North American Union

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]First the EU, now the NAU? Pretty soon we'll have the Asian Union as well. Then everyone will see how well it works and they'll all join into one big union. Can anybody say One World Government? I don't like the sound of that. Reminds me too much of the end time prophecies in the Bible.RicardoIII

ZEIGEIST FTW!

1984.

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then search for another documentery America Freedom To Fascism by Aaron.Russo

WAKE UP WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

xnatasx2003

And as for Aaron Russo, I find it rather dodgy that you have a person who claims to have known about 9/11 ELEVEN MONTHS IN ADVANCE. >_>

What here watch this and tell me nothing is happening NAU is already a done deal. I do not know much about Aaron Russo Except for the income tax documentry so I can't comment on 9/11 I give you that. Alex Jones on the other hand I do like and have done research on alot of his findings and have found all that I have looked into to be true. I am worried about what is going on and the things that our president is doing alone without any involvment from we the people or any other part of our goverment. There may be thing's your waiting to see come true along with the majority of others but what the problem with that is..... Once it's done it's too late!!! Don't wait till it comes to be that's a bad idea. Anyway's I just am trying to give information so that you and anyone else can do the research and see for yourself that there is a problem. here is a link please check it out it's 9 minutes long. I would like to know what you think of the this and if you want some more i'll get you more info. Thank's for the input. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GHijdPM3Rjs&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=cnn+nau&hl=en&sitesearch=

I don't care about your little documentaries. Give me proof.

If this "North American Union" is anything like the European Union, it'll be a process that takes years, and it sure as hell isn't something that leaves the populace in the dark about it. >_>

Well leaving people out is whatn it's about. Go look for yourself don't get all pissy and ignorant at me. Google cnn and the NAU north american union. Lou Dobbs who is a cnn reporter has several clips there! Your are saying that cnn is lieing... check it out yourself. How about the Bilderberg Group? Why don't you leave the forum and actually do some research! I was trying to be nice but I see that you for some reason want to get angary. Don't get mad. Go prove me wrong but when you go and actually do some work and start searching for yourself you will not like what you find. So before you sit there and start replying back get educated on the facts! And last thing, If they told us what they were doing then they would never get away with it or get away with the crap they already have done! There already is a NORTH AMERICAN UNION THERE IS PROOF AND DOCUMENTATION. I pray to god others actually search and look into this and don't take my word or this other guy's word. DO SOME RESEARCH PEOPLE SEE FOR YOURSELVES PLEASE. I will not be commenting back to you until you are civil and have more than words to prove whatever it is you think is a lie.

I really didn't want to be arguing with you. I appologize to everyone else.

I don't care about your little documentaries. Give me proof.

If this "North American Union" is anything like the European Union, it'll be a process that takes years, and it sure as hell isn't something that leaves the populace in the dark about it. >_>

PannicAtack

wtf? You mean you haven't heard? have you been living under a rock for the past 10 years or something?

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]First the EU, now the NAU? Pretty soon we'll have the Asian Union as well. Then everyone will see how well it works and they'll all join into one big union. Can anybody say One World Government? I don't like the sound of that. Reminds me too much of the end time prophecies in the Bible.Truth_Seekr

Sadly, a lot of people pretend to be oblivious to it, even tho right now we have an African Union - European Union and Union of South American Nations, which should be hints/evidence of the "harmonizing/unionizing" of governments

Seriously, whats the big deal about us potentially teaming up with Canada to foster economic growth?

Don't we have more important things that we actually should be worrying about (e.g., the upcoming election, iran, the war in iraq, darfur, global warming, etc)?

Seriously, whats the big deal about us potentially teaming up with Canada to foster economic growth?

Don't we have more important things that we actually should be worrying about. The upcoming election, the war in iraq, darfur, global warming, starvation, etc?

MeanQuestion

The real problem is teaming up with Mexico.

[QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

Seriously, whats the big deal about us potentially teaming up with Canada to foster economic growth?

Don't we have more important things that we actually should be worrying about. The upcoming election, the war in iraq, darfur, global warming, starvation, etc?

ElectronicMagic

The real problem is teaming up with Mexico.

God forbid we lower tariffs, move some of our factories there, and help grow Mexico's economy, thereby reducing emigration from the country?

[QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"][QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

Seriously, whats the big deal about us potentially teaming up with Canada to foster economic growth?

