Next Power Country

Stop the presses! Why are we arguing? U.S.A.and Europe and (I think China) are friends.mayormoose

Exactly, listen to this wise man, he speak the truth:P.

Stop the presses! Why are we arguing? U.S.A.and Europe and (I think China) are friends.mayormoose

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Most likely the EU, it already is richer than the US, it only needs a little more centralization.

jointed

Because they aren't trying.

The military budget of the EU is 300 billion (dollars) and the budget of the US is 500. If the EU really wanted to compete with the US they could easily increase that budget, but there's no need to destroy the balance.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying...

even if they increased the budget, they still coulden't be as great as us. we were still the superpower before we started the war in iraq. before the wars in afghanistan and iraq, we only spent 250 billion dollars a year

That's why I'm saying that they need time to centralize, the question wasn't: "Who's the world's super power" it was : "who'll be the next super power".

The EU isn't going to centralize any more and let's hope it doesn't. The difference in cultures and languages between the member-states is too big to even consider joining together even more than they currently are.

not really, a new constitution has already been approved, it's only a matter of time.....and the average European doesn't mind it at all.

Are you kidding? There are many people that disagree with futher integration with Europe. Besides, there may well be a constitution (even though parties within the EU are tending to disagree with it) but that's about as far as it'll go. To suggest a unified European country with a EU Army is a bit far fetched.

[QUOTE="macedonicus"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"]

Most likely the EU, it already is richer than the US, it only needs a little more centralization.

jointed

Because they aren't trying.

The military budget of the EU is 300 billion (dollars) and the budget of the US is 500. If the EU really wanted to compete with the US they could easily increase that budget, but there's no need to destroy the balance.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying...

even if they increased the budget, they still coulden't be as great as us. we were still the superpower before we started the war in iraq. before the wars in afghanistan and iraq, we only spent 250 billion dollars a year

That's why I'm saying that they need time to centralize, the question wasn't: "Who's the world's super power" it was : "who'll be the next super power".

The EU isn't going to centralize any more and let's hope it doesn't. The difference in cultures and languages between the member-states is too big to even consider joining together even more than they currently are.

not really, a new constitution has already been approved, it's only a matter of time.....and the average European doesn't mind it at all.

Most likely the EU, it already is richer than the US, it only needs a little more centralization.

jointed

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
mayormoose

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

[QUOTE="mayormoose"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
Bourbons3

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

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Most likely the EU, it already is richer than the US, it only needs a little more centralization.

macedonicus

Because they aren't trying.

The military budget of the EU is 300 billion (dollars) and the budget of the US is 500. If the EU really wanted to compete with the US they could easily increase that budget, but there's no need to destroy the balance.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying...

even if they increased the budget, they still coulden't be as great as us. we were still the superpower before we started the war in iraq. before the wars in afghanistan and iraq, we only spent 250 billion dollars a year

That's why I'm saying that they need time to centralize, the question wasn't: "Who's the world's super power" it was : "who'll be the next super power".

The EU isn't going to centralize any more and let's hope it doesn't. The difference in cultures and languages between the member-states is too big to even consider joining together even more than they currently are.

not really, a new constitution has already been approved, it's only a matter of time.....and the average European doesn't mind it at all.

Are you kidding? There are many people that disagree with futher integration with Europe. Besides, there may well be a constitution (even though parties within the EU are tending to disagree with it) but that's about as far as it'll go. To suggest a unified European country with a EU Army is a bit far fetched.

There has been countless of polls about that, but nevermind. Since Europe and the US are very close allies, I see no point in discussing this, Europe has no intention of becoming a super power....China on the other hand.......

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]The UK. We have a century at the top, you have a century at the top, and so on...deshields538

Yep. We're gonna make a comeback! :D

Ok seriously it'll probably be China or India.

[QUOTE="macedonicus"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"]

Most likely the EU, it already is richer than the US, it only needs a little more centralization.

jointed

Because they aren't trying.

The military budget of the EU is 300 billion (dollars) and the budget of the US is 500. If the EU really wanted to compete with the US they could easily increase that budget, but there's no need to destroy the balance.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying...

even if they increased the budget, they still coulden't be as great as us. we were still the superpower before we started the war in iraq. before the wars in afghanistan and iraq, we only spent 250 billion dollars a year

That's why I'm saying that they need time to centralize, the question wasn't: "Who's the world's super power" it was : "who'll be the next super power".

