[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Noah's Ark is the dumbest and stupidest story in the bible. I can't believe anyone would believe in it.dackchaar

So what do you believe in?

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]It took something like 100 years for Noah to build the ark so it might not have been too much of a problem for 4 men to do it in that length of time. It is entirely possible, however, that he also hired some people to work on the ark as well.legend26

*takes a breath*

The only way to populate the earth was through incest and as we all know that can lead to medical problems. This wouldn't have affected them at first, but after many generations problems likely would have come about which would reduce their lifespan. It was only until the time of Moses that incest was considered wrong (from what I've seen it happened around the world about the same time).

*takes a breath*

Also, climate would have been different before and after the flood which would show why the age of man did not decrease until after the flood. This is quite possibly what killed off the dinosaurs (along with humans killing them like in dragon legends but that's a topic for another day).

Hopefully those theories might help. :D

also if the whole human race was brought by incest then im pretty sure we would all be deformed mutants

and how could adam and eve be considered "perfect" if only god is considered "perfect"

and didnt god tell moses to take 2 of every animal in the ark, so why not dinosaurs? he just left them all to die?

im sorry but allmost everything you said i just cant beleave

Generations after Noah were the ones who lived shorter lives, including his children.

*looks around* I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve looked a tad bit better than any of us with them being perfect and all... Even seen a multi-ethnic child who seemed to be the prettiest child you'd ever seen? They're DNA is closer to the original by being like that (or that's my theory anyway).

Adam and Eve were not completely perfect but their bodies sure as heck were close to it.

Dinosaurs likely did get on the ark. Changes the pictures of Noah (not Moses) taking the animals on the ark you saw as a child doesn't it? They likely died after due to climate change, less food, and humans hunting them (think dragon legends).

I did state it was only theories didn't I? I'm not saying you have to believe them. I'm not even certain if they are completely true myself. I believe the Bible to be true, my theories outside of the Bible may or may not be.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]Noah's Ark is the dumbest and stupidest story in the bible. I can't believe anyone would believe in it.helium_flash

None whatsoever lol. I just really like it :P

Hey guys, I was just thinking, in the bible is says 9 generations passed from adam and eve till the flood. But back then wouldn't a generation been very long due to the life span of those times? And maybe at noah's time they could've been much more advanced than we could have ever imagined, and all that technology was destroyed. It's possible I think.

dackchaar

There are indeed many theories about that. I know a few (I repeat, very few) who believe UFOs are actually highly advanced humans from before the flood. I'm not so certian I believe that....

The canopy around earth ( a giant water vapor high in the atmosphere) filtered out the harmful UV rays and other harmful thigns from outerspace) but the canopy callopsed and caused the flood, and everyone died in the flood but noah and his family, which is why no one else lived as long as them.dackchaar

Whoa whoa whoa... so are you being sarcastic or do you actually believe that a sphere of water surrounded the Earth?

Me,Noah and his kids we all worked together i was the guy feeding and controlling the animals.MgamerBD

where are you in this picture?

[QUOTE="dackchaar"]The canopy around earth ( a giant water vapor high in the atmosphere) filtered out the harmful UV rays and other harmful thigns from outerspace) but the canopy callopsed and caused the flood, and everyone died in the flood but noah and his family, which is why no one else lived as long as them.Red-XIII

Whoa whoa whoa... so are you being sarcastic or do you actually believe that a sphere of water surrounded the Earth?

The Ark was never built. Not to mention there's no evidence of a global flood. But in all in all; it's one of the more amusing tales found in the Bible.espoac

Actually, there is evidence of a regional flood that is reported in several different cultures. But as for a worldwide flood, there's no evidence. And as for the flood being a work of God, nothing outside of the Bible to support it. The "world" at that time was Europe, Asia and Africa. The Americas and Australasia weren't known.

[QUOTE="Xeros606"][QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="Xeros606"]

[QUOTE="noswear"]Neither. You can't work on something that never existed.FUBAR24

:lol: winnar!

they actually found the site of where the ship landed after waters subsided. they carbon-dated pieces of wood that they found and it came from around the time the story took place

:shock: well i got owned. how old are the pieces of wood? and how do they know theyre from the ark?

heres the article

That isn't proof! Note the article is called

Noah's Ark Discovered in Iran?

Note the question mark. Also, use of words like resembles. And the article even says: 'We can't claim to have conclusively found the ark'.

Don't misquote people.

Generations after Noah were the ones who lived shorter lives, including his children.

*looks around* I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve looked a tad bit better than any of us with them being perfect and all... Even seen a multi-ethnic child who seemed to be the prettiest child you'd ever seen? They're DNA is closer to the original by being like that (or that's my theory anyway).

Adam and Eve were not completely perfect but their bodies sure as heck were close to it.

Dinosaurs likely did get on the ark. Changes the pictures of Noah (not Moses) taking the animals on the ark you saw as a child doesn't it? They likely died after due to climate change, less food, and humans hunting them (think dragon legends).

I did state it was only theories didn't I? I'm not saying you have to believe them. I'm not even certain if they are completely true myself. I believe the Bible to be true, my theories outside of the Bible may or may not be.

and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth

and noah could just fit two of every species on one ark? how on earth did he get the food to feed them all? what stoped them from fighting/eating each other?

[QUOTE="dackchaar"]

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Noah's Ark is the dumbest and stupidest story in the bible. I can't believe anyone would believe in it.helium_flash

So what do you believe in?

I know you don't believe in the bible, what do you believe in? And yes it may seem far fetched at times, but I find it to be true. If it weren't far fetched, then what would our God be, powerless? Not able to perform miracles or impossible things? He's on a whole other level than us, over course it will seem crazy. Who would put all trust into God if God didn't create the universe, or did anything for us, and if we simply evovled, and if we look at the bible's miracles as stupid and never happened, then god no longer exists to us (perhaps as an entity floating in space but never interacted with us), and thus we become our own gods.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Me,Noah and his kids we all worked together i was the guy feeding and controlling the animals.cyberdarkkid

where are you in this picture?

Im the guy taking the bucket see i was feeding the animals. how can u miss me?

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legend26

Generations after Noah were the ones who lived shorter lives, including his children.

*looks around* I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve looked a tad bit better than any of us with them being perfect and all... Even seen a multi-ethnic child who seemed to be the prettiest child you'd ever seen? They're DNA is closer to the original by being like that (or that's my theory anyway).

Adam and Eve were not completely perfect but their bodies sure as heck were close to it.

Dinosaurs likely did get on the ark. Changes the pictures of Noah (not Moses) taking the animals on the ark you saw as a child doesn't it? They likely died after due to climate change, less food, and humans hunting them (think dragon legends).

I did state it was only theories didn't I? I'm not saying you have to believe them. I'm not even certain if they are completely true myself. I believe the Bible to be true, my theories outside of the Bible may or may not be.

and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth

and noah could just fit two of every species on one ark? how on earth did he get the food to feed them all? what stoped them from fighting/eating each other?

This might help you

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/dinosark.html

[QUOTE="Xeros606"]

[QUOTE="noswear"]Neither. You can't work on something that never existed.FUBAR24

:lol: winnar!

they actually found the site of where the ship landed after waters subsided. they carbon-dated pieces of wood that they found and it came from around the time the story took place

So... they found pieces of a boat from a long time ago...?

I bet they didn't have too many boats back then....

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legend26

Generations after Noah were the ones who lived shorter lives, including his children.

*looks around* I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve looked a tad bit better than any of us with them being perfect and all... Even seen a multi-ethnic child who seemed to be the prettiest child you'd ever seen? They're DNA is closer to the original by being like that (or that's my theory anyway).

Adam and Eve were not completely perfect but their bodies sure as heck were close to it.

Dinosaurs likely did get on the ark. Changes the pictures of Noah (not Moses) taking the animals on the ark you saw as a child doesn't it? They likely died after due to climate change, less food, and humans hunting them (think dragon legends).

I did state it was only theories didn't I? I'm not saying you have to believe them. I'm not even certain if they are completely true myself. I believe the Bible to be true, my theories outside of the Bible may or may not be.

and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth

and noah could just fit two of every species on one ark? how on earth did he get the food to feed them all? what stoped them from fighting/eating each other?

Eggs? Also there were less species of animals at that time, think of it like this. That's like Saying two people (adam and eve) couldn't have reproduced and eventually the different people of earth spawned (Blacks, Asians, White etc.) There were say one kind of wolf (or dog) for instance, and those two reproduced and they changed into more specific groups of canines (dogs, wolves etc.) The reason of this is the single unified pangea continent with the uniform climate, due to this climat, each type of animal(canines or frogs or whatever) were all uniform due to this, the pangea split after the flood and caused total differnt climates around the world, these new climates changed the animals (like a normal wolf snow wolves or bear to polar bears)

[QUOTE="legend26"][

cyberdarkkid

Generations after Noah were the ones who lived shorter lives, including his children.

