minded.  

Probably the reason why the vast majority of archaeologists and people who study classical near eastern studies don't find the idea of ancient aliens to be well founded.  There's a reason why they don't teach it in universities.  We only hear about it because its a neat sounding theory, mostly good for fiction and television ratings. 

The other option is that the majority of people, well-educated or not, are generally blind and stupid.  That fits in better with what I see every day.  

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Higher education is usually a great thing.  Unfortunately, it tends to make many people arrogant and closed-minded, because they learned a bunch of supposed facts, and not how to think for themselves.  That's actually a paraphrase from a former history teacher of mine.

hartsickdiscipl

On the contrary, I think it helps one understand the context of the 'facts' that they're learning.  One understands to study their source material and analyze it in a fashion which is more open minded.  

Probably the reason why the vast majority of archaeologists and people who study classical near eastern studies don't find the idea of ancient aliens to be well founded.  There's a reason why they don't teach it in universities.  We only hear about it because its a neat sounding theory, mostly good for fiction and television ratings. 

The other option is that the majority of people, well-educated or not, are generally blind and stupid.  That fits in better with what I see every day.  

It fits better with you because it supports something that makes real life into some bizzare amazing fantasy that you already believe

I'm sure that even if some of these theories were confirmed true by their originators, people still wouldn't believe it simply because they wouldn't want to.  They would rather live thinking that the government is never at fault and we should never check them.  Oh the founding fathers would be so proud.

I got about one paragraph into that article and started to laugh.  Because a lot of nutcases like to post their irrational views on the internet, they're now the majority.  Or else - my theory - normal people think they're too screwy to even bother replying to.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

Still no comment on my post.

Jagged3dge

But all the source is essentially doing is quoting the former head of the American visa bureau, Michael Springman.  I don't see how it's spinning anything.  

Seems like you would rather just try and find any fault with the source rather than just read what it's presenting.

wis3boi

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Higher education is usually a great thing.  Unfortunately, it tends to make many people arrogant and closed-minded, because they learned a bunch of supposed facts, and not how to think for themselves.  That's actually a paraphrase from a former history teacher of mine.

mattbbpl

On the contrary, I think it helps one understand the context of the 'facts' that they're learning.  One understands to study their source material and analyze it in a fashion which is more open minded.  

Probably the reason why the vast majority of archaeologists and people who study classical near eastern studies don't find the idea of ancient aliens to be well founded.  There's a reason why they don't teach it in universities.  We only hear about it because its a neat sounding theory, mostly good for fiction and television ratings. 

There's nothing wrong with education, as long as the information is correct.  Unfortunately the people dispensing the information are motivated primarily by greed and a desire for personal advancement.  That's the case with most humans.  This is why we are still in the state that we are.    

I'm going to laugh so hard when those who ridicule find out that Ancient Astronaut Theory was the truth all along.  No, I don't have anything sitting on my desk in front of me that most here would accept as absolute proof.  You can keep laughing and closing your eyes to information that people try to present.  You can dismiss things out of hand that might completely change your view.  Most of you just aren't all that smart, so it doesn't mean that much to hear you reject something because you think it's silly, or it didn't come from your preselected acceptable sources of information.  It just reminds me of why humans are still killing each other and acting like savages where it counts.  All of the technology in the world hasn't solved that basic problem.  Instead, it has made us arrogant and delusional, by and large.

Contrary to what many people think, my belief in Ancient Astronaut Theory and a few other oft ridiculed ideas doesn't mean that I think the world is flat.  My belief doesn't mean that I think Elvis is still alive.  Do I reject the possbility that he might be?  No.  I wasn't there to see what happened in 1977, so I would be foolish to say with 100% certainty that he is dead.  That's the difference between people who truly keep an open mind, and those who don't.  Listen to everything, but believe nothing absolutely.  Weigh each piece of information against your own gut instinct, education, and lastly, your world view.  Always remember that your world view might be way off the mark.  

When you see the types of actions that political and military leaders and are willing to take, are some of the ideas that you ridicule really that crazy?  Is it the idea that's crazy, or the fact that a human being would really do that to others?  I ask this, because we know damn well that people are that mean, evil, and crazy when they get power and control.  History teaches us that.  Is is really crazy to think that people with the resources and the motivation might actually get together and make big plans?  Of course not.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

On the contrary, I think it helps one understand the context of the 'facts' that they're learning.  One understands to study their source material and analyze it in a fashion which is more open minded.  

