New World Order and G20

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Ok facts, tell me this isn't true and gordon brown didn't say new world order.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6277747.stm

Video. Link

Here's a hint: a new world order isn't necessarily THE New World Order. Brown wasn't talking about some grand conspiracy and that should be obvious, considering that he explains what he is talking about in that very article.

Another fact.

Tell me this man doesn't say new world order.

Tony blair

Tell me this man doesn't say it either.

Bush

or this man.

Bill clinton

Same, same, same. Do you honestly think that world leaders mentioning "new world order" means it will happen? Means that they're talking about THE New World Order? So I suppose if somebody says "depression" you assume they're about the big Depression?

Mind_Mover

All this is is spinning the meaning of words and jumping to conclusions. And once again: Inflation completely prevents the conspiracy kind of New World Order (capital "N," "W," "O") from existing. Your guys talk about revamping global policies on international security and relations; that's IT.

My argument deals with your links. A mature person can argue without links; can recognise that links do not make an argument; can understand the difference between a new world order and THE New World Order.

And this is why you're mocked.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Ok facts, tell me this isn't true and gordon brown didn't say new world order.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6277747.stm

Video. Link

Here's a hint: a new world order isn't necessarily THE New World Order. Brown wasn't talking about some grand conspiracy and that should be obvious, considering that he explains what he is talking about in that very article.

Another fact.

Tell me this man doesn't say new world order.

Tony blair

Tell me this man doesn't say it either.

Bush

or this man.

Bill clinton

Same, same, same. Do you honestly think that world leaders mentioning "new world order" means it will happen? Means that they're talking about THE New World Order? So I suppose if somebody says "depression" you assume they're about the big Depression?

Mind_Mover

All this is is spinning the meaning of words and jumping to conclusions. And once again: Inflation completely prevents the conspiracy kind of New World Order (capital "N," "W," "O") from existing. Your guys talk about revamping global policies on international security and relations; that's IT.

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Mind_Mover

Because people have been planning this since the dollar was created. :lol:

You know what else is on the Dollar? "In God we trust." God exists!

Oh, and by the way, all that means is ""He approves our undertaking(s)".

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

All this is is spinning the meaning of words and jumping to conclusions. And once again: Inflation completely prevents the conspiracy kind of New World Order (capital "N," "W," "O") from existing. Your guys talk about revamping global policies on international security and relations; that's IT.

thepwninator

:lol: the internet

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Mind_Mover

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Theokhoth

Because people have been planning this since the dollar was created. :lol:

You know what else is on the Dollar? "In God we trust." God exists!

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

supercubedude64

Novus, nuevo, new

Ordo, orden, order

Seclurum, singular, singular

Latin -> spanish -> english

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]no links = no argument.

Mind_Mover

:lol: the internet

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Mind_Mover

Novus, nuevo, new

Ordo, orden, order

Seclurum, singular, singular

Latin -> spanish -> english

No, Latin would be Novus Ordo Mundi. Novus Ordo Seclurum means New Order of the Ages. :lol:

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Mind_Mover

Novus, nuevo, new

Ordo, orden, order

Seclurum, singular, singular

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Theokhoth

Because people have been planning this since the dollar was created. :lol:

You know what else is on the Dollar? "In God we trust." God exists!

Oh, and by the way, all that means is ""He approves our undertaking(s)".

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Mind_Mover

Because people have been planning this since the dollar was created. :lol:

You know what else is on the Dollar? "In God we trust." God exists!

Novus Ordo Seclurum = New Order of the Ages, not New World Order.

Debunked.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"] It's in Latin, it must be something sinister. Nevermind that "novus ordo seclurum" doesn't mean "new world order."Theokhoth

Novus, nuevo, new

Ordo, orden, order

Seclurum, singular, singular

Latin -> spanish -> english

No, Latin would be Novus Ordo Mundi. Novus Ordo Seclurum means New Order of the Ages. :lol:

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Mind_Mover

Because people have been planning this since the dollar was created. :lol:

You know what else is on the Dollar? "In God we trust." God exists!

Oh, and by the way, all that means is ""He approves our undertaking(s)".

Annuit Coeptis: "He Approves Our undertakings."

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Its even on the dollar bill.

Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclurum.

Proof in your pocket.

Mind_Mover

Novus, nuevo, new

Ordo, orden, order

Seclurum, singular, singular

Latin -> spanish -> english

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

Novus, nuevo, new

Ordo, orden, order

Seclurum, singular, singular

Latin -> spanish -> english

Mind_Mover

No, Latin would be Novus Ordo Mundi. Novus Ordo Seclurum means New Order of the Ages. :lol:

No, it wouldn't. The New Order of the Ages symbolises the American success and the new step into Western civilisation; not some grand, centuries-long conspiracy theory.

Learn logic, learn Latin, and learn symbology.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Because people have been planning this since the dollar was created. :lol:

You know what else is on the Dollar? "In God we trust." God exists!

Theokhoth

Novus Ordo Seclurum = New Order of the Ages, not New World Order.

Debunked.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

No, Latin would be Novus Ordo Mundi. Novus Ordo Seclurum means New Order of the Ages. :lol:

Theokhoth

No, it wouldn't. The New Order of the Ages symbolises the American success and the new step into Western civilisation; not some grand, centuries-long conspiracy theory.

Learn logic, learn Latin, and learn symbology.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"] Video tell me its fake, and debunk it.

Mind_Mover

Novus Ordo Seclurum = New Order of the Ages, not New World Order.

Debunked.

Wait, how do you know that's what it'd be called in old times? Five minutes ago you were arguing that they called it "New World Order" in old times!:lol:

NWO is as factual as Dan Brown's Illuminati. People haven't been cooking this up for hundreds of years. :lol:

I still don't see anybody addressing the ever-present fact that inflation would bring us back to the Dark Ages should the NWO be enacted.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Novus Ordo Seclurum = New Order of the Ages, not New World Order.

Debunked.

Theokhoth

Wait, how do you know that's what it'd be called in old times? Five minutes ago you were arguing that they called it "New World Order" in old times!:lol:

NWO is as factual as Dan Brown's Illuminati. People haven't been cooking this up for hundreds of years. :lol:

I still don't see anybody addressing the ever-present fact that inflation would bring us back to the Dark Ages should the NWO be enacted.

Theokhoth

New world order

New order of the ages

Tell me the difference in the meaning.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I still don't see anybody addressing the ever-present fact that inflation would bring us back to the Dark Ages should the NWO be enacted.

-Sun_Tzu-

Well, it's actually on the back of the dollar. The Latin means, "World Doomed to Mole Men." It's right there in the Latin. I know it's true because I saw it in a youtube video. It was a slicky animated video, so I know it's credible.

New world order

New order of the ages

Tell me the difference in the meaning.

Mind_Mover

I still don't see anybody addressing the ever-present fact that inflation would bring us back to the Dark Ages should the NWO be enacted.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]lol nice try. New world order is what we call it in modern times. In the old days it would be New ordder of the ages. Personally i see no difference.:lol:

Mind_Mover

Wait, how do you know that's what it'd be called in old times? Five minutes ago you were arguing that they called it "New World Order" in old times!:lol:

NWO is as factual as Dan Brown's Illuminati. People haven't been cooking this up for hundreds of years. :lol:

They have said "new world order" to demonstrate the need for an improved international defense and relations with other countries; NOT as a worldwide grand conspiracy theory. I have already told you this, and anybody can see that.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I still don't see anybody addressing the ever-present fact that inflation would bring us back to the Dark Ages should the NWO be enacted.

Mind_Mover

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I still don't see anybody addressing the ever-present fact that inflation would bring us back to the Dark Ages should the NWO be enacted.

supercubedude64

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Wait, how do you know that's what it'd be called in old times? Five minutes ago you were arguing that they called it "New World Order" in old times!:lol:

NWO is as factual as Dan Brown's Illuminati. People haven't been cooking this up for hundreds of years. :lol:

Theokhoth

They have said "new world order" to demonstrate the need for an improved international defense and relations with other countries; NOT as a worldwide grand conspiracy theory. I have already told you this, and anybody can see that.

Now tell me, who has the right to order anyone around, even if their intentions are good?

Why exactly do people have this fascination with secret organizations governing the world or country or so on? It makes for decent stories but not much else.

Do they believe they can do something about it or resist it because they were a bit more observant than the average citizen?

Could someone shed some light onto the trainwreck that is the conspiracy theorist's mind?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]You still havn't told me that my videos are fake, you can't even accept that they say it. You can¡t even say, "yes a new world order is happening" even after people have said it.

Mind_Mover

They have said "new world order" to demonstrate the need for an improved international defense and relations with other countries; NOT as a worldwide grand conspiracy theory. I have already told you this, and anybody can see that.

Now tell me, who has the right to order anyone around, even if their intentions are good?

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I still don't see anybody addressing the ever-present fact that inflation would bring us back to the Dark Ages should the NWO be enacted.

Theokhoth

The NWO can't control without the economy. The economy would collapse should the NWO be enacted. The NWO defeats itself.

Debunking your crap doesn't mean I accept it. :lol: Just like how you debunking your grandmother's crap doesn't mean you think the world is 6,000 years old.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]You still havn't told me that my videos are fake, you can't even accept that they say it. You can¡t even say, "yes a new world order is happening" even after people have said it.

Mind_Mover

They have said "new world order" to demonstrate the need for an improved international defense and relations with other countries; NOT as a worldwide grand conspiracy theory. I have already told you this, and anybody can see that.

Now tell me, who has the right to order anyone around, even if their intentions are good?

Oh, God.

A new world order is not the same as THE New World Order.

What you are arguing now is anarchy, and even THE New World Order is preferable to that. These people run their respective governments and can order those governments' respective defense policies and foreign relations.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]The NWO is about control. You accept it with open arms, but there are many people who don't.

Mind_Mover

The NWO can't control without the economy. The economy would collapse should the NWO be enacted. The NWO defeats itself.

Debunking your crap doesn't mean I accept it. :lol: Just like how you debunking your grandmother's crap doesn't mean you think the world is 6,000 years old.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]The NWO is about control. You accept it with open arms, but there are many people who don't.

Mind_Mover

The NWO can't control without the economy. The economy would collapse should the NWO be enacted. The NWO defeats itself.

Debunking your crap doesn't mean I accept it. :lol: Just like how you debunking your grandmother's crap doesn't mean you think the world is 6,000 years old.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]The NWO is about control. You accept it with open arms, but there are many people who don't.

Mind_Mover

The NWO can't control without the economy. The economy would collapse should the NWO be enacted. The NWO defeats itself.

Debunking your crap doesn't mean I accept it. :lol: Just like how you debunking your grandmother's crap doesn't mean you think the world is 6,000 years old.

Because they can't have any power without you, me or the economy. :lol: It's simple logic: They want something to control, by your logic, so they need something to be there to be controlled. Without it, there is no point. but if they go about trying to control it to the extent that you are saying, they destroy the very thing they want to control making the effort worthless, and it will take them out of whatever power they currently have when the world is thrown into chaos.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

They have said "new world order" to demonstrate the need for an improved international defense and relations with other countries; NOT as a worldwide grand conspiracy theory. I have already told you this, and anybody can see that.

Theokhoth

Now tell me, who has the right to order anyone around, even if their intentions are good?

Oh, God.

A new world order is not the same as THE New World Order.

What you are arguing now is anarchy, and even THE New World Order is preferable to that. These people run their respective governments and can order those governments' respective defense policies and foreign relations.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The NWO can't control without the economy. The economy would collapse should the NWO be enacted. The NWO defeats itself.

Debunking your crap doesn't mean I accept it. :lol: Just like how you debunking your grandmother's crap doesn't mean you think the world is 6,000 years old.

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The NWO can't control without the economy. The economy would collapse should the NWO be enacted. The NWO defeats itself.

Debunking your crap doesn't mean I accept it. :lol: Just like how you debunking your grandmother's crap doesn't mean you think the world is 6,000 years old.

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]What are you talking about? why would these elite who have enough money, even care about you or me or the economy? why are we in this situation in the first place tell me i'd like to know? stupidity from our government? Incompetence? you are seeing with your own eyes, companies that are in real control of our government, little by little you will realize that the fiascos with AIG ,F+F, trillions that we don't have spent on bailouts, given to the very same elite who put us in this position in the first place.

Mind_Mover

Creating an overt NWO would cause massive inflation.

Therefore, their wealth would become worthless, because money would be worth little-to-nothing.

Therefore, their power would be gone.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]What are you talking about? why would these elite who have enough money, even care about you or me or the economy? why are we in this situation in the first place tell me i'd like to know? stupidity from our government? Incompetence? you are seeing with your own eyes, companies that are in real control of our government, little by little you will realize that the fiascos with AIG ,F+F, trillions that we don't have spent on bailouts, given to the very same elite who put us in this position in the first place.

Mind_Mover

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] If they don't care about the economy then why isn't America in Zimbabwe's position right now?-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]They don't care about people. The economy is theirs, they have the money, the banks have all the money, control the money control the people.

Mind_Mover

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]They don't care about people. The economy is theirs, they have the money, the banks have all the money, control the money control the people.

Mind_Mover

This thread exemplifies the very reason why I've stopped debating on this forum. There's no maturity here. Theokoth says mature people can argue without links, but can Theokoth argue maturely? Ridiculing someone, spamming emotes, and arguing abrasively is very unbecoming and quite immature. Theokoth isn't the only one--everyone in this thread is acting like a child. Would I expect any different from a group of testosterone filled 20 year olds?

This NWO stuff holds no credence whatsoever, however, this thread is not conducive towards a mature discussion either.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] That's great but when the money is worth less than a sheet of toilet paper there isn't much you can control with it.-Sun_Tzu-

This thread exemplifies the very reason why I've stopped debating on this forum. There's no maturity here. Theokoth says mature people can argue without links, but can Theokoth argue maturely? Ridiculing someone, spamming emotes, and arguing abrasively is very unbecoming and quite immature. Theokoth isn't the only one--everyone in this thread is acting like a child. Would I expect any different from a group of testosterone filled 20 year olds?

This NWO stuff holds no credence whatsoever, however, this thread is not conducive towards a mature discussion either. This thread should be locked.

VoodooGamer