Don't we have more important things that we actually should be worrying about. The upcoming election, the war in iraq, darfur, global warming, starvation, etc?

MeanQuestion

The real problem is teaming up with Mexico.

God forbid we lower tariffs, move some of our factories there, and help grow Mexico's economy, thereby reducing emigration from the country?

I doubt any of that would stop them from immigrating here. Mexico is a third world country, it is riff with corruption and poverty, having a North American Union with them in it would effect everyone else in the union badly. Also, if there was a union, the border police would be much more relaxed than it is now, since security would be handled like one big country instead of three separate one's.

^^

This is more important than teh conspiracies guys. Why not invest yourself emotionally in something that actually matters.

I doubt any of that would stop them from immigrating here. Mexico is a third world country, it is riff with corruption and poverty, having a North American Union with them in it would effect everyone else in the union badly. Also, if there was a union, the border police would be much more relaxed than it is now, since security would be handled like one big country instead of three separate one's.

ElectronicMagic

1. I don't see how relaxing border security is necessarily part of forming a Union.

2. The corruption won't spread out of the country, and, if anything, having the US and Canada watching from afar will reduce it.

3. Having a nearby 3rd world country with lower tarrifs to exploit will help our economy, giving us some deeply needed help competing with Europe and developing countries in Asia.

4. Doing business with third world countries strenghtens their economy, which reduces poverty and corruption. So we'd be doing Mexico a favor too.

Its just not a big deal.

1. I don't see how relaxing border security is necessarily part of forming a Union.

2. The corruption won't spread out of the country, and, if anything, having the US and Canada watching from afar will reduce it.

3. Having a nearby 3rd world country with lower tarrifs to exploit will help our economy, giving us some deeply needed help competing with Europe and developing countries in Asia.

4. Doing business with third world countries strenghtens their economy, which reduces poverty and corruption. So we'd be doing Mexico a favor too.

Its just not a big deal.

MeanQuestion

1. It's just what would happen, it's a great way to get rid of the border issue. They already have a plan to some day implement it, without even having a North American Union. It's so that all security would be handled as if one country and not three. All the way down to not having to use a passport to cross borders between the United States, Canada and Mexico.

2. I didn't mean that it would, I'm saying that we shouldn't be connected with them in terms of being a union because of their wide spread corruption.

3. Mexico's economy is so bad that all it would do is bring the other two countries economies down, with Canada and America having to flip the bill for Mexico without them contributing anything like the other two are.

4. We'd be doing them a favor, yes. Just like we did them a favor with NAFTA, which hasn't helped us out any. Don't get me wrong, a North American Union would be great....for Mexico.

^^

This is more important than teh conspiracies guys. Why not invest yourself emotionally in something that actually matters.

MeanQuestion

[QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

1. I don't see how relaxing border security is necessarily part of forming a Union.

2. The corruption won't spread out of the country, and, if anything, having the US and Canada watching from afar will reduce it.

3. Having a nearby 3rd world country with lower tarrifs to exploit will help our economy, giving us some deeply needed help competing with Europe and developing countries in Asia.

4. Doing business with third world countries strenghtens their economy, which reduces poverty and corruption. So we'd be doing Mexico a favor too.

Its just not a big deal.

ElectronicMagic

1. It's just what would happen, it's a great way to get rid of the border issue. They already have a plan to some day implement it, without even having a North American Union. It's so that all security would be handled as if one country and not three. All the way down to not having to use a passport to cross borders between the United States, Canada and Mexico.

3. Mexico's economy is so bad that all it would do is bring the other two countries economies down, with Canada and America having to flip the bill for Mexico without them contributing anything like the other two are.

1. Could you provide some links about pending legislation regarding that (from sources generally accepted as reliable, if possible)

3. Flip the bill for Mexico? What bill and have you taken a look at the national debt lately?

Now we can't say, "DEY TOOK OUR JERBS!"

Dammit....

[QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]

[QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

1. I don't see how relaxing border security is necessarily part of forming a Union.

2. The corruption won't spread out of the country, and, if anything, having the US and Canada watching from afar will reduce it.

3. Having a nearby 3rd world country with lower tarrifs to exploit will help our economy, giving us some deeply needed help competing with Europe and developing countries in Asia.

