News: 71 wounded, 12 killed in midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

? April 28, 1996: Martin Bryant, 29, bursts into cafeteria in seaside resort of Port Arthur in Tasmania, Australia, shooting 20 people to death. Driving away, he kills 15 others. He was captured and imprisoned.

We introduced strict gun laws after that and it has never happened since. 16 years without a single mass shooting. How many has the US had this year?

tumbIew33d

That serial killers can kill lots of people over time and building fires are dangerous? Serial killers and mass shootings are different issues. That require different solutions.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Damn, son. That sh*t cray. Real talk. Anyone think that he was motivated by Bane, since Bane is a terrorist?

Omni-Slash

Did I do or say something wrong? I simply asked a question. Think about it. Bane is a terrorist in the film, and the pepertrator committed and act of terrorism. That's not a coincidence. He could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus - both of which are big summer blockbusters like TDKR - but he chose to do it during a viewing of The Dark Knight - a film which just so happens to have a villain that's a terrorist.

Anyhow, how do you think this will affect the film's box-office performance? Maybe people will be too scared to see it. I'm going to see it twice tomorrow; I've got two advanced tickets. If the place gets shot up, then so be it (my life sucks anyway). However, I just hope that the gunman/ gunmen wait until the film is over.

[QUOTE="tumbIew33d"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"] oopsie... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_mass_murdersmattisgod01

That serial killers can kill lots of people over time and building fires are dangerous? Serial killers and mass shootings are different issues. That require different solutions.

Over 60 people shot from one civilian shooting...

This guy has skill.

Over 60 people shot from one civilian shooting...

This guy has skill.

TheFatPerson

That sh*t cray.

did I do or say something wrong? I simply asked a question. Think about it. Bane is a terrorist in the film, and the pepertrator committed and act of terrorism. That's not a coincidence. He could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus - both of which are big summer blockbusters like TDKR - but he chose to do it during a viewing of The Dark Knight - a film which just so happens to have a villain that's a terrorist.

Anyhow, how do you think this will affect the film's box-office performance? Maybe people will be too scared to see it. I'm going to see it twice tomorrow; I've got two advanced tickets. If the place gets shot up, then so be it (my life sucks anyway). However, I just hope that the gunman/ gunmen wait until the film is over.

BluRayHiDef

Over 60 people shot from one civilian shooting...

This guy has skill.

TheFatPerson

Not really. Just a rapid fire weapon, a lot of targets, and a confined area.

Australia doesn't need guns to kill people the abundance of venomous wild life does a fine job by its self.

i had an australian friend who was KILLLED BY A SINGLE ANT.

look up jack jumpe ants.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

did I do or say something wrong? I simply asked a question. Think about it. Bane is a terrorist in the film, and the pepertrator committed and act of terrorism. That's not a coincidence. He could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus - both of which are big summer blockbusters like TDKR - but he chose to do it during a viewing of The Dark Knight - a film which just so happens to have a villain that's a terrorist.

Anyhow, how do you think this will affect the film's box-office performance? Maybe people will be too scared to see it. I'm going to see it twice tomorrow; I've got two advanced tickets. If the place gets shot up, then so be it (my life sucks anyway). However, I just hope that the gunman/ gunmen wait until the film is over.

Omni-Slash

Yo, you need to chill out, my *****. Real talk. Anyhow, this sh*t cray.

I have no interest in tuning into Fox, MSNBC, or CNN to see them politicize this tragedy.

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Damn, son. That sh*t cray. Real talk. Anyone think that he was motivated by Bane, since Bane is a terrorist?

BluRayHiDef

Did I do or say something wrong? I simply asked a question. Think about it. Bane is a terrorist in the film, and the pepertrator committed and act of terrorism. That's not a coincidence. He could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus - both of which are big summer blockbusters like TDKR - but he chose to do it during a viewing of The Dark Knight - a film which just so happens to have a villain that's a terrorist.

For f*ck's sake....

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

did I do or say something wrong? I simply asked a question. Think about it. Bane is a terrorist in the film, and the pepertrator committed and act of terrorism. That's not a coincidence. He could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus - both of which are big summer blockbusters like TDKR - but he chose to do it during a viewing of The Dark Knight - a film which just so happens to have a villain that's a terrorist.

Anyhow, how do you think this will affect the film's box-office performance? Maybe people will be too scared to see it. I'm going to see it twice tomorrow; I've got two advanced tickets. If the place gets shot up, then so be it (my life sucks anyway). However, I just hope that the gunman/ gunmen wait until the film is over.

Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

Over 60 people shot from one civilian shooting...

This guy has skill.

worlock77

Not really. Just a rapid fire weapon, a lot of targets, and a confined area.

I'm just remarking on how shocking and impressive (in a bad way no less) that was. I really haven't heard of a massacre on that large of a scale in the U.S. in awhile; either that or I just haven't been reading the news. Still...I gotta wonder, what led him to just shooting up a theatre like this out of nowhere? Did the guy get caught yet?

Well, were they able to see the rest of the movie?

Jazz_Fan

[QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

Over 60 people shot from one civilian shooting...

This guy has skill.

Iszdope

You are also an idiot.

Congratulations.

You can stop with your pseudo-intelligent posts now. Nobody thinks you're funny. Stop looking for attention.

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/

Oh look at that, the dude behind this website is British.

Really, guns aren't complex machines and people have been crafting them for centuries.

worlock77

Guns need to be very precise, Very few people whould have the skills and machinery to produce anything capable of mass killings. Even if they could they would not manage it on a mass scale. They would be rare and very expensive on the black market. Not to mention the risk of the ATF tracking them down.

Guns do not need to be very precise. All you need, in a nutshell, is a hammer to strike the primer on the bullet, and a barell from which to launch the resulting projectile. the machinery isn't complex, and anyone who's taken shop class in high school could probably do it. As for rare and expensive on the black market - the AK-47 is the most bootlegged gun in the world. Millions of counterfeit AKs have been manufactured and distributed throughout the worldwide black market at prices as cheap as $30 in some countries. And if anything being black market, and thus having no numbers, makes them harder to track.

You really don't seem to have much knowledge or understanding of this topic so perhaps you should just gracefully bow out.

Even a Musket requires more precision then you seem to think, Without a precise barrel and very well fitting musket ball the effectiveness of the weapon will be extremely limited.

Guns do have to be very precise, The more precise the better. The mechanics behind guns havn't changed much since WW1, What has chnaged is our manufacturing procedure, We cqan make them far more precise, Thus higher velocity, More accurate and more reliable. The AK-47 was the creation of a very skilled weapons engineer and they have been produced in weapons factories, Not peoples back yards. You presume too much thinking i know very little about the subject, Look into weapons manufacturing during WW1 and WW2 and you will see the reality of weapons manufacturing and the end result. The less precise the worse the weapon. Both sides learnt that lesson but both sides were forced to compromise.

dude home made guns arent uncommon in the US.

we have TONS of small scale gun makers and shops (2-6 people working per shop).

hell we have multiple tv shows about family run gun crafters.

Australia doesn't need guns to kill people the abundance of venomous wild life does a fine job by its self.

i had an australian friend who was KILLLED BY A SINGLE ANT.

look up jack jumpe ants.

frannkzappa

Just don't touch anything that moves and you're fine. Or if you must touch it, Hit it with a stick first. Unless it's bigger then a small mouse, Then hit it with big stick. Tasmanian Devils on the other hand, Hit them with a stick all you want, They won't get any more pissed off then they already are. Don't run, You only give it a clean shot at your hamstring and Achilles heel. We learn these things in first grade.

I'm watching the ignorance that is the Today show and they are reporting that this might be Batmans fault. The film is too violent and could have something to do with this moron who decided to open fire on innocent people. todd2r

WTF? This could have happened at a midnight showing for any movie. It's not like the guy showed up in the theater, was influenced by the violence on screen, then went home and came back to the theater and started shooting.

What an idiotic thing to say.

dude home made guns arent uncommon in the US.

we have TONS of small scale gun makers and shops (2-6 people working per shop).

hell we have multiple tv shows about family run gun crafters.

frannkzappa

and people do it all the time

I don't know why it would just occur to somebody that they should go kill a bunch of innocent people like that. It never makes any sense. Where do they get these sick ideas?

Oh well. Some people are just going to snap. There are 6+ billion of us on the world, even if one out of every 1 million people is a crazy nutjob who wants to kill everything, that still leaves 6000 of them. Out of that 6000, one of them is going to find the means to do something like this.

dude home made guns arent uncommon in the US.

we have TONS of small scale gun makers and shops (2-6 people working per shop).

hell we have multiple tv shows about family run gun crafters.

frannkzappa

If such things are legal i'd think so. But i'd assume these people are skilled at their craft and if what they were doing became illegal it would make their job very difficult. They are not sitting in a shed bashing together water pipes with a hammer. I'm not saying people couldn't acquire guns illegally, Of course thet could, The idea is to make it harder, The amount the US spend already trying to deal with illegal guns that could easily be purchased legally is futile. Where are all these illegal guns comming from anyway? Are they not simply legal guns that disappear?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Guns need to be very precise, Very few people whould have the skills and machinery to produce anything capable of mass killings. Even if they could they would not manage it on a mass scale. They would be rare and very expensive on the black market. Not to mention the risk of the ATF tracking them down.

mattisgod01

Guns do not need to be very precise. All you need, in a nutshell, is a hammer to strike the primer on the bullet, and a barell from which to launch the resulting projectile. the machinery isn't complex, and anyone who's taken shop class in high school could probably do it. As for rare and expensive on the black market - the AK-47 is the most bootlegged gun in the world. Millions of counterfeit AKs have been manufactured and distributed throughout the worldwide black market at prices as cheap as $30 in some countries. And if anything being black market, and thus having no numbers, makes them harder to track.

You really don't seem to have much knowledge or understanding of this topic so perhaps you should just gracefully bow out.

Even a Musket requires more precision then you seem to think, Without a precise barrel and very well fitting musket ball the effectiveness of the weapon will be extremely limited.

Guns do have to be very precise, The more precise the better. The mechanics behind guns havn't changed much since WW1, What has chnaged is our manufacturing procedure, We cqan make them far more precise, Thus higher velocity, More accurate and more reliable. The AK-47 was the creation of a very skilled weapons engineer and they have been produced in weapons factories, Not peoples back yards. You presume too much thinking i know very little about the subject, Look into weapons manufacturing during WW1 and WW2 and you will see the reality of weapons manufacturing and the end result. The less precise the worse the weapon. Both sides learnt that lesson but both sides were forced to compromise.

Sure, barrels need to be precise. But again, this isn't some skill that's beyond the grasp of all but an elite few. I thought you were talking about the machinery itself, as if it's something complicated. There are many people out there quite capable of crafting guns out of their own homes should they be so inclined. And yes, there is a sizable black market for counterfeit AK-47s.

I don't know why it would just occur to somebody that they should go kill a bunch of innocent people like that. It never makes any sense. Where do they get these sick ideas?

Oh well. Some people are just going to snap. There are 6+ billion of us on the world, even if one out of every 1 million people is a crazy nutjob who wants to kill everything, that still leaves 6000 of them. Out of that 6000, one of them is going to find the means to do something like this.

Wasdie

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't know why it would just occur to somebody that they should go kill a bunch of innocent people like that. It never makes any sense. Where do they get these sick ideas?

Oh well. Some people are just going to snap. There are 6+ billion of us on the world, even if one out of every 1 million people is a crazy nutjob who wants to kill everything, that still leaves 6000 of them. Out of that 6000, one of them is going to find the means to do something like this.

BluRayHiDef

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

dude home made guns arent uncommon in the US.

we have TONS of small scale gun makers and shops (2-6 people working per shop).

hell we have multiple tv shows about family run gun crafters.

mattisgod01

If such things are legal i'd think so. But i'd assume these people are skilled at their craft and if what they were doing became illegal it would make their job very difficult. They are not sitting in a shed bashing together water pipes with a hammer. I'm not saying people couldn't acquire guns illegally, Of course thet could, The idea is to make it harder, The amount the US spend already trying to deal with illegal guns that could easily be purchased legally is futile. Where are all these illegal guns comming from anyway? Are they not simply legal guns that disappear?

I don't know why you have the idea that making something illegal makes it go away. The history of prohibition has shown that never to be the case.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't know why it would just occur to somebody that they should go kill a bunch of innocent people like that. It never makes any sense. Where do they get these sick ideas?

Oh well. Some people are just going to snap. There are 6+ billion of us on the world, even if one out of every 1 million people is a crazy nutjob who wants to kill everything, that still leaves 6000 of them. Out of that 6000, one of them is going to find the means to do something like this.

BluRayHiDef

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

Holy sh*t, stop posting.

[QUOTE="todd2r"]I'm watching the ignorance that is the Today show and they are reporting that this might be Batmans fault. The film is too violent and could have something to do with this moron who decided to open fire on innocent people. JML897

WTF? This could have happened at a midnight showing for any movie. It's not like the guy showed up in the theater, was influenced by the violence on screen, then went home and came back to the theater and started shooting.

What an idiotic thing to say.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

dude home made guns arent uncommon in the US.

we have TONS of small scale gun makers and shops (2-6 people working per shop).

hell we have multiple tv shows about family run gun crafters.

almasdeathchild

and people do it all the time

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't know why it would just occur to somebody that they should go kill a bunch of innocent people like that. It never makes any sense. Where do they get these sick ideas?

Oh well. Some people are just going to snap. There are 6+ billion of us on the world, even if one out of every 1 million people is a crazy nutjob who wants to kill everything, that still leaves 6000 of them. Out of that 6000, one of them is going to find the means to do something like this.

BluRayHiDef

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

shut up we are trying to have a debate on gun laws.

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Guns do not need to be very precise. All you need, in a nutshell, is a hammer to strike the primer on the bullet, and a barell from which to launch the resulting projectile. the machinery isn't complex, and anyone who's taken shop class in high school could probably do it. As for rare and expensive on the black market - the AK-47 is the most bootlegged gun in the world. Millions of counterfeit AKs have been manufactured and distributed throughout the worldwide black market at prices as cheap as $30 in some countries. And if anything being black market, and thus having no numbers, makes them harder to track.

You really don't seem to have much knowledge or understanding of this topic so perhaps you should just gracefully bow out.

worlock77

Even a Musket requires more precision then you seem to think, Without a precise barrel and very well fitting musket ball the effectiveness of the weapon will be extremely limited.

Guns do have to be very precise, The more precise the better. The mechanics behind guns havn't changed much since WW1, What has chnaged is our manufacturing procedure, We cqan make them far more precise, Thus higher velocity, More accurate and more reliable. The AK-47 was the creation of a very skilled weapons engineer and they have been produced in weapons factories, Not peoples back yards. You presume too much thinking i know very little about the subject, Look into weapons manufacturing during WW1 and WW2 and you will see the reality of weapons manufacturing and the end result. The less precise the worse the weapon. Both sides learnt that lesson but both sides were forced to compromise.

Sure, barrels need to be precise. But again, this isn't some skill that's beyond the grasp of all but an elite few. I thought you were talking about the machinery itself, as if it's something complicated. There are many people out there quite capable of crafting guns out of their own homes should they be so inclined. And yes, there is a sizable black market for counterfeit AK-47s.

All the truely homemade guns i've seen have not been capable of full-auto fire, Atleast not for long. To make a workable counterfeit AK-47 would be very difficult and time consuming for one person without the right metal working equipment and skill. Even if they managed it they could hardly make then en masse. The point is gun control, Not complete removal. Would atleast making a start to be a good thing? Stop the legal manufacturing and sale and focus on the illegal. Might take decades to see a noticeable difference but atleast it would be a start.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't know why it would just occur to somebody that they should go kill a bunch of innocent people like that. It never makes any sense. Where do they get these sick ideas?

Oh well. Some people are just going to snap. There are 6+ billion of us on the world, even if one out of every 1 million people is a crazy nutjob who wants to kill everything, that still leaves 6000 of them. Out of that 6000, one of them is going to find the means to do something like this.

BluRayHiDef

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

It has nothing to do with Bain. How you're even making a connection with Bain and this man is baffling me.

You know, he may have been wanting to do something like this for awhile but he hadn't gotten to the mental state needed to act so rashly. From what I've read, this wasn't necessarily a well thought out plan, especially if he is already in custody. He just have snapped, grabbed some guns and some gas and went shooting. They found the guy in a car and he didn't even resist arrest. Obviously his mind was gone.

This has nothing to do with Bain. Even trying to link it makes you look stupid.

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

BluRayHiDef

That sh*t cray.

I know, right? That's exactly what I've been saying. What do you think this will go down in history as? "Bane Motivated Assault"?

No, it won't. Now stop being an idiot.

No, it won't. Now stop being an idiot.

worlock77

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

dude home made guns arent uncommon in the US.

we have TONS of small scale gun makers and shops (2-6 people working per shop).

hell we have multiple tv shows about family run gun crafters.

worlock77

If such things are legal i'd think so. But i'd assume these people are skilled at their craft and if what they were doing became illegal it would make their job very difficult. They are not sitting in a shed bashing together water pipes with a hammer. I'm not saying people couldn't acquire guns illegally, Of course thet could, The idea is to make it harder, The amount the US spend already trying to deal with illegal guns that could easily be purchased legally is futile. Where are all these illegal guns comming from anyway? Are they not simply legal guns that disappear?

I don't know why you have the idea that making something illegal makes it go away. The history of prohibition has shown that never to be the case.

The US is the biggest supplier if Guns in the world, Prohibition would be more successful for guns as they are harder to manufacutre. It won't make them go away but it will help control the issue. Far too many guns made in America are ending up in the hands of criminals outside the US. If America want's to keep fighting the Drug cartels it would help if they stopped supplying them with weapons.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't know why it would just occur to somebody that they should go kill a bunch of innocent people like that. It never makes any sense. Where do they get these sick ideas?

Oh well. Some people are just going to snap. There are 6+ billion of us on the world, even if one out of every 1 million people is a crazy nutjob who wants to kill everything, that still leaves 6000 of them. Out of that 6000, one of them is going to find the means to do something like this.

Wasdie

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

It has nothing to do with Bain. How you're even making a connection with Bain and this man is baffling me.

You know, he may have been wanting to do something like this for awhile but he hadn't gotten to the mental state needed to act so rashly. From what I've read, this wasn't necessarily a well thought out plan, especially if he is already in custody. He just have snapped, grabbed some guns and some gas and went shooting. They found the guy in a car and he didn't even resist arrest. Obviously his mind was gone.

This has nothing to do with Bain. Even trying to link it makes you look stupid.

• First of all, it's "Bane", not "Bain".
• Second of all, there is nothing stupid/ irrational about suggesting that this shooting has something to do with Bane because Bane is the villain of the very movie which was being shown in the theater he commited the act in. This theory is just as likely as yours.
• Thirdly, this sh*t cray.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Even a Musket requires more precision then you seem to think, Without a precise barrel and very well fitting musket ball the effectiveness of the weapon will be extremely limited.

Guns do have to be very precise, The more precise the better. The mechanics behind guns havn't changed much since WW1, What has chnaged is our manufacturing procedure, We cqan make them far more precise, Thus higher velocity, More accurate and more reliable. The AK-47 was the creation of a very skilled weapons engineer and they have been produced in weapons factories, Not peoples back yards. You presume too much thinking i know very little about the subject, Look into weapons manufacturing during WW1 and WW2 and you will see the reality of weapons manufacturing and the end result. The less precise the worse the weapon. Both sides learnt that lesson but both sides were forced to compromise.

mattisgod01

Sure, barrels need to be precise. But again, this isn't some skill that's beyond the grasp of all but an elite few. I thought you were talking about the machinery itself, as if it's something complicated. There are many people out there quite capable of crafting guns out of their own homes should they be so inclined. And yes, there is a sizable black market for counterfeit AK-47s.

All the truely homemade guns i've seen have not been capable of full-auto fire, Atleast not for long. To make a workable counterfeit AK-47 would be very difficult and time consuming for one person without the right metal working equipment and skill. Even if they managed it they could hardly make then en masse. The point is gun control, Not complete removal. Would atleast making a start to be a good thing? Stop the legal manufacturing and sale and focus on the illegal. Might take decades to see a noticeable difference but atleast it would be a start.

Sure, a person could mass produce guns out of their basement. But they could craft them. Now you do realize, of course, that there are many areas in the world with little to no law enforcement, and that such places have facilities set up by criminal organizations precisely for the manufacturing of black market goods such as guns (and drugs and just about anything else you can think of) right?

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't know why it would just occur to somebody that they should go kill a bunch of innocent people like that. It never makes any sense. Where do they get these sick ideas?

Oh well. Some people are just going to snap. There are 6+ billion of us on the world, even if one out of every 1 million people is a crazy nutjob who wants to kill everything, that still leaves 6000 of them. Out of that 6000, one of them is going to find the means to do something like this.

Wasdie

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

It has nothing to do with Bain. How you're even making a connection with Bain and this man is baffling me.

You know, he may have been wanting to do something like this for awhile but he hadn't gotten to the mental state needed to act so rashly. From what I've read, this wasn't necessarily a well thought out plan, especially if he is already in custody. He just have snapped, grabbed some guns and some gas and went shooting. They found the guy in a car and he didn't even resist arrest. Obviously his mind was gone.

This has nothing to do with Bain. Even trying to link it makes you look stupid.

My Spidey sense is telling me he is trolling...To the Bat Mobile.

Second of all, there is nothing stupid/ irrational about suggesting that this shooting has something to do with Bane because Bane is the villain of the very movie which was being shown in the theater he commited the act in. This theory is just as likely as yours.BluRayHiDef

Yeah, there is and no, it is not.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Do you think that he chose to commit this act during a showing of TDKR because its villain - Bane - is a terrorist? Or do you think he chose TDKR simply because he knew it would be full? I think the former because if the latter were the case, he could have chosen to do this during a showing of Avengers or Prometheus when each of them was released.

BluRayHiDef

It has nothing to do with Bain. How you're even making a connection with Bain and this man is baffling me.

You know, he may have been wanting to do something like this for awhile but he hadn't gotten to the mental state needed to act so rashly. From what I've read, this wasn't necessarily a well thought out plan, especially if he is already in custody. He just have snapped, grabbed some guns and some gas and went shooting. They found the guy in a car and he didn't even resist arrest. Obviously his mind was gone.

This has nothing to do with Bain. Even trying to link it makes you look stupid.

• First of all, it's "Bane", not "Bain".
• Second of all, there is nothing stupid/ irrational about suggesting that this shooting has something to do with Bane because Bane is the villain of the very movie which was being shown in the theater he commited the act in. This theory is just as likely as yours.
• Thirdly, this sh*t cray.

It's awesome to see we've focused on the roots of the problem here OT...6 Year olds at Midnight Showings and inanimate objects....good thing we're not holding it against the sick piece of sh*t that did this.....OT....always good for a laugh in the morning...Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Sure, barrels need to be precise. But again, this isn't some skill that's beyond the grasp of all but an elite few. I thought you were talking about the machinery itself, as if it's something complicated. There are many people out there quite capable of crafting guns out of their own homes should they be so inclined. And yes, there is a sizable black market for counterfeit AK-47s.

worlock77

All the truely homemade guns i've seen have not been capable of full-auto fire, Atleast not for long. To make a workable counterfeit AK-47 would be very difficult and time consuming for one person without the right metal working equipment and skill. Even if they managed it they could hardly make then en masse. The point is gun control, Not complete removal. Would atleast making a start to be a good thing? Stop the legal manufacturing and sale and focus on the illegal. Might take decades to see a noticeable difference but atleast it would be a start.

Sure, a person could mass produce guns out of their basement. But they could craft them. Now you do realize, of course, that there are many areas in the world with little to no law enforcement, and that such places have facilities set up by criminal organizations precisely for the manufacturing of black market goods such as guns (and drugs and just about anything else you can think of) right?

I can gaurantee they produce an insignifact number of guns compared to the big manufacturers. Not to mention guns of lesser qaulity and likely more expensive. Why buy guns made by criminals when you can buy them made by state-of-the-art technology by expert? The ATF exists for a reason