The EU isn't going to centralize any more and let's hope it doesn't. The difference in cultures and languages between the member-states is too big to even consider joining together even more than they currently are.

not really, a new constitution has already been approved, it's only a matter of time.....and the average European doesn't mind it at all.

[QUOTE="macedonicus"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="macedonicus"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="jointed"]

Most likely the EU, it already is richer than the US, it only needs a little more centralization.

jointed

Because they aren't trying.

The military budget of the EU is 300 billion (dollars) and the budget of the US is 500. If the EU really wanted to compete with the US they could easily increase that budget, but there's no need to destroy the balance.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying...

even if they increased the budget, they still coulden't be as great as us. we were still the superpower before we started the war in iraq. before the wars in afghanistan and iraq, we only spent 250 billion dollars a year

That's why I'm saying that they need time to centralize, the question wasn't: "Who's the world's super power" it was : "who'll be the next super power".

The EU isn't going to centralize any more and let's hope it doesn't. The difference in cultures and languages between the member-states is too big to even consider joining together even more than they currently are.

not really, a new constitution has already been approved, it's only a matter of time.....and the average European doesn't mind it at all.

Are you kidding? There are many people that disagree with futher integration with Europe. Besides, there may well be a constitution (even though parties within the EU are tending to disagree with it) but that's about as far as it'll go. To suggest a unified European country with a EU Army is a bit far fetched.

There has been countless of polls about that, but nevermind. Since Europe and the US are very close allies, I see no point in discussing this, Europe has no intention of becoming a super power....China on the other hand.......

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mayormoose"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
mig_killer2

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mayormoose"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
Bourbons3

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mayormoose"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
mig_killer2

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

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Most likely the EU, it already is richer than the US, it only needs a little more centralization.

Bourbons3

Because they aren't trying.

The military budget of the EU is 300 billion (dollars) and the budget of the US is 500. If the EU really wanted to compete with the US they could easily increase that budget, but there's no need to destroy the balance.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying...

even if they increased the budget, they still coulden't be as great as us. we were still the superpower before we started the war in iraq. before the wars in afghanistan and iraq, we only spent 250 billion dollars a year

That's why I'm saying that they need time to centralize, the question wasn't: "Who's the world's super power" it was : "who'll be the next super power".

The EU isn't going to centralize any more and let's hope it doesn't. The difference in cultures and languages between the member-states is too big to even consider joining together even more than they currently are.

not really, a new constitution has already been approved, it's only a matter of time.....and the average European doesn't mind it at all.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mayormoose"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
Bourbons3

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

Yes they would, but they are only ignorant people. American forces were deployed in Vietnam to stop that country going communist... Vientam is still a single-party socialist state.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mayormoose"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
Bourbons3

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

Yes but if America was Vietnam and Vietnam was America... America would be calling the war a victory. If you know what I mean.

I just hope it's not China :|Aznsilvrboy

I think you've been playing too much Battlefield 2.

Bourbons3, you're 100% right. We (Brits) have proven to be very problematic when it comes to the centralization process of the EU.

walls of texts burns my eyes:|. anyways, it has to be canada. they're been quiet for too long...

jk jk:)

[QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"]I just hope it's not China :|macedonicus

I think you've been playing too much Battlefield 2.

I dont even own Battlefield 2. I said I hope it's not China due to political reasons, nothing else.

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

paranoid-monkey

[QUOTE="paranoid-monkey"]

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

bushidotu

Bourbons3, you're 100% right. We (Brits) have proven to be very problematic when it comes to the centralization process of the EU.

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China or Japan I think. Canada's doing better too since Stephen Harper was elected. Canadians (especially quebecians) are waking up and seem to be (finally) thinking by themselves.Jacojac

You mean...Québécois or...Quebecer/Quebecker...:|

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
mayormoose

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

You know the US was hardly in the world wars right? I mean one year inthe firstand missed 3 years of two, you can't say you stopped hitler from taking over the world when back then US, Britain, Canada and Russia all had huge armies, the US and russiawere the only country's after the war in a positionto keepthey're military power, and you know the rest of the story, but honestly china will become big but if a NA union happens most of the power could stay in NA.