4. Doing business with third world countries strenghtens their economy, which reduces poverty and corruption. So we'd be doing Mexico a favor too.

Its just not a big deal.

MeanQuestion

1. It's just what would happen, it's a great way to get rid of the border issue. They already have a plan to some day implement it, without even having a North American Union. It's so that all security would be handled as if one country and not three. All the way down to not having to use a passport to cross borders between the United States, Canada and Mexico.

3. Mexico's economy is so bad that all it would do is bring the other two countries economies down, with Canada and America having to flip the bill for Mexico without them contributing anything like the other two are.

1. Could you provide some links about pending legislation regarding that (from sources generally accepted as reliable, if possible)

3. Flip the bill for Mexico? What bill and have you taken a look at the national debt lately?

I never said that there was any legislation, there is just theoretical strategies that the people in charge of further integrating the United States, Canada and Mexico have. Yes, flip the bill for Mexico, Mexico is a third world country, they have a terrible economy that would cause our's and Canada's to drag further. The United States economy isn't the greatest, but it has potential to right itself, the Mexican economy has a lesser chance of righting itself.

^^

This is more important than teh conspiracies guys. Why not invest yourself emotionally in something that actually matters.

MeanQuestion

Perhaps because those conspiring against the people could be the same people keeping certain nations from developing, keeping them at a state of desperation, hunger and the like

[QUOTE="MeanQuestion"][QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]

[QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

1. I don't see how relaxing border security is necessarily part of forming a Union.

2. The corruption won't spread out of the country, and, if anything, having the US and Canada watching from afar will reduce it.

3. Having a nearby 3rd world country with lower tarrifs to exploit will help our economy, giving us some deeply needed help competing with Europe and developing countries in Asia.

4. Doing business with third world countries strenghtens their economy, which reduces poverty and corruption. So we'd be doing Mexico a favor too.

Its just not a big deal.

ElectronicMagic

1. It's just what would happen, it's a great way to get rid of the border issue. They already have a plan to some day implement it, without even having a North American Union. It's so that all security would be handled as if one country and not three. All the way down to not having to use a passport to cross borders between the United States, Canada and Mexico.

3. Mexico's economy is so bad that all it would do is bring the other two countries economies down, with Canada and America having to flip the bill for Mexico without them contributing anything like the other two are.

1. Could you provide some links about pending legislation regarding that (from sources generally accepted as reliable, if possible)

3. Flip the bill for Mexico? What bill and have you taken a look at the national debt lately?

I never said that there was any legislation, there is just theoretical strategies that the people in charge of further integrating the United States, Canada and Mexico have. Yes, flip the bill for Mexico, Mexico is a third world country, they have a terrible economy that would cause our's and Canada's to drag further. The United States economy isn't the greatest, but it has potential to right itself, the Mexican economy has a lesser chance of righting itself.

Well if there's no legislation I don't think you have anything to worry about. Considering how the borders and national security were issues in the current election, I highly doubt the current administration and the people would be ready to support such a proposal in the near future.

Whether or not having open borders would be a good idea (and there are good arguments for and against it) just doesn't seem relevent enough to be worth considering at this point.

Well if there's no legislation I don't think you have anything to worry about. Considering how the borders and national security were issues in the current election, I highly doubt the current administration and the people would be ready to support such a proposal in the near future.

Whether or not having open borders would be a good idea (and there are good arguments for and against it) just doesn't seem relevent enough to be worth considering at this point.

MeanQuestion

Well they got NAFTA in, which is the precursor to further social and economic integration with Canada and Mexico, so I guess we will just have to wait and see how far this goes. I would agree that there are arguments for and against open borders, but most of those arguments for are from the same people who claim that illegal immigration is somehow helping the United States economy, instead of siphoning resources and building up costs from illegals using our social systems.

So many Americans in denial about this. The whole Trade benefits is how the EU started off...Now look at it, proven corrupt to its core and when Ireland voted NO to the Lisbon Treaty what did the EU leaders say? That Ireland had to correct the outcome to get the right vote...Any Union will end up corrupt and eventually try to form a superstate. It is the road to Facism. The EU certainly proves that with the way it handles its affairs. Though if Americans want Canadians deciding American laws in years to come, feel free to go ahead with it.
Though I guess if Europe must suffer a Union despite a majority opposed then so should the rest of the world =)
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