Probably the reason why the vast majority of archaeologists and people who study classical near eastern studies don't find the idea of ancient aliens to be well founded.  There's a reason why they don't teach it in universities.  We only hear about it because its a neat sounding theory, mostly good for fiction and television ratings. 

wis3boi

The other option is that the majority of people, well-educated or not, are generally blind and stupid.  That fits in better with what I see every day.  

It fits better with you because it supports something that makes real life into some bizzare amazing fantasy that you already believe

Truth is stranger than fiction.  That's not just a saying.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="junglist101"]

I wouldn't call government apologists crazy but I would call them delusional. 

junglist101

People need to understand that they can love their country without loving the government...

I love everything you just said.  That last line is something that is really tough for a lot of people to wrap their heads around.  

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Not a very good source TBH. If you can provide a better source we can talk. But that source seems to take little things and spin them to an overall opinion of the author. That's generally not what one considers facts.LJS9502_basic

But all the source is essentially doing is quoting the former head of the American visa bureau, Michael Springman.  I don't see how it's spinning anything.  

Seems like you would rather just try and find any fault with the source rather than just read what it's presenting.

...Dude just look at the points where Michael Springman is directly quoted.  Its a known fact that he's a whistleblower.  You can find that anywhere on the internet, through numerous sources just from a google search.

You're telling me the former head of the American visa bureau isn't a credible source? 

Obviously I'm not going to find the NYTimes article on this, stop being so dense :lol:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

But all the source is essentially doing is quoting the former head of the American visa bureau, Michael Springman.  I don't see how it's spinning anything.  

Seems like you would rather just try and find any fault with the source rather than just read what it's presenting.

Jagged3dge

...Dude just look at the points where Michael Springman is directly quoted.  Its a known fact that he's a whistleblower.  You can find that anywhere on the internet, through numerous sources just from a google search.

You're telling me the former head of the American visa bureau isn't a credible source? 

Obviously I'm not going to find the NYTimes article on this, stop being so dense :lol:

He's hopeless.  His standing with the OT "in crowd" would be threatened if he were to listen to anything that wasn't on Anderson Cooper or in the Huffington Post.  Ok, that's not fair... MSNBC would be acceptable.  

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The problem with that term is that anyone that doesn't feel the same way....or questions another person....gets called an apologist. Just because they don't fly off the deep end over the government does not actually make them an apologist.hartsickdiscipl

People need to understand that they can love their country without loving the government...

I love everything you just said.  That last line is something that is really tough for a lot of people to wrap their heads around.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

But all the source is essentially doing is quoting the former head of the American visa bureau, Michael Springman.  I don't see how it's spinning anything.  

Seems like you would rather just try and find any fault with the source rather than just read what it's presenting.

Jagged3dge

...Dude just look at the points where Michael Springman is directly quoted.  Its a known fact that he's a whistleblower.  You can find that anywhere on the internet, through numerous sources just from a google search.

You're telling me the former head of the American visa bureau isn't a credible source? 

Obviously I'm not going to find the NYTimes article on this, stop being so dense :lol:

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'm not trying anything. It was an opinion piece. I'm not going to believe an opinion just because someone has said opinion. Where are your sources?LJS9502_basic

...Dude just look at the points where Michael Springman is directly quoted.  Its a known fact that he's a whistleblower.  You can find that anywhere on the internet, through numerous sources just from a google search.

You're telling me the former head of the American visa bureau isn't a credible source? 

Obviously I'm not going to find the NYTimes article on this, stop being so dense :lol:

It's illogical to expect to have more than one source for everything.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]At this point I would consider anyone who is not critical of our government an apologist.  Our government is absolutely out of control on so many levels and really hasn't done anything worthy of praise in years.  All they've done is take away rights and disregard the constitution.  Just read the news today we are at the brink of war with a nation that is no threat to us on grounds that are less certain than the supposed WMD's in the lead up to Iraq.  We're back up to our old bullshit of helping terrorists in the hopes of gaining a foothold in yet another country that no one gives a shit about.  Another war no one wants which will no doubt benefit defense contractors and corporations who have ties with the government. 

People need to understand that they can love their country without loving the government...

LJS9502_basic

I love everything you just said.  That last line is something that is really tough for a lot of people to wrap their heads around.  

Of course they're not behind everything.  I'm fairly confident that the US government played no role in the traffic jam that made me late the other day.  They probably didn't take my favorite guitar pick out of my case.  

Hopefully the people in between are the most sane. One can still question the government without jumping on the Alex Jones crazy train.DaBrainz

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

...Dude just look at the points where Michael Springman is directly quoted.  Its a known fact that he's a whistleblower.  You can find that anywhere on the internet, through numerous sources just from a google search.