*looks around* I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve looked a tad bit better than any of us with them being perfect and all... Even seen a multi-ethnic child who seemed to be the prettiest child you'd ever seen? They're DNA is closer to the original by being like that (or that's my theory anyway).

Adam and Eve were not completely perfect but their bodies sure as heck were close to it.

Dinosaurs likely did get on the ark. Changes the pictures of Noah (not Moses) taking the animals on the ark you saw as a child doesn't it? They likely died after due to climate change, less food, and humans hunting them (think dragon legends).

I did state it was only theories didn't I? I'm not saying you have to believe them. I'm not even certain if they are completely true myself. I believe the Bible to be true, my theories outside of the Bible may or may not be.

and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth

and noah could just fit two of every species on one ark? how on earth did he get the food to feed them all? what stoped them from fighting/eating each other?

This might help you

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/dinosark.html

how the heck could noah fit this

and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth

and noah could just fit two of every species on one ark? how on earth did he get the food to feed them all? what stoped them from fighting/eating each other?

legend26

The Bible says every kind of animal was put on the ark. That means every breed of dog and wolf didn't get on the ark, just two dogs or two wolves. Insects and fish also did not have to get on the ark either. With all that in mind the number of animals would only have been in the thousands.

Many believe animals did not eat meat until after the flood and therefore would have had no reason to attack each other. Genesis also mentions to Noah to bring every type of food upon the ark to eat. Also, I'm pretty sure if they ran out of food God could have provided for them just like he did the Jews in the wilderness. Some also theorize the animals may have entered a hypnotic state while upon the ark (like bears in the winter).

Anything else?

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="legend26"][

legend26

Generations after Noah were the ones who lived shorter lives, including his children.

*looks around* I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve looked a tad bit better than any of us with them being perfect and all... Even seen a multi-ethnic child who seemed to be the prettiest child you'd ever seen? They're DNA is closer to the original by being like that (or that's my theory anyway).

Adam and Eve were not completely perfect but their bodies sure as heck were close to it.

Dinosaurs likely did get on the ark. Changes the pictures of Noah (not Moses) taking the animals on the ark you saw as a child doesn't it? They likely died after due to climate change, less food, and humans hunting them (think dragon legends).

I did state it was only theories didn't I? I'm not saying you have to believe them. I'm not even certain if they are completely true myself. I believe the Bible to be true, my theories outside of the Bible may or may not be.

and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth

and noah could just fit two of every species on one ark? how on earth did he get the food to feed them all? what stoped them from fighting/eating each other?

This might help you

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/dinosark.html

I don't understand, if its just a few hundred animals then how would finding food for 40 days be an impossible task? Maybe hard, but not impossible. Also, if we are to believe this happened (which we are as of now) then we believe there is a God, which would be able to tame these animals. Not sure what you're talking about the dinosaurs here? Also it says in the bible that God made the animals come to Noah.

[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="dackchaar"]

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Noah's Ark is the dumbest and stupidest story in the bible. I can't believe anyone would believe in it.dackchaar

So what do you believe in?

I know you don't believe in the bible, what do you believe in? And yes it may seem far fetched at times, but I find it to be true. If it weren't far fetched, then what would our God be, powerless? Not able to perform miracles or impossible things? He's on a whole other level than us, over course it will seem crazy. Who would put all trust into God if God didn't create the universe, or did anything for us, and if we simply evovled, and if we look at the bible's miracles as stupid and never happened, then god no longer exists to us (perhaps as an entity floating in space but never interacted with us), and thus we become our own gods.

I don't believe in a god, but I'm not against the idea that there could be a god.

that still dosnt explain HOW Noah got the FOOD to feed every single animal on the ark, and what stopped them from eating eachother, also some dinosaurs could reach maturity in a short amount of time...and there is no way noah could get two of every animal on earthlegend26

"'And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive."

As you can see it wasn't exactly 2 of every single animal on earth, it is actually saying 2 of every species.

For the food, God also said to carry 7 of each clean animal by clean he meant "ok to eat (fish,chicken)" and they also carried grain,etc. , and then collect water from the rain to drink.

