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#1 spazzx625
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NEW YORK (AFP) - Police in New Jersey ordered a snow sculpture modeled on the famous nude Venus de Milo to be covered up after a neighbor complained, the artist said Thursday.

Elisa Gonzalez, 44, carved the ancient Greek-c1assic torso from snow on her front lawn in Rahway and says her work was initially a hit.

"It looked very beautiful," she said. "We got a lot of attention from people in the neighborhood. Some of them got out and took pictures and spoke to us."

One neighbor clearly felt the snow nude -- headless, armless, and cut off above the knees -- was too hot.

"We had a visit from the local police who told us that a neighbor had complained about the statue and we needed to cover it up or knock it down," Gonzalez said. "We didn't want to have any problem with the police so we covered it up."

The original Venus de Milo, which is housed in Paris' Louvre museum, depicts a nude woman. She also is without arms, although her head is intact.Article

And possibly the best part of the story...The picture.

What do you think? Are snowwomen a valid source of nudity?

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#2 Teenaged
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I think they are. Like a statue is. Idk.

I mean there are loads of ancient statues of half naked women in museums and I dont think parents cover their children's eyes when they visit them.

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#3 TheShadowLord07
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whats the big deal? you can see stuff like that in museums. and I don't think anyone has complain about them yet

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#4 MagikarpSplash
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At first, I read it as "show woman". Obviously some virgin prude didn't agree with it.
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#5 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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I'm going to wait for the next snow storm, then I'll make a phallic shaped snow statue in my front yard and see how many complaints are filed.

People are too sensitive.

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#6 spazzx625
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I think they are. Like a statue is. Idk.

I mean there are loads of ancient statues of half naked women in museums and I dont think parents cover their children's eyes when they visit them.

Teenaged

whats the big deal? you can see stuff like that in museums. and I don't think anyone has complain about them yet

TheShadowLord07
Yes, but you go to a museum to see art, you may not want it forced on you? I think it's silly to cover up a snowwoman, but I'm just not sure about the museum thing
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#7 Duckman5
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That's idiotic, that think looks genuinely like a piece of art. What do these people say about sculptures in museums?
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#8 Xorital
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That's just silly...Art is difforent from sexual nudity

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#9 Engrish_Major
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My neighbors and their snow nudists have no right corrupting my snow kid's minds by subverting common decency laws. I just want to raise my snow kids in a proper way without having to answer questions about snow breasts.
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#10 pete_merlin
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Of course not, its made of snow lol if it was a sculpted piece of ice then that would be different

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#11 Engrish_Major
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That's idiotic, that think looks genuinely like a piece of art. What do these people say about sculptures in museums?Duckman5
I remember reading in a local paper about a congressman from Texas visiting DC and complaining about the nude statues in the city.
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#12 Xorital
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while were at it why dont we just cover our noses since it looks so much like a penis *cough*

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#13 spazzx625
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while were at it why dont we just cover our noses since it looks so much like a penis *cough*

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Whoa, speak for yourself...My nose looks like a nose.
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[QUOTE="Xorital"]

while were at it why dont we just cover our noses since it looks so much like a penis *cough*

spazzx625

Whoa, speak for yourself...My nose looks like a nose.

Are you sure? It has SKIN

Edit:Yeah i'm just screwing around at this point

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I think they are. Like a statue is. Idk.

I mean there are loads of ancient statues of half naked women in museums and I dont think parents cover their children's eyes when they visit them.

spazzx625

whats the big deal? you can see stuff like that in museums. and I don't think anyone has complain about them yet

TheShadowLord07

Yes, but you go to a museum to see art, you may not want it forced on you? I think it's silly to cover up a snowwoman, but I'm just not sure about the museum thing

You are right about the museum but there are status to be found in public too, and I dont think a city that wants to have a statue in its town square will be as puritanistic about it as the reaction towards the snow-woman was.

In fact in my history books (as early as elementary school) I remember there was a picture of that painting with Liberty personified as a woman with her chest revealed fighting or something like that). In the end, its ok when something is seen as art. But we define art but how do we define it?

And in the end even if we can define it strictly, does it really make a diffence in regards to the influence a naked figure might have on a child, whether it is artsy or not?

...I mean when it comes to plain harmless nudity and not porn or something. :P

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kids find out anyway. I knew about sex at a very young age..kids arent as innocent as parents think

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Teenaged"] [QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

whats the big deal? you can see stuff like that in museums. and I don't think anyone has complain about them yet

Teenaged

Yes, but you go to a museum to see art, you may not want it forced on you? I think it's silly to cover up a snowwoman, but I'm just not sure about the museum thing

You are right about the museum but there are status to be found in public too, and I dont think a city that wants to have a statue in its town square will be as puritanistic about it as the reaction towards the snow-woman was.

In fact in my history books (as early as elementary school) I remember there was a picture of that painting with Liberty personified as a woman with her chest revealed fighting or something like that). In the end, its ok when something is seen as art. But we define art but how do we define it?

And in the end even if we can define it strictly, does it really make a diffence in regards to the influence a naked figure might have on a child, whether it is artsy or not?

...I mean when it comes to plain harmless nudity and not porn or something. :P

Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think anyone was getting their jollies from a bare breasted SNOW sculpture...But who knows. I think our (the US) has a weird grasp of what is considered pornographic or offensive.
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#18 spazzx625
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kids find out anyway. I knew about sex at a very young age..kids arent as innocent as parents think

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That reminds me of a story... My nephew is 6 1/2 and he came up to me around Christmas time and was like "uncle Andy, I know what the B-word is" and I was kinda shocked and asked what it was... And he was came closer and whispered "butt". I couldn't help but laugh and tell him he was correct...
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#19 Xorital
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[QUOTE="Xorital"]

kids find out anyway. I knew about sex at a very young age..kids arent as innocent as parents think

spazzx625

That reminds me of a story... My nephew is 6 1/2 and he came up to me around Christmas time and was like "uncle Andy, I know what the B-word is" and I was kinda shocked and asked what it was... And he was came closer and whispered "butt". I couldn't help but laugh and tell him he was correct...