[QUOTE="mayormoose"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The USA is not the most powerful country in the world. They don't have the funding or the man power in order to "hold" their power if the need were to arise. All they have is technology and they lose the technology edge, they pretty much would lose any sort of conflict they would become part of.

China right now is probably the most powerful country on the planet in terms of economic development and man power.

China will be the new "West" in a few years as long as there is a smooth transition between petroleum and alternative fuel sources.
mark4091

We would lose? WORLD WAR1 and 2!!! We've stopedAdolf Hitlertrying to take over the world, and have lost only one war. We took out Sadaam Hussan.

You know the US was hardly in the world wars right? I mean one year inthe firstand missed 3 years of two, you can't say you stopped hitler from taking over the world when back then US, Britain, Canada and Russia all had huge armies, the US and russiawere the only country's after the war in a positionto keepthey're military power, and you know the rest of the story, but honestly china will become big but if a NA union happens most of the power could stay in NA.

[QUOTE="bushidotu"][QUOTE="paranoid-monkey"]

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

mig_killer2

Well, could I get some sources regarding this?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="bushidotu"][QUOTE="paranoid-monkey"]

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

isDoooomed

Well, could I get some sources regarding this?

Lots of scientific discoveries have been made by Americans. But the education program is not even in the top 20.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="bushidotu"][QUOTE="paranoid-monkey"]

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

isDoooomed

Well, could I get some sources regarding this?

Of course not: That's a generalization about a subjective quality. Education or IQ could be measured, but even those things aren't the same as intelligence.

About money... I think there are some small European countries that have more (Luxembourg, Switzerland), but overall, after taxes and including prices, Americans can buy more stuff than just about anyone else.

[QUOTE="isDoooomed"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="bushidotu"][QUOTE="paranoid-monkey"]

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

solidsnakeEx3

Well, could I get some sources regarding this?

Lots of scientific discoveries have been made by Americans. But the education program is not even in the top 20.

After education in both Europe and the US, I can tell you honestly that the US is FAR behind Europe (and I'm sure Japan and other areas as well) in education before college. The American universities are just as good though. Also, Americans have invented quite a few things, so you could say that they're smart in some ways, but not in others.

[QUOTE="Jacojac"]China or Japan I think. Canada's doing better too since Stephen Harper was elected. Canadians (especially quebecians) are waking up and seem to be (finally) thinking by themselves.Aznsilvrboy

You mean...Québécois or...Quebecer/Quebecker...:|

Yeah, Québécois. I'm from Quebec myself so my English isn,t that good...:P

[QUOTE="bushidotu"][QUOTE="paranoid-monkey"]

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

mig_killer2

America is NOT the richest. It's the country with the biggest debt on Earth...

[QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"]

[QUOTE="Jacojac"]China or Japan I think. Canada's doing better too since Stephen Harper was elected. Canadians (especially quebecians) are waking up and seem to be (finally) thinking by themselves.Jacojac

You mean...Québécois or...Quebecer/Quebecker...:|

Yeah, Québécois. I'm from Quebec myself so my English isn,t that good...:P

Oh I see...it's cool...8)

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="bushidotu"][QUOTE="paranoid-monkey"]

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

Jacojac

America is NOT the richest. It's the country with the biggest debt on Earth...

Grenada. They may be small and impoverished, but that doesn't mean they can't kick ass. Better start practicing, "Hail Grenada", before it's too late.Greatgone12

[QUOTE="Jacojac"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="bushidotu"][QUOTE="paranoid-monkey"]

Right now, USA is obviously the power country of the world. It being the richest, most poweful, etc. In around 100 years from now (if the earth is still alive), which country do you think wil be the most powerful, would it still be america?

353535355353535

America is NOT the richest. It's the country with the biggest debt on Earth...

It is not the richest, like he said before the debt just may kill it, and the quality of life is lower, and the people don't make that much money, rich is really per person, I mean a family of 8 spreading a lot of money may not have enough to afford luxury's anda single person or a couple splitting a fairly high amount of money that could affordexpensivecars ect would be considered rich.

If they decided to use some of the money in a wise way they would have the power to make life on earth better for everyone, so I do think they could be the super power but right now I would only say dominant military power.