The animals did not eat each other because they were separated "after their kind".

[QUOTE="legend26"]

how the heck could noah fit this

and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth

and noah could just fit two of every species on one ark? how on earth did he get the food to feed them all? what stoped them from fighting/eating each other?

mindstorm

The Bible says every kind of animal was put on the ark. That means every breed of dog and wolf didn't get on the ark, just two dogs or two wolves. Insects and fish also did not have to get on the ark either. With all that in mind the number of animals would only have been in the thousands.

Many believe animals did not eat meat until after the flood and therefore would have had no reason to attack each other. Genesis also mentions to Noah to bring every type of food upon the ark to eat. Also, I'm pretty sure if they ran out of food God could have provided for them just like he did the Jews in the wilderness. Some also theorize the animals may have entered a hypnotic state while upon the ark (like bears in the winter).

Anything else?

example

2 random dogs

= thousnads of other dog breeds???

and you also say insects did not get in the ark, so they all died? if all the insects died the ecohsystem and food chain would collapse.

and before the flood animals diddnt eat meat?

well what the heck did these lions and other meat eaters eat? plants? those sharp fangs are for plants? their digestive system only tolorated plants then in 40 days. "hmm lets eat meat!"

and even with only a few thousand i dought they could all fit in one place...

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="legend26"]

how the heck could noah fit this

and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth

and noah could just fit two of every species on one ark? how on earth did he get the food to feed them all? what stoped them from fighting/eating each other?

legend26

The Bible says every kind of animal was put on the ark. That means every breed of dog and wolf didn't get on the ark, just two dogs or two wolves. Insects and fish also did not have to get on the ark either. With all that in mind the number of animals would only have been in the thousands.

Many believe animals did not eat meat until after the flood and therefore would have had no reason to attack each other. Genesis also mentions to Noah to bring every type of food upon the ark to eat. Also, I'm pretty sure if they ran out of food God could have provided for them just like he did the Jews in the wilderness. Some also theorize the animals may have entered a hypnotic state while upon the ark (like bears in the winter).

Anything else?

example

2 random dogs

= thousnads of other dog breeds???

and you also say insects did not get in the ark, so they all died? if all the insects died the ecohsystem and food chain would collapse.

and before the flood animals diddnt eat meat?

well what the heck did these lions and other meat eaters eat? plants? those sharp fangs are for plants? their digestive system only tolorated plants then in 40 days. "hmm lets eat meat!"

and even with only a few thousand i dought they could all fit in one place...

Many insects can survive in and on top of water... Ever seen a ball of ants float on water?

And about the nonmeat eating lions. To my knowledge there are certain types of bears with long sharp teeth that do not eat meat. What's to say other animals couldn't do the same thing?

You doubt a few thousand would fit on the boat even? There are boats that can hold that many humans...

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]It took something like 100 years for Noah to build the ark so it might not have been too much of a problem for 4 men to do it in that length of time. It is entirely possible, however, that he also hired some people to work on the ark as well.legend26

*takes a breath*

The only way to populate the earth was through incest and as we all know that can lead to medical problems. This wouldn't have affected them at first, but after many generations problems likely would have come about which would reduce their lifespan. It was only until the time of Moses that incest was considered wrong (from what I've seen it happened around the world about the same time).

*takes a breath*

Also, climate would have been different before and after the flood which would show why the age of man did not decrease until after the flood. This is quite possibly what killed off the dinosaurs (along with humans killing them like in dragon legends but that's a topic for another day).

Hopefully those theories might help. :D

also if the whole human race was brought by incest then im pretty sure we would all be deformed mutants

and how could adam and eve be considered "perfect" if only god is considered "perfect"

and didnt god tell moses to take 2 of every animal in the ark, so why not dinosaurs? he just left them all to die?

im sorry but allmost everything you said i just cant beleave

I'm probably missing somethig but did you say moses took animals on the ark?

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]It took something like 100 years for Noah to build the ark so it might not have been too much of a problem for 4 men to do it in that length of time. It is entirely possible, however, that he also hired some people to work on the ark as well.viper1991

*takes a breath*

The only way to populate the earth was through incest and as we all know that can lead to medical problems. This wouldn't have affected them at first, but after many generations problems likely would have come about which would reduce their lifespan. It was only until the time of Moses that incest was considered wrong (from what I've seen it happened around the world about the same time).