You're telling me the former head of the American visa bureau isn't a credible source? 

Obviously I'm not going to find the NYTimes article on this, stop being so dense :lol:

hartsickdiscipl

It's illogical to expect to have more than one source for everything.  

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'm not trying anything. It was an opinion piece. I'm not going to believe an opinion just because someone has said opinion. Where are your sources?LJS9502_basic

...Dude just look at the points where Michael Springman is directly quoted.  Its a known fact that he's a whistleblower.  You can find that anywhere on the internet, through numerous sources just from a google search.

You're telling me the former head of the American visa bureau isn't a credible source? 

Obviously I'm not going to find the NYTimes article on this, stop being so dense :lol:

I know how this goes.  I give you a list of sources and then you proceed to tell me each one is biased and not credible.  Yeah right, I've seen this game many times.  

Are you trying to argue that the source is making up these quotes?  Here is Mr. Springman, the man that worked for the US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate saying this stuff first hand.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSebMjd50u0&list=PLWR8xzFzuQNsQiI1wBaVpZ453TPZz3Q1U&index=1

But he's not credible right?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

The other option is that the majority of people, well-educated or not, are generally blind and stupid.  That fits in better with what I see every day.  

hartsickdiscipl

It fits better with you because it supports something that makes real life into some bizzare amazing fantasy that you already believe

Truth is stranger than fiction.  That's not just a saying.  

this doesnt do aliens any justice...it's just indistinguishable from insanity

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

...Dude just look at the points where Michael Springman is directly quoted.  Its a known fact that he's a whistleblower.  You can find that anywhere on the internet, through numerous sources just from a google search.

You're telling me the former head of the American visa bureau isn't a credible source? 

Obviously I'm not going to find the NYTimes article on this, stop being so dense :lol:

Jagged3dge

I know how this goes.  I give you a list of sources and then you proceed to tell me each one is biased and not credible.  Yeah right, I've seen this game many times.  

Are you trying to argue that the source is making up these quotes?  Here is Mr. Springman, the man that worked for the US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate saying this stuff first hand.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSebMjd50u0&list=PLWR8xzFzuQNsQiI1wBaVpZ453TPZz3Q1U&index=1

But he's not credible right?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

...Dude just look at the points where Michael Springman is directly quoted.  Its a known fact that he's a whistleblower.  You can find that anywhere on the internet, through numerous sources just from a google search.

You're telling me the former head of the American visa bureau isn't a credible source? 

Obviously I'm not going to find the NYTimes article on this, stop being so dense :lol:

Jagged3dge

I know how this goes.  I give you a list of sources and then you proceed to tell me each one is biased and not credible.  Yeah right, I've seen this game many times.  

Are you trying to argue that the source is making up these quotes?  Here is Mr. Springman, the man that worked for the US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate saying this stuff first hand.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSebMjd50u0&list=PLWR8xzFzuQNsQiI1wBaVpZ453TPZz3Q1U&index=1

But he's not credible right?

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If it's factual....you should be able to find more than one source. If you can't.....maybe you stop and ask yourself why.LJS9502_basic

I know how this goes.  I give you a list of sources and then you proceed to tell me each one is biased and not credible.  Yeah right, I've seen this game many times.  

Are you trying to argue that the source is making up these quotes?  Here is Mr. Springman, the man that worked for the US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate saying this stuff first hand.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSebMjd50u0&list=PLWR8xzFzuQNsQiI1wBaVpZ453TPZz3Q1U&index=1

But he's not credible right?

How could he, he was fired from the State Department after his complaints.

But you would rather believe that this man is lying about working for the Bureau and once again lying about these events.  And for the sake of what? This guy worked in the government for 10+ years.  

Didn't the federal government simply give you their "word" about what took place? (All while shoving a bill through Congress and justifying a war) Yet they're so credible :lol: 

I'm wondering who's really brainwashed here.

That article is absolutely laughable in its logic.

worlock77

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

I know how this goes.  I give you a list of sources and then you proceed to tell me each one is biased and not credible.  Yeah right, I've seen this game many times.  

Are you trying to argue that the source is making up these quotes?  Here is Mr. Springman, the man that worked for the US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate saying this stuff first hand.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSebMjd50u0&list=PLWR8xzFzuQNsQiI1wBaVpZ453TPZz3Q1U&index=1

But he's not credible right?

Jagged3dge

How could he, he was fired from the State Department after his complaints.

But you would rather believe that this man is lying about working for the Bureau and once again lying about these events.  And for the sake of what? This guy worked in the government for 10+ years.  

