New York ranks last in personal freedom

Click here. Sorry for all of my NY OTers

Cool place to visit though.

Wonder what OTliberals think of this

NYC is still the best city in the country.lo_Pine

yeah, i can't lie.

i'm pretty  tempted to load up a u-haul full of cigarettes and sell them for cheap on the streets.

i wouldn't really do it because it is illegal and organized crime is already all over that market but man... the money to be made buying cartons for $45 and selling them for $140 is just insane.

"The study had a catch-all category dubbed Bachelor Party Freedom. It weighed the amount of restriction on gambling, drugs, tobacco, liquor, marijuana, prostitution and fireworks. The study found New York to be a major buzzkill. Tobacco laws are extremely strict, and cigarette taxes are the highest in the country, encouraging the growth of a dangerous black market, the study said." Lol! Damn restrictions on prostitution and drugs = less freedom for NY

Tragic to be ranked last by one university studies with major emphasis on taxes.

NY has taxes. Surprise

Wonder what OTliberals think of this

kingkong0124

Wonder what OTliberals think of this

kingkong0124

Hmm, well here is a link to the actual report for any inclined enough to skim through it: link

Freedom is a nebulous concept. While it tries to show how restrictive some states are in comparison to others by various factors, it doesn't do a good job of defining what it is in lieu of describing privileges citizens are entitled to and how they are restricted in those states.

I thinks it's funny how the more "freedom" a state has the less I want to live there.

Must be because its so Democrat.

[spoiler] I kid!I kid! [/spoiler]

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Wonder what OTliberals think of this

WhiteKnight77

wah! I can't have my 2 leter coke!

This is the largest injustice since slavery!

wah! I can't have my 2 leter coke!

This is the largest injustice since slavery!

MakeMeaSammitch

Just wait until they try and take your liters bro, it hasn't even begun :p

I've still never met anyone from North Dakota. Which is odd because I drove through it...or at least I think I drove through it? Does it even actually exist?Ace6301

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Wonder what OTliberals think of this

NEWMAHAY

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]I've still never met anyone from North Dakota. Which is odd because I drove through it...or at least I think I drove through it? Does it even actually exist?MakeMeaSammitch

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]Interesting question and curious about how they will spin it?WhiteKnight77

but fvck Bloomberg for being such an authoritarian cvnt. Rich3232

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]I've still never met anyone from North Dakota. Which is odd because I drove through it...or at least I think I drove through it? Does it even actually exist?Ace6301

I've still never met anyone from North Dakota. Which is odd because I drove through it...or at least I think I drove through it? Does it even actually exist?Ace6301

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]doesn't that state have one of the highest suicide rates?mattbbpl

Would still prefer to live there instead of some backwoods fly-over state no one cares about.

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]No WhiteKnight77

I had no idea strict laws on gambling, prostitution, and drugs were great ways to knock on personal freedom on NY. For you to say "how they will spin it?", I ASSUMED you know a little something about to study to make a claim (but it seems like you just read the title of the article and assumed things).

Shame on me then.

Typical of OT liberals to take what was said out of context. No study is posted or was posted and the website showing what states have the best and worst personal freedoms shows that most of the liberal states are also the ones with the least amount of personal liberties. Gee, with all the talk about inclusiveness and acceptance, they really go out of their way to not make people feel welcome or free.WhiteKnight77

Liberals and conservatives have a different philosophy on freedom.

If you don't believe me, look at what type of countries are generally on top of the "freest countries" lists. For a conservative, they'll probably puke at all the "restrictions" those countries "impose" on their people.

Considering NYC wanted to outlaw sodas/sugary drinks greater than 16oz, no sh!t.  Also the new gun control law basically banning hand guns

>wanting to live in NYC

lel

Typical of OT liberals to take what was said out of context. No study is posted or was posted and the website showing what states have the best and worst personal freedoms shows that most of the liberal states are also the ones with the least amount of personal liberties. Gee, with all the talk about inclusiveness and acceptance, they really go out of their way to not make people feel welcome or free.WhiteKnight77

Are you an idiot or just willingly ignorant to the most possible extreme, I posted a link to the site where the study is hosted. Don't think it's a study; too bad it's not your call to make. And stop talking with broad generalizations, it only makes you look all the more foolish when you are proven wrong.

 We are thrilled to release the new edition of the Freedom in the 50 States study...Roman Hardgrave

source

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]I've still never met anyone from North Dakota. Which is odd because I drove through it...or at least I think I drove through it? Does it even actually exist?gamerguru100

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]I've still never met anyone from North Dakota. Which is odd because I drove through it...or at least I think I drove through it? Does it even actually exist?Ace6301

out of context. I asked you a question. Did you read the study? Your answer was no but you can keep making assumptions about all the liberals and all the conservatives if you want. You can also call me a liberal because you clearly assumed it (based on me asking you a question about reading the study).

I had no idea strict laws on gambling, prostitution, and drugs were great ways to knock on personal freedom on NY. For you to say "how they will spin it?", I ASSUMED you know a little something about to study to make a claim (but it seems like you just read the title of the article and assumed things).

 

Shame on me then.

NEWMAHAY

No study was posted at the time I posted my reply.me

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]Typical of OT liberals to take what was said out of context. No study is posted or was posted and the website showing what states have the best and worst personal freedoms shows that most of the liberal states are also the ones with the least amount of personal liberties. Gee, with all the talk about inclusiveness and acceptance, they really go out of their way to not make people feel welcome or free.SirWander

Are you an idiot or just willingly ignorant to the most possible extreme, I posted a link to the site where the study is hosted. Don't think it's a study; too bad it's not your call to make. And stop talking with broad generalizations, it only makes you look all the more foolish when you are proven wrong.

 We are thrilled to release the new edition of the Freedom in the 50 States study...Roman Hardgrave

source

Laws about drugs, prostitution and gambling are in place everywhere. That argument is baseless.WhiteKnight77

Why did you assume I was a liberal? I am curious. Based on what?

"North Dakota was ranked as the most free state, followed by South Dakota, Tennessee, New Hampshire and Oklahoma." lol So I guess your options are "be really free in a really dull state" or "put up with high taxes and some stupid laws to live somewhere much better"JML897

Much better? ND has something like 3% unemployment. It's ohviously a much better place to live than NY.

I've still never met anyone from North Dakota. Which is odd because I drove through it...or at least I think I drove through it? Does it even actually exist?Ace6301

Yes. It exists and it's cold.