No justice for Eric Garner

If you have ever served on a jury and had half a brain............

I did, and it was fucking terrifying . I never want to be on trial by jury. NEVER.

What do you mean?

I'm saying the majority of the people who end up in a Jury are usually complete imbeciles.

lol, no. Despite popular opinion, there aren't cameras everywhere.

Just a nitpick, a coroner ruling a death a homicide just means that someone else killed the person, it does not mean they were murdered (in the legal sense)

But I would guess a lot of people equate homicide and murder, so it probably helps sell the news, especially in controversial cases. Although this particular case seemed more cut and dry than other recent cases

^^^^In that vein, the choke isn't illegal in New York, it has however been banned from the NYPD.

It is always good to be precise and accurate.

We have a saying where I come from:

"idioma defectuoso, pensamiento defectuoso".

Just asking. I know I can find dated/up close pictures of my house. I have no idea how often snapshots from satellites are taken. I know there is talk of live shots and it just wouldn't surprise me that it's true but the general public doesn't have access to them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2575840/The-breathtaking-LIVE-satellite-footage-Earth-accurate-watch-cars-street-planes-taking-off.html

http://blog.cartodb.com/use-nasas-real-time-satellite-imagery-as-your-basemaps/

Satellites are.

It was the chokehold that caused the death and plus compression of the chest the ME confirmed it. Theres a link to an article that states that in the opening post.

"................ it seems more a case of being the guy with his hand and knee on the guys head that is causing the issue"

Same guy isn't it?

you'd think after being arrested 31 times you'd know not to fight it.

that being said, it seems like something like manslaughter wouldn't be that difficult to charge the cop with.. he clearly didn't intend to kill garner, but his actions resulted in his death.

Arrested 31 times? I'm sure he told the cops this time I dun nuffin as well lol.

With that said, I don't agree with the grand jury decision. If the officer used a move (choke hold) that was against police policy I think it would be reasonable to see it go to trial. Who knows what the entirety of what the grand jury saw though...there was supposed to be 3 other videos and tons of eye witness testimony.

These (excessive use of force) cases are notoriously mishandled by juries. The defense can go through an entire trial repeating, "It is irrelevant whether the defendant was previously committing a crime or not. That is a matter for another trial." and you'll have at least one member saying, "But how do we know he really WASN'T selling cigarettes illegally?" when the deliberation begins. It's extremely difficult for a lot of people to recognize that disconnect.

... Why people even let these organizations run like this.. Why people respect police is beyond me. They clearly haven't earned a shred of it.

To say that police as a whole have never done anything to earn respect is honestly rather ignorant. Generalization at it's finest.

Yeah but the job *attracts* the lazy and the dumb, bullies. Government doesn't want intelligent people with principles in the police force generally. Not to say there aren't people in the force trying their best but it hardly matters in the grand scheme.

It's actually really sad that there's a number of people who share the same views, and a good portion of these people are the ones who continue to lie, exploit others or attempt to resist our actions.

in the end it's all parties involved fault.

the cops apparently have shit training on safe take downs and knowledge about biological factors like capture myopathy and the criminals need to know if your ass is pinched to relax let it go down and get a lawyer.

God forbid the media could ever report on the good things cops do.

No, not really. And they're not nearly as good as the movies would have you believe.

I'd say that notion would apply to all national security employees - the lack of principles part, at least.

I'd say you know nothing about national security employees then....

@cartmanbra:

Yeah, but u don't deserve to be murdered for a small offense.

lol...okay.