Haha...that's actualy clever!

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#20 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Xorital"]

kids find out anyway. I knew about sex at a very young age..kids arent as innocent as parents think

spazzx625

That reminds me of a story... My nephew is 6 1/2 and he came up to me around Christmas time and was like "uncle Andy, I know what the B-word is" and I was kinda shocked and asked what it was... And he was came closer and whispered "butt". I couldn't help but laugh and tell him he was correct...

AHAHAHAHAHA!

I cant believe this. :P

I am sure he thought that that word is ultra-vulgar.

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#21 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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umm, seriously?
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#22 Engrish_Major
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umm, seriously?Jandurin
To be fair, I'm sure the nipples were ultra-realistic.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]umm, seriously?Engrish_Major
To be fair, I'm sure the nipples were ultra-realistic.

We should start enforcing fat men to cover up their chests at the beach.. Their nipples and overall pecks are larger then some females out there.

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#24 Oleg_Huzwog
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That was not the picture I was hoping for.

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#25 spazzx625
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That was not the picture I was hoping for.

Oleg_Huzwog
Were you hoping for pre-bikini photos?
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#26 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

That was not the picture I was hoping for.

spazzx625

Were you hoping for pre-bikini photos?

I want to see snoobs.

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#27 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

That was not the picture I was hoping for.

Oleg_Huzwog

Were you hoping for pre-bikini photos?

I want to see snoobs.

I wish I had a great retort to that...But I wanna see some too. (haha..."snoobs")
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

That was not the picture I was hoping for.

Were you hoping for pre-bikini photos?

I want to see snoobs.

not snipples?
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What do you think? Are snowwomen a valid source of nudity?spazzx625
Hell, you know what we think. Question is, what the hell was the person calling the cops on the artist thinking. also inb4 only in america
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#30 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="spazzx625"] Were you hoping for pre-bikini photos?Jandurin

I want to see snoobs.

not snipples?

Snipples come with snoobs. That's where snabies get their snilk.

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]What do you think? Are snowwomen a valid source of nudity?BiancaDK
Hell, you know what we think. Question is, what the hell was the person calling the cops on the artist thinking. also inb4 only in america

Same here...... :)

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#32 II_Seraphim_II
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People are always looking for excuses to complain about something. I guess it makes them feel more important or something?
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#33 muscleserge
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Only in America. What else can anyone say. Since when has nudity become so offensive. I have seen adverts on TV, and on billboard of cancers due to smoking that would disgust anyone, yet those are fine, but having a recreation of a sculpture isn't. Well I guess "Boobs and vagina will get you to hell" still flies around those parts.
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Is there something in the water in New Jersey? First I hear about an NJ woman who wants to be the fattest in the world, then someone telling blacks to leave the store in Wal-Mart and now this.

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#35 Xorital
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new jersey is the cause of aids

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#36 Maniacc1
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My God. What is wrong with New Jersey and Walmart this week :P
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#37 coolbeans90
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Yeah, I read that article a several weeks ago. So depressing. :( It's given me an idea for the next major snowstorm though. Lots of snoobies. :)

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The snow is far too sexy.
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I wonder if that same person who called the police gets offended when he sees naked mannequins? Gotta be some old fart who called the police...

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I wonder if that same person who called the police gets offended when he sees naked mannequins? Gotta be some old fart who called the police...

feryl06

I'm picturing a middle-aged soccer mom who's active in PTA.

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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="feryl06"]

I wonder if that same person who called the police gets offended when he sees naked mannequins? Gotta be some old fart who called the police...

I'm picturing a middle-aged soccer mom who's active in PTA.

maybe she was jealous of the perky snoobs
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did they not use the lumps of coal for buttons? lol

if I was the guy who made it, I would just tear the snowman down if somebody told me to put clothes on it....... thats just plain stupid

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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="feryl06"]

I wonder if that same person who called the police gets offended when he sees naked mannequins? Gotta be some old fart who called the police...

Jandurin

I'm picturing a middle-aged soccer mom who's active in PTA.

maybe she was jealous of the perky snoobs

Her snoobs melted after snild #3.

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#44 juden41
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Lovely snowperson! It's nude in the same way that an old sculpture depicts nudity, only this is made of snow and not marble.
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whats the big deal? you can see stuff like that in museums. and I don't think anyone has complain about them yet

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Wrong; for those too lazy to click, in a fit of spectacular irony, in 2002 then-US Attorney General John Ashcroft ordered the status of Justice in the Justice Department to be covered up because she had bewbies.
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#46 General_X
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Breaking news: Women have breasts I really wish us Americans could drop our puritan views of the human body as something that is offensive.
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#47 MgamerBD
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*facepalm* I'm so tired of people whining its sad....
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#48 juden41
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Breaking news: Women have breasts:
I really wish us Americans could drop our puritan views of the human body as something that is offensive.General_X

I think it's somewhatbecause people feel "threatened" by someone else's beauty, like theirs isn't good enough, so they attack it. At least that's what I've gathered from that view.

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#49 deactivated-59d151f079814
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.. The guy should have next a snowman brutally killing another snow man. See if he gets the same kind of response.
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#50 UserBane
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Must be an old story its currently 70 F here in New Jersey.