Didn't the federal government simply give you their "word" about what took place? (All while shoving a bill through Congress and justifying a war) Yet they're so credible :lol: 

I'm wondering who's really brainwashed here.

And this is why I find conspiracy theorists to be crazy.

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Does he provide documentation?  If it's just his word....then no, I would not consider it credible.

LJS9502_basic

How could he, he was fired from the State Department after his complaints.

But you would rather believe that this man is lying about working for the Bureau and once again lying about these events.  And for the sake of what? This guy worked in the government for 10+ years.  

Didn't the federal government simply give you their "word" about what took place? (All while shoving a bill through Congress and justifying a war) Yet they're so credible :lol: 

I'm wondering who's really brainwashed here.

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If it's factual....you should be able to find more than one source. If you can't.....maybe you stop and ask yourself why.chaplainDMK

I know how this goes.  I give you a list of sources and then you proceed to tell me each one is biased and not credible.  Yeah right, I've seen this game many times.  

Are you trying to argue that the source is making up these quotes?  Here is Mr. Springman, the man that worked for the US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate saying this stuff first hand.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSebMjd50u0&list=PLWR8xzFzuQNsQiI1wBaVpZ453TPZz3Q1U&index=1

But he's not credible right?

He states that he tried to go to major presses and they all wanted nothing to do with it. The media doesn't just put anything out...Keep in mind what this man's claims are challening here. If you would just watch the video.  

Besides I can't tell you if the man is alive today or not.  I don't think anyone is aware of his where abouts.

You just can't win.  

Ignorance is bliss.

You just can't win.  

Ignorance is bliss.

Jagged3dge

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

You just can't win.  

Ignorance is bliss.

LJS9502_basic

Yeah man I could say the same for you. I'm sure random Arab men hijacked planes using boxcutters and pulled off amazing plane executions in such a short time.  That's all the evidence I need to believe.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

You just can't win.  

Ignorance is bliss.

Jagged3dge

Yeah man I could say the same for you. I'm sure random Arab men hijacked planes using boxcutters and pulled off amazing plane executions in such a short time.  That's all the evidence I need to believe.

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] This is what I think is the problem with conspiracy theorists....too busy wanting to believe that they ignore everything that shows the lie.LJS9502_basic

Yeah man I could say the same for you. I'm sure random Arab men hijacked planes using boxcutters and pulled off amazing plane executions in such a short time.  That's all the evidence I need to believe.

Mind if I see this evidence?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

Yeah man I could say the same for you. I'm sure random Arab men hijacked planes using boxcutters and pulled off amazing plane executions in such a short time.  That's all the evidence I need to believe.

Jagged3dge

Mind if I see this evidence?

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Higher education is usually a great thing.  Unfortunately, it tends to make many people arrogant and closed-minded, because they learned a bunch of supposed facts, and not how to think for themselves.  That's actually a paraphrase from a former history teacher of mine.

hartsickdiscipl

On the contrary, I think it helps one understand the context of the 'facts' that they're learning.  One understands to study their source material and analyze it in a fashion which is more open minded.  

Probably the reason why the vast majority of archaeologists and people who study classical near eastern studies don't find the idea of ancient aliens to be well founded.  There's a reason why they don't teach it in universities.  We only hear about it because its a neat sounding theory, mostly good for fiction and television ratings. 

The other option is that the majority of people, well-educated or not, are generally blind and stupid.  That fits in better with what I see every day.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

I know how this goes.  I give you a list of sources and then you proceed to tell me each one is biased and not credible.  Yeah right, I've seen this game many times.  

Are you trying to argue that the source is making up these quotes?  Here is Mr. Springman, the man that worked for the US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate saying this stuff first hand.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSebMjd50u0&list=PLWR8xzFzuQNsQiI1wBaVpZ453TPZz3Q1U&index=1

But he's not credible right?

Jagged3dge

How could he, he was fired from the State Department after his complaints.

But you would rather believe that this man is lying about working for the Bureau and once again lying about these events.  And for the sake of what? This guy worked in the government for 10+ years.  

Didn't the federal government simply give you their "word" about what took place? (All while shoving a bill through Congress and justifying a war) Yet they're so credible :lol: 

I'm wondering who's really brainwashed here.

lol

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If it's factual....you should be able to find more than one source. If you can't.....maybe you stop and ask yourself why.LJS9502_basic

It's illogical to expect to have more than one source for everything.  

