nudity

[QUOTE="BoXzOrZ"]

i don't understand how nudity is innapropriate if it isn't sexual

i just can't percieve it as innapropriate

it doesn't have any negative effects

MrGeezer

Imagine you're in the park with your 11 year old daughter. You turn your back for a minute, and then a man in a trenchcoat walks over and sits next to your daughter. He opens up his trenchcoat and exposes himself to her.

Question: Upon turning back around and seeing that some dude is exposing himself to your 13 year old daughter, what do you do? Do you walk over and calmly ask if he exposed himