News: Iran *One year away from a Nuclear bomb* according to US officials.

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#51 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="STurn21"]There is not one super power right now that supports Iran. Maybe a few Middle Eastern countries would be molly-wopped, but it would be far from WW3.STurn21

Russia are supporting Iran, they're the ones who are supplying them with anti-air weapons.

If you think Russia is willing to sacrifice their well being for the crazies in Iran you are terribly misinformed...

Check the link.
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#54 hamstergeddon
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This just in: sanctions don't actually work in nations where the government doesn't give a **** about it's people.
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#56 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="STurn21"]

If you think Russia is willing to sacrifice their well being for the crazies in Iran you are terribly misinformed...

STurn21

Check the link.

hudsonny.org....yeah.

Reuters alright for you instead? If not then there are a number of other links I could provide that say the same thing. I know denial is an ugly thing but try to get over it.

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#58 hamstergeddon
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]This just in: sanctions don't actually work in nations where the government doesn't give a **** about it's people. STurn21

I don't think you understand the weight UN sanctions hold. If a country consistently violates UN specific "last warning" UN sanctions (especially when it comes to nukes), a UN coalition force invading is right around the corner. Approval of the UN is easily the most important aspect of waging a successful, well accepted war.

Yeah... because once Iran gets nukes we'll TOTALLY be able to invade it. And it's going to take well over a year first to establish sanctions, then to ascertain that they're NOT working, then to drum of support for invading Iran, then to finally get around to doing it. By that time, Iran will be a nuclear power and there's nothing we can do at that point.
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#59 snakes_codec
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Iran can build as many Nukes as it wants it will never have enough money to build a world ****delivery system with out the help of one of the world powers and currently the U.S Russia China Britain & France are the only nations on the planet with a proven capacity to build a delivery system of modern standard .

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#61 htekemerald
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The funniest part off all this is Irans desire to have a bomb is due to America's hard line approach to Iran.

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#63 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]

[QUOTE="STurn21"]

hudsonny.org....yeah.

STurn21

Reuters alright for you instead? If not then there are a number of other links I could provide that say the same thing. I know denial is an ugly thing but try to get over it.

Did you ignore the link I posted from this week (not 3 months ago like the sources you keep supplying)? Selling air defense systems to a country for billions of dollars and supporting them in nuclear war are two very different things.

What do the links being 3 months old have anything to do with it? It's still valid and you know it. Yeah sure, Russia are supporting Iran whether you like it or not, if they didn't then they would have no intention of supplying them with arms that could be used to destroy U.S/Israeli aircrafts. And I never said they would support them in a nuclear war, I said that an attack on Iran would lead to a nuclear conflict in that Region.
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#64 xionvalkyrie
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It's okay, Israel will just send in a secret tactical squad and blow it up again.

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#67 MushroomWig
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It's okay, Israel will just send in a secret tactical squad and blow it up again.

xionvalkyrie
You honestly think Iran would just let that happen? Even if Israel did destroy the Nuclear facility, Iran would hit back with everything they had.
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#68 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="STurn21"]

Did you ignore the link I posted from this week (not 3 months ago like the sources you keep supplying)? Selling air defense systems to a country for billions of dollars and supporting them in nuclear war are two very different things.

STurn21

What do the links being 3 months old have anything to do with it? It's still valid and you know it. Yeah sure, Russia are supporting Iran whether you like it or not, if they didn't then they would have no intention of supplying them with arms that could be used to destroy U.S/Israeli aircrafts. And I never said they would support them in a nuclear war, I said that an attack on Iran would lead to a nuclear conflict in that Region.

I am arguing against the ridiculous assertion that Russia would take part in WW3 for the sake of Iran. Selling old, decrepit AD systems is solely for monetary purposes.

Again, I never said anything about Russia taking part in WW3 for the sake of Iran.
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#69 snakes_codec
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[QUOTE="STurn21"]There is not one super power right now that supports Iran. Maybe a few Middle Eastern countries would be molly-wopped, but it would be far from WW3.MushroomWig

Russia are supporting Iran, they're the ones who are supplying them with anti-air weapons.

why shouldn't Russia sell them these weapons if there getting the cash for them its a completely legit arms sale its not like there giving them for free and Russia will never back Iran in a war type scenario because it has far to much to lose if it does most of Russia's biggest trading partners would pull out there investment in Russia .

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#71 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]

[QUOTE="STurn21"]There is not one super power right now that supports Iran. Maybe a few Middle Eastern countries would be molly-wopped, but it would be far from WW3.snakes_codec

Russia are supporting Iran, they're the ones who are supplying them with anti-air weapons.

why shouldn't Russia sell them these weapons if there getting the cash for them its a completely legit arms sale its not like there giving them for free and Russia will never back Iran in a war type scenario because it has far to much to lose if it does most of Russia's biggest trading partners would pull out there investment in Russia .

Sure it's legit and they're doing it for the cash, but they're still supporting them by doing this because they're providing Iran with that extra level of defence if Israel ever attacked. Would you say the same if the U.S provided North Korea with weapons? would you still say "why shouldn't they? They're doing it for the money"? You honestly wouldn't think that America were supporting them?
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#73 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="xionvalkyrie"]

It's okay, Israel will just send in a secret tactical squad and blow it up again.

STurn21

You honestly think Iran would just let that happen? Even if Israel did destroy the Nuclear facility, Iran would hit back with everything they had.

And what exactly does Iran have? Old Soviet technology that would be obliterated by Israel. Are you forgetting that Iran got slaughtered by Iraq? And that was back when their economy was decent. Now a days, after the UN TRADE SANCTIONS, they wouldn't be able to sustain a war against a small military let alone the best military in the Middle East.

Well by judging http://www.globalfirepower.com/ they're countries such as Canada, Austrailia, Spain, and WAY above Iraq. Sure Israel are quite a few numbers above Iran but that doesn't mean they couldn't cripple Israel beyond repair. Maybe they don't care about being able to sustain a war? Who's to say that they don't just want to launch everything they have, destroy Israel as much as possible and not care about being wiped out themselves?
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#75 fidosim
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Ahmadinejad set up Iran bomb!
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#76 MushroomWig
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And by the way, old Soviet AD systems are not capable of effective defense against a modern, advanced Air Force. Iraq had old Soviet AD systems and we had no problems bombing them to oblivion.

STurn21
Who is we? You may be American but you weren't there.
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#79 brickdoctor
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I don't get whats the big deal with nuclear bombs. Its deadly and all but they could uses they funds towards other stuff instead of building the bombs

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Nukes are a deterrent weapon. Countries might think twice knowing that they can be annialated by our nukes.

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#80 MushroomWig
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]And what does that first sentence even mean?

STurn21

Well, click the link and read it. Iran has a greater military strength than Iraq, Australia, Canada..etc..etc. Typical American, you seem to think Iran will be as easy to beat as Iraq was.

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#81 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="STurn21"]

And by the way, old Soviet AD systems are not capable of effective defense against a modern, advanced Air Force. Iraq had old Soviet AD systems and we had no problems bombing them to oblivion.

STurn21

Who is we? You may be American but you weren't there.

Excuse me?

You said "we", were you even in Iraq? "We had no problems bombing them..."
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#83 MushroomWig
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the very last sentence before the little list.STurn21
Obviously it's not SUPER-accurate, it's a general estimate. It's not a govenment site. ;) It's still accurate though, otherwise it wouldn't be the number of hits it gets.
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#85 sosodat
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A pretty interesting fact about iran is that it has the worlds fastest growth rate in science and technology which also includes a 1000 percent increase from the last 9 years according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statistically_superlative_countries
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#86 sosodat
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Iran is more modern and powerful then most Americans think its just that they only get American news thus thinking Iran is like afghanistan or Iraq which is not true at all.
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#87 sosodat
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Iran is more modern and powerful then most Americans think its just that they only get American news thus thinking Iran is like afghanistan or Iraq which is not true at all.
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#89 sosodat
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Well if you do watch the BBC and Al Jazeera surely you should know that Iran has made vast strides towards science and technology and military power P.S. The comment i made wasnt directed towards you
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#91 sosodat
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An i would love it for you to provide a link that says Irans economy is weak. Nations are discussing on how sanctions on iran are counter productive on iran and you say its economy is weak. On the contrary iran has actually boosted its trade with many south american countries including a powerhouse like Brazil and also regional countries such as turkey, pakistan, and china and its economy has actually improved in the last year China and Russia are reluctant to impose sanctions on iran and you sir no exactly why and its not because irans economy is weak
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#92 Pixel-Pirate
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I find it funny that the only country who has used nuclear weapons in a war is the country that gets to decide who can and can't have nukes. Yes, we are a paragon of responsibility with those things.

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#94 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Is it time to panic yet?

collegeboy64

Nah. Obama's got it all under control. He's gonna talk ol Ack-Mah-Dean-ajad in to givin em up. That Obama. He's a smooooooth talker.

That was the strategy Bush adopted with Kim Jong.

What alternative is there? Going in guns blazing is foolish. Our military is not omnipotent and we already are spending "too much money". We don't have the resources to start a third war in the middle east.

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#95 outworld222
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OMG, this is really stupid. Aren't these the same people that said Iraq was going to throw a nuke bomb on the US before the Iraq invasion?

Now they are saying Iran is going to Nuke Israel? When is this going to stop people?

I just want to say that Iraq was searched from top down, nope, no WMD, no connection with terrorists at the time. Thanks.

Oh and BTW, no, they weren't shipped out to another country. For heavens sakes.

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Of course the US economy is powerful it has trade agreements and interests with countries all over the world and israel is only a country with about 9 million people gets alot of aid from countries such as the US and Canada it makes sense that both countries have a stronger economy than iran but you cant necessarily say irans economy is weak and that it cant handle a war with israel and plus iran wouldnt go down without a fight just by closing the straight of hormuz and sending oil prices up it easily damages an american capitalist economy that is basically a gas guzzler which is why america does not want war in the region thats what its interests are i hope you understand that its interest is oilsosodat
It may very well be. What other conclusions do you want people to make? Could could very well be. The heck if I know.
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#98 sosodat
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[QUOTE="sosodat"]An i would love it for you to provide a link that says Irans economy is weak. Nations are discussing on how sanctions on iran are counter productive on iran and you say its economy is weak. On the contrary iran has actually boosted its trade with many south american countries including a powerhouse like Brazil and also regional countries such as turkey, pakistan, and china and its economy has actually improved in the last year China and Russia are reluctant to impose sanctions on iran and you sir no exactly why and its not because irans economy is weakSTurn21

$12,900 GDP Per Capita (in PPP) compared to Israel ($28,000) and the US ($46,000) they have a very weak economy.

Source: CIA World Factbook. Easily one of the most credible sites available to your average citizen.

Of course the US economy is powerful it has trade agreements and interests with countries all over the world and israel is only a country with about 9 million people gets alot of aid from countries such as the US and Canada it makes sense that both countries have a stronger economy than iran but you cant necessarily say irans economy is weak and that it cant handle a war with israel and plus iran wouldnt go down without a fight just by closing the straight of hormuz and sending oil prices up it easily damages an american capitalist economy that is basically a gas guzzler which is why america does not want war in the region thats what its interests are i hope you understand that its interest is oil
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#99 sosodat
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OMG, this is really stupid. Aren't these the same people that said Iraq was going to throw a nuke bomb on the US before the Iraq invasion?

Now they are saying Iran is going to Nuke Israel? When is this going to stop people?

I just want to say that Iraq was searched from top down, nope, no WMD, no connection with terrorists at the time. Thanks.

Oh and BTW, no, they weren't shipped out to another country. For heavens sakes.

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Its gonna stop when israel feels safe ( which is gonna be never) First israel complains about iraq, now iran, and my next guess is syria or lebenan in a couple of years if there is no peace agreement