*takes a breath*

Also, climate would have been different before and after the flood which would show why the age of man did not decrease until after the flood. This is quite possibly what killed off the dinosaurs (along with humans killing them like in dragon legends but that's a topic for another day).

Hopefully those theories might help. :D

also if the whole human race was brought by incest then im pretty sure we would all be deformed mutants

and how could adam and eve be considered "perfect" if only god is considered "perfect"

and didnt god tell moses to take 2 of every animal in the ark, so why not dinosaurs? he just left them all to die?

im sorry but allmost everything you said i just cant beleave

I'm probably missing somethig but did you say moses took animals on the ark?

[QUOTE="noswear"]Neither. You can't work on something that never existed.LJS9502_basic

OWNED.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="noswear"]Neither. You can't work on something that never existed.UltimaSlayer94

OWNED.

How? There is no proof that anyone found part of the ark.

Many insects can survive in and on top of water... Ever seen a ball of ants float on water?

And about the nonmeat eating lions. To my knowledge there are certain types of bears with long sharp teeth that do not eat meat. What's to say other animals couldn't do the same thing?

You doubt a few thousand would fit on the boat even? There are boats that can hold that many humans...

just becouse certain types of bears do not eat meat does not mean all meat eaters evolved that adaptation.

and even if you can fit thousands of animals on a boat you still need room for them to move. and having thousands of animals on a boat probalby isnt verry spaceious.

[QUOTE="viper1991"][QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]It took something like 100 years for Noah to build the ark so it might not have been too much of a problem for 4 men to do it in that length of time. It is entirely possible, however, that he also hired some people to work on the ark as well.mindstorm

*takes a breath*

The only way to populate the earth was through incest and as we all know that can lead to medical problems. This wouldn't have affected them at first, but after many generations problems likely would have come about which would reduce their lifespan. It was only until the time of Moses that incest was considered wrong (from what I've seen it happened around the world about the same time).

*takes a breath*

Also, climate would have been different before and after the flood which would show why the age of man did not decrease until after the flood. This is quite possibly what killed off the dinosaurs (along with humans killing them like in dragon legends but that's a topic for another day).

Hopefully those theories might help. :D

also if the whole human race was brought by incest then im pretty sure we would all be deformed mutants

and how could adam and eve be considered "perfect" if only god is considered "perfect"

and didnt god tell moses to take 2 of every animal in the ark, so why not dinosaurs? he just left them all to die?

im sorry but allmost everything you said i just cant beleave

I'm probably missing somethig but did you say moses took animals on the ark?

I find the fact that some people believe this story HIGHLY amusing.

Some of my close friends do. Its actually hilarious when they try to argue that it happened. It always comes back to the account of the BASE team who found the so-called ark in the mountains and the fact that it is possible to build an ark.

Both which are a crock of crap. Its not possible to build an ark that can carry a pair of animals from every species on the planet. Not even close. But then again, as with all stories in the bible its taken on FAITH and faith alone; those who reason come up with UNBELIEVABLE ideas like that God subdued the animals, compacted their genetic information so that a single species could carry all the information of its sub-species.

Oh, and that the water for the flood come from God.

Fundies need to learn that it is not PHYSICALLY possible for the story to be true under our current understanding of life. If they pushed the line that it happened under supernatural conditions then mabye they would stop embarrasing themselves in such a hillarious and epic maner.

Problem is, they DON'T. It HAS to fit our understanding of science apparently, otherwise the bible is 100% wrong! Its like how some fundies claim that if genesis is wrong or even ALLEGORICAL then the ENTIRE book is false, which of course you would actually need to be mentally retarded to believe.

Neither. You can't work on something that never existed.noswear

I can see this thread go to a whole new direction.

Heh.. i guess i´m late to the party.

Threads like these always make me keep coming back here. I can't stop laughing about the things some people believe/say here. :lol:C_Town_Soul

second

*takes a breath*

The only way to populate the earth was through incest and as we all know that can lead to medical problems. This wouldn't have affected them at first, but after many generations problems likely would have come about which would reduce their lifespan. It was only until the time of Moses that incest was considered wrong (from what I've seen it happened around the world about the same time).

mindstorm

If the noah's ark and the flood really happened, humans and any other animals would most likely die out because of low genetic diversity. The aftermath of a worldwide flood would create a huge environmental change. Animals including humans would have to adapt to this new environment in order to survive. We know with natural selection, gene variation is necessary to adapt in survive. However with only "2 of each 'kind'", there would be almost no genetic diversity at all and thus, giving almost no chance for that 'kind' to survive, let alone create each species of that 'kind'. The problem of low genetic variaton forces inbreeding, and in first generation inbreds can cause many problems such as reduced fertility, increased genetic disorders, lower birth rate, higher infant mortality, and loss of immune system function.