An intelligent person should look at the content and context of the report, and the nature of the single source to determine if it is most likely fact.  To simply say that it's not fact because there is only one source is stupidity at it's finest.  You can continue to knock people like Alex Jones, but he repeatedly puts out information that ends up coming out weeks and months later in the dinosaur media, often after it's too late.  Then people say "Well he got lucky" or "he was right, but what happened is actually not that bad," etc...  It's the same thing, over and over.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

On the contrary, I think it helps one understand the context of the 'facts' that they're learning.  One understands to study their source material and analyze it in a fashion which is more open minded.  

Probably the reason why the vast majority of archaeologists and people who study classical near eastern studies don't find the idea of ancient aliens to be well founded.  There's a reason why they don't teach it in universities.  We only hear about it because its a neat sounding theory, mostly good for fiction and television ratings. 

HoolaHoopMan

The other option is that the majority of people, well-educated or not, are generally blind and stupid.  That fits in better with what I see every day.  

Keep laughing.  

An intelligent person should look at the content and context of the report, and the nature of the single source to determine if it is most likely fact.  To simply say that it's not fact because there is only one source is stupidity at it's finest.  You can continue to knock people like Alex Jones, but he repeatedly puts out information that ends up coming out weeks and months later in the dinosaur media, often after it's too late.  Then people say "Well he got lucky" or "he was right, but what happened is actually not that bad," etc...  It's the same thing, over and over.  

hartsickdiscipl

Alex Jones is a businessman, not a whistle-blower. His job is to entertain and brainwash people into buying products his store sells. 

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

An intelligent person should look at the content and context of the report, and the nature of the single source to determine if it is most likely fact.  To simply say that it's not fact because there is only one source is stupidity at it's finest.  You can continue to knock people like Alex Jones, but he repeatedly puts out information that ends up coming out weeks and months later in the dinosaur media, often after it's too late.  Then people say "Well he got lucky" or "he was right, but what happened is actually not that bad," etc...  It's the same thing, over and over.  

nomsayin

Alex Jones is a businessman, not a whistle-blower. His job is to entertain and brainwash people into buying products his store sells. 

I won't deny that he needs to make money to stay on the air.  What's your point?  

[QUOTE="nomsayin"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

An intelligent person should look at the content and context of the report, and the nature of the single source to determine if it is most likely fact.  To simply say that it's not fact because there is only one source is stupidity at it's finest.  You can continue to knock people like Alex Jones, but he repeatedly puts out information that ends up coming out weeks and months later in the dinosaur media, often after it's too late.  Then people say "Well he got lucky" or "he was right, but what happened is actually not that bad," etc...  It's the same thing, over and over.  

hartsickdiscipl

Alex Jones is a businessman, not a whistle-blower. His job is to entertain and brainwash people into buying products his store sells. 

I won't deny that he needs to make money to stay on the air.  What's your point?  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="nomsayin"]

Alex Jones is a businessman, not a whistle-blower. His job is to entertain and brainwash people into buying products his store sells. 

nomsayin

I won't deny that he needs to make money to stay on the air.  What's your point?  

He definitely has a particular world view, which I feel is supported by what I see as well.  They are usually not "his products," as he has a lot of sponsors.  They are their products.  I think he CAN be trusted, because I know people who have met the guy, and said he is a stand-up human being... Much more than most people.  The things that he says ring true to me.  His values are compatible with my own.  He is sincere.  Those are things that I can't say for others that I see and hear.  

Skepticism will always be a mark of sanity. Believing that aliens built the pyramids and are controlling our weather however is a bit ridiculous.

People are markedly stupid when they accept words as fact without any truths behind them. It's a shame that a lot of newscasting comes down to scamming minds like that solely because it gets the editors and higher-ups big bucks. There's not much more to it than that.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

The other option is that the majority of people, well-educated or not, are generally blind and stupid.  That fits in better with what I see every day.  

hartsickdiscipl

Keep laughing.  

We will, it deserves to be mocked

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] 'Its not me, everyone else is blind!' Classic hart. wis3boi

Keep laughing.  

We will, it deserves to be mocked

I love people like you.  You remind me of what I never want to be like.  

Skepticism will always be a mark of sanity. Believing that aliens built the pyramids and are controlling our weather however is a bit ridiculous.

People are markedly stupid when they accept words as fact without any truths behind them. It's a shame that a lot of newscasting comes down to scamming minds like that solely because it gets the editors and higher-ups big bucks. There's not much more to it than that.

Saturos3091

Skepticism?  Yes..  Denial and lack of comprehension once information has been presented?  No...

This is mildly related halfway through, but an interesting article with a lot of statistics to back it up. It talks about pharmaceuticals, society, and mental illness.

Doubt any of you guys will read it but figured I'd post it nonetheless.

Authoritarian hierarchy sounds about right.