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#1 gamerbrad1
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Why was there no mets in the All star game?

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#2 FUBAR24
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cause there are much better players out there. My cubies have 7 going :)
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#3 mrgab
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Theres only Billy Wagner, should have at least also Reyes.
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#4 Cube_of_MooN
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I think Reyes should have made it.
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#5 Oleg_Huzwog
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Every team has an all-star.
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#6 gamerbrad1
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there also should be Wright or Beltran
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#7 SaintLeonidas
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GO RED SOXS!!! The AL is going to destroy this year.
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#8 gamerbrad1
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I like the cubs to
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#9 gamerbrad1
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Im suprised that there are more red sox than yankees because the all star game is at yanke stadium
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#10 Ring_of_fire
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Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than Reyes
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#11 gamerbrad1
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did anybody notice that chase utley has been in the all star game 3 straight years
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#12 Ring_of_fire
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there also should be Wright or Beltrangamerbrad1

Beltran is not an allstar this year. Bad BA and only 13 HRs.

You can claim Wright should've gone over A. Ramirez, as a sub, but not over Chipper.

And there is only so many reserve spots open, and you have to include every team

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#13 CrimzonTide
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Because none deserve it...maybe Wright, but the Cubs fans just came out in way more force this year.
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#14 Ring_of_fire
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Because none deserve it...maybe Wright, but the Cubs fans just came out in way more force this year. CrimzonTide

The fans vote for the starters. With Chipper batting .388, he deserves the starter role, and got it.

Wright may slip in as the DH.

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#15 mrgab
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Riddle me this about the all star game - how does Jason Varitek of the red sox make the all star game with that ugly .218 batting average?!
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#16 gamerbrad1
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is david ortiz a DH for the AL I thought he was injured and wasn't able to play
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#17 Ring_of_fire
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is david ortiz a DH for the AL I thought he was injured and wasn't able to playgamerbrad1

He'll be there, but he won't play.

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#18 CrimzonTide
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The fans vote for the starters. With Chipper batting .388, he deserves the starter role, and got it. Wright may slip in as the DH. Ring_of_fire
Yeah, and there is no way you can convince me Fukudome and Soriano deserve to be starting in the outfield. And as for the final player, I'm pulling full out for Pat Burrell, being the Phillie fan I am.
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]The fans vote for the starters. With Chipper batting .388, he deserves the starter role, and got it. Wright may slip in as the DH. CrimzonTide
Yeah, and there is no way you can convince me Fukudome and Soriano deserve to be starting in the outfield. And as for the final player, I'm pulling full out for Pat Burrell, being the Phillie fan I am.

I'll agree to that. That's what happens when the fans vote......

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I'll agree to that. That's what happens when the fans vote...... Ring_of_fire
Fans shouldn't be allowed to vote. The AL team especially is a disgrace, it's essentialy a Yankees Red Sox combonation team. At least they got Hamilton right...
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#21 gamerbrad1
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whos better AL or NL? Me:NL
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]I'll agree to that. That's what happens when the fans vote...... CrimzonTide
Fans shouldn't be allowed to vote. The AL team especially is a disgrace, it's essentialy a Yankees Red Sox combonation team. At least they got Hamilton right...

I agree and disagree. I think the AS game is about fun, and for the fans primarily.

With that said, with this stupid "Winner gets HOF Advatange" thing, it's too important to be left up to the fans

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#23 gamerbrad1
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Fans only voted for there favorite players.Not whos good

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#24 Oleg_Huzwog
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I agree and disagree. I think the AS game is about fun, and for the fans primarily.

With that said, with this stupid "Winner gets HOF Advatange" thing, it's too important to be left up to the fans

Ring_of_fire

Meh. It's not that big a deal. In baseball, the home team only wins roughly 55% of the time.

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Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than ReyesRing_of_fire
Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than ReyesCube_of_MooN
Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.

And how do they explain Tejada as a backup SS in there, Around .280s batting average with only 10 homers. (plus name in the Mitchell report)

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#27 Cube_of_MooN
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than Reyesmrgab

Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.

And how do they explain Tejada as a backup SS in there, Around .280s batting average with only 10 homers. (plus name in the Mitchell report)

Reyes should have been the backup IMO. I thought the fans would rebel against a player named in the Mitchell Report. I guess not.
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#28 Bauers-Twin
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David Wright might get in, none of them really deserve it, but too many cubs, soto, soriano, etc dont deserve it.

The cubs fans spammed the vote obviously.

Go Phillies!!

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#29 FUBAR24
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did anybody notice that chase utley has been in the all star game 3 straight yearsgamerbrad1

ya and he deserves it year after year

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#30 FUBAR24
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[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]The fans vote for the starters. With Chipper batting .388, he deserves the starter role, and got it. Wright may slip in as the DH. Ring_of_fire

Yeah, and there is no way you can convince me Fukudome and Soriano deserve to be starting in the outfield. And as for the final player, I'm pulling full out for Pat Burrell, being the Phillie fan I am.

I'll agree to that. That's what happens when the fans vote......

Soriano isnt starting. infact he isnt playing. they wont let him risk hurting his hand more since is should be ready to start again after thebreak. and i think Fukudome does deserve it. He has been solid all year

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#31 CrimzonTide
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I agree and disagree. I think the AS game is about fun, and for the fans primarily. With that said, with this stupid "Winner gets HOF Advatange" thing, it's too important to be left up to the fans Ring_of_fire
Then at least let there be a modified list to vote from for the fans, no more injured people like David Ortiz taking away a roster spot, and theoretically the starting nod over Milton Bradly.
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#32 FUBAR24
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David Wright might get in, none of them really deserve it, but too many cubs, soto, soriano, etc dont deserve it.

The cubs fans spammed the vote obviously.

Go Phillies!!

Bauers-Twin

are you kidding Soto is leading many of the rookie standings in the NL, and Fukudome is in the top five in most of them too. Soriano is only going to support the team cause of his injury though. he isnt playing

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Then at least let there be a modified list to vote from for the fans, no more injured people like David Ortiz taking away a roster spot, and theoretically the starting nod over Milton Bradly. CrimzonTide

Yep, the solution is simple: permit league officials to change the names that appear on the ballot. Don't just go with the Opening Day rosters. It's understandable if the paper ballots can't be changed, but there's no reason the online ones can't be tweaked. Allow the league to add the likes of Carlos Quentin

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Yep, the solution is simple: permit league officials to change the names that appear on the ballot. Don't just go with the Opening Day rosters. It's understandable if the paper ballots can't be changed, but there's no reason the online ones can't be tweaked. Allow the league to add the likes of Carlos QuentinOleg_Huzwog
Exactly. Also, the players need to get their act together. Jason Varitek? Seriously?
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Yep, the solution is simple: permit league officials to change the names that appear on the ballot. Don't just go with the Opening Day rosters. It's understandable if the paper ballots can't be changed, but there's no reason the online ones can't be tweaked. Allow the league to add the likes of Carlos QuentinCrimzonTide
Exactly. Also, the players need to get their act together. Jason Varitek? Seriously?

Even as a Red Sox fan I have to admit Varitek is a poor choice.
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#36 CrimzonTide
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Even as a Red Sox fan I have to admit Varitek is a poor choice. Cube_of_MooN
He's hitting about .220. I would take basically any catcher in the AL over him...
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than ReyesCube_of_MooN
Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.

Guzman is leading the league in SS BA. .313. 16 points higher than Reyes who's below .300, with a close OBP.

besides, Guzman is the lone Nats All Star, therefore, Reyes is out.

Even if the Nats had someone else, and Guzman was out, Theriot is more deserving than Reyes

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#38 Ring_of_fire
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]Even as a Red Sox fan I have to admit Varitek is a poor choice. CrimzonTide
He's hitting about .220. I would take basically any catcher in the AL over him...

it's him being "The heart of the team" non-sense

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Exactly. Also, the players need to get their act together. Jason Varitek? Seriously?CrimzonTide

Obviously, Varitek has a reputation for bringing cookies and pie for his teammates. There's no other explanation for him being on the team.

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#40 CrimzonTide
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Obviously, Varitek has a reputation for bringing cookies and pie for his teammates. There's no other explanation for him being on the team.Oleg_Huzwog
That's all I can imagine. Or maybe it's the extremely impressive "C" on his jersey. That means he has to be good.
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#41 cool_baller
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I like the Mets hats.
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That's all I can imagine. Or maybe it's the extremely impressive "C" on his jersey. That means he has to be good. CrimzonTide

That's just a reminder for the laundry guy to use cold water when washing their uniforms.

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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than ReyesRing_of_fire

Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.

Guzman is leading the league in SS BA. .313. 16 points higher than Reyes who's below .300, with a close OBP.

besides, Guzman is the lone Nats All Star, therefore, Reyes is out.

Even if the Nats had someone else, and Guzman was out, Theriot is more deserving than Reyes

Theriot over Reyes? No way. You seem to have a strong dislike for Reyes.
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Obviously, Varitek has a reputation for bringing cookies and pie for his teammates. There's no other explanation for him being on the team.CrimzonTide
That's all I can imagine. Or maybe it's the extremely impressive "C" on his jersey. That means he has to be good.

I'm guessing its due to the fact that the Red Sox are popular, his name is recognizable, and that the crop of AL catchers is weak to begin with, not that Varitek is the best of them by any means.
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#45 CrimzonTide
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I'm guessing its due to the fact that the Red Sox are popular, his name is recognizable, and that the crop of AL catchers is weak to begin with, not that Varitek is the best of them by any means.Cube_of_MooN
I know the group isn't strong, but Pudge and Pierzynski are having solid years. And I would have thought the respect for Pudge would have bee just as great, even if his power numbers are non-existent.
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than ReyesCube_of_MooN

Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.

Guzman is leading the league in SS BA. .313. 16 points higher than Reyes who's below .300, with a close OBP.

besides, Guzman is the lone Nats All Star, therefore, Reyes is out.

Even if the Nats had someone else, and Guzman was out, Theriot is more deserving than Reyes

Theriot over Reyes? No way. You seem to have a strong dislike for Reyes.

Theriot has a higher BA and OBP than Reyes... .313 to .297 and .390 to .357

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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than ReyesCube_of_MooN

Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.

Guzman is leading the league in SS BA. .313. 16 points higher than Reyes who's below .300, with a close OBP.

besides, Guzman is the lone Nats All Star, therefore, Reyes is out.

Even if the Nats had someone else, and Guzman was out, Theriot is more deserving than Reyes

Theriot over Reyes? No way. You seem to have a strong dislike for Reyes.

No. It's the fact there are more deserving players with better stats that make Reyes not an allstar

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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than ReyesRing_of_fire

Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.

Guzman is leading the league in SS BA. .313. 16 points higher than Reyes who's below .300, with a close OBP.

besides, Guzman is the lone Nats All Star, therefore, Reyes is out.

Even if the Nats had someone else, and Guzman was out, Theriot is more deserving than Reyes

Theriot over Reyes? No way. You seem to have a strong dislike for Reyes.

No. It's the fact there are more deserving players with better stats that make Reyes not an allstar

Even this guy on ESPN agrees with me. :x He thinks Reyes over Tejada.

But really though I don't trust ESPN analysts much at all. I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree here. :P

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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Reyes didn't get in simply because He wasn't the best SS in the NL. Ramirez and Guzman are doing better than ReyesCube_of_MooN

Guzman? I disagree. he only has a slightly higher BA than Reyes. Hanley, yah, that's a given that he'll be the starting shortstop.

Guzman is leading the league in SS BA. .313. 16 points higher than Reyes who's below .300, with a close OBP.

besides, Guzman is the lone Nats All Star, therefore, Reyes is out.

Even if the Nats had someone else, and Guzman was out, Theriot is more deserving than Reyes

Theriot over Reyes? No way. You seem to have a strong dislike for Reyes.

No. It's the fact there are more deserving players with better stats that make Reyes not an allstar

Even this guy on ESPN agrees with me. :x He thinks Reyes over Tejada.

But really though I don't trust ESPN analysts much at all. I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree here. :P

well, I'll agree with you that Reyes deserved it far more than Tejada, and it is all a matter of opinion.

I'm just happy Chipper Jones got the nod at starting third base this year.

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#50 Cube_of_MooN
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I'm just happy Chipper Jones got the nod at starting third base this year.

Ring_of_fire
He's a shoe-in with the way he has been playing. I hope he can hit .400, that would be incredible.