Just take a look at cheetahs for example. They are a threatened species. Low genetic diversity results in poor sperm quality means that only 5% of all cheetahs make it to adulthood. Now there are way more cheetahs currently than there were supposedly the two original cats on the ark, and you're really going to believe that those two, along with the other coupled "kinds" were going to survive and repopulate the earth and not die out!?!?

Reality check. Noah's ark did not happened. Get over it.

(it won't let me quote you for some weird reason)

legend26 wrote:

"and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth"

True, there are billions of animals on earth now. But whose to say that there were that many back then? I believe that certain animals evolved after the flood. For example Noah could have had cats on his Arc, through time those cats could have evolved into all the modern day creatures of the feline family, such as lions, tigers, leopards, etc. Same theory works for any animal species (or dinosaur, for that matter) really.

(it won't let me quote you for some weird reason)

legend26 wrote:

"and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth"

True, there are billions of animals on earth now. But whose to say that there were that many back then? I believe that certain animals evolved after the flood. For example Noah could have had cats on his Arc, through time those cats could have evolved into all the modern day creatures of the feline family, such as lions, tigers, leopards, etc. Same theory works for any animal species (or dinosaur, for that matter) really.

omfg_its_dally

Although I could of also just said that they already know the first felines appeared 9 million years ago which demolishes the idea of an ark and a worldwide flood.

[QUOTE="omfg_its_dally"]

(it won't let me quote you for some weird reason)

legend26 wrote:

"and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth"

True, there are billions of animals on earth now. But whose to say that there were that many back then? I believe that certain animals evolved after the flood. For example Noah could have had cats on his Arc, through time those cats could have evolved into all the modern day creatures of the feline family, such as lions, tigers, leopards, etc. Same theory works for any animal species (or dinosaur, for that matter) really.

C_Town_Soul

Although I could of also just said that they already know the first felines appeared 9 million years ago which demolishes the idea of an ark and a worldwide flood.

Yeah, but where is it ever said that the events of Noahs arc were just a few thousand years ago? And if that was in the Bible, which I don't remember it being, I believe that the Bible uses a lot of symbolism and a thousand biblical years could be a million of ours.

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"]Threads like these always make me keep coming back here. I can't stop laughing about the things some people believe/say here. :lol:blackmagesm

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legend26 wrote:

"and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth"

True, there are billions of animals on earth now. But whose to say that there were that many back then? I believe that certain animals evolved after the flood. For example Noah could have had cats on his Arc, through time those cats could have evolved into all the modern day creatures of the feline family, such as lions, tigers, leopards, etc. Same theory works for any animal species (or dinosaur, for that matter) really.

omfg_its_dally

Although I could of also just said that they already know the first felines appeared 9 million years ago which demolishes the idea of an ark and a worldwide flood.

Yeah, but where is it ever said that the events of Noahs arc were just a few thousand years ago? And if that was in the Bible, which I don't remember it being, I believe that the Bible uses a lot of symbolism and a thousand biblical years could be a million of ours.

heres the articlehttp://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060705-noahs-ark.htmlFUBAR24

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(it won't let me quote you for some weird reason)

legend26 wrote:

"and two of every other dinosaur and animal in the ark? thats the biggest flaw in the story, their are billions of animals on earth"

True, there are billions of animals on earth now. But whose to say that there were that many back then? I believe that certain animals evolved after the flood. For example Noah could have had cats on his Arc, through time those cats could have evolved into all the modern day creatures of the feline family, such as lions, tigers, leopards, etc. Same theory works for any animal species (or dinosaur, for that matter) really.

C_Town_Soul

Although I could of also just said that they already know the first felines appeared 9 million years ago which demolishes the idea of an ark and a worldwide flood.

Yeah, but where is it ever said that the events of Noahs arc were just a few thousand years ago? And if that was in the Bible, which I don't remember it being, I believe that the Bible uses a lot of symbolism and a thousand biblical years could be a million of ours.

I suppose so, but aren't there any unexplained time gaps in the OT? My theory after all is just a theory, too.

I suppose so, but aren't there any unexplained time gaps in the OT? My theory after all is just a theory, too.

omfg_its_dally

How did Noah fit 2 of every species onto a boat whose dimensions were smaller than most cruise ships today?

How did he keep the carnivores from eating the herbivores?

Did he bring extra animals to feed the carnivores? If so, then he brought more than 2 of each, therefore the story lies about how many animals were brought aboard. If he didn't bring extra animals to feed the carnivores, what did they eat for 40 days?

Did Noah bring plants aboard to feed the herbivores? He must have, or they would have died. A 40 day food supply would take up even more room on board a ship that was too small for it's purpose to begin with.

What did Noah and his family eat?

Assuming everyone got to eat, how did they deal with 40 days worth of feces and urine building up inside the ship?

Did Noah build seperate tanks for the freshwater and saltwater fish? He would have had to, since neither species could survive in the others' environment. That would take up even more room. Not to mention, many species of fish don't get along with each other, so how did he keep them from fighting, and eating each other? At the end of the 40 days, surely some would have been lost, thus Noah would have failed his mission.

How about dolphins, sharks, and whales? How did they fit, and what did they eat?

How did he keep all of the other animals from fighting with each other too? And how could a few human beings honestly keep an entire zoo full of wild beasts from attacking them, as well? How did Noah and his family avoid being mauled by an angry animal? Did he kill any animals that attacked him? If so, he failed his mission.

How could Noah and his family sleep? They surely would have been attacked in their sleep. If they never slept, they eventually would have run out of energy to corral and control the animals, and would have been taken over. If they took turns sleeping in shifts, the one or two who were awake would not have been enough manpower to keep hundreds or even thousands of wild animals under control.

How did Noah find insects like fleas? Microscopic spiders, mites, and other creatures too small to see with the naked eye? Even if he found them, how did he keep from stepping on them? Did he put them all in their own seperate tanks? Even more room being taken up...

How did Noah successfully find chameleons, given the fact that they would have camaflouged themselves to avoid detection? Did he sit around and wait for them to make a mistake a pop up out of their camaflouge? How could he do all this, with a 100% success rate, and all in the limited time he was given?

Did Noah even know where to go to find all of these different species?

Assuming the whole story took place the way they said it did, after the flood had subsided, how did Noah successfully lead all the animals back to their native habitats? And how did all those animals survive for 40 days in the first place, outside of their natural habitat? Did Noah actually carve out sections in the ark, and recreate every animals' native ecosystem within those sections? How would he keep all of that under control given the lack of technology, and how would he keep some from perishing, as a result of being seperated from their native habitat? If even one animal died, the mission is failed.

So, how?

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I suppose so, but aren't there any unexplained time gaps in the OT? My theory after all is just a theory, too.

C_Town_Soul

Scientific preposition? :P

yes but not all insects can float on water, butterflys, coackroaches, beetles, grass hoppers, an endless list, also arachnids (spiders, scorpions) also spiders are not social animals so they have no one to "ball up on". and yes ive seen ants float, but they would not have food to live for 40 days and also fresh water. not to mention if it rained they would all drown.

just becouse certain types of bears do not eat meat does not mean all meat eaters evolved that adaptation.

and even if you can fit thousands of animals on a boat you still need room for them to move. and having thousands of animals on a boat probalby isnt verry spaceious.

legend26

Well let's see if these Creationists are right. Let's get thousand of different bug species and throw them in a pool.

Next, we'll start feeding every carnivore at the zoo plants for 40 days and see how many die.

Aim: To prove that the concept of insects floating and carnivores eating plants is impossible
Materials:
Thousands of insects
A giant pool
At least a dozen different species of carnivores of different genus
40 days supply of vegetarian meals for a dozen or more large animals

Method:
- Take bugs to pool
- Throw bugs in to pool
- Observe and record how many float and live

-Feed carnivores plants for 40 days.
-Observe and record health until the end of the time period

Results:
???

Conclusion:
???

You see that? That is how you prove this to be true. Not with "some insects can float" and "some bears can eat plants so other carnivores can". Use the scientific method, present your results, prove without a doubt it's true. Maybe then people will take your myths seriously.

Wow, this thread is... well, there goes my faith in humanity.Funky_Llama

I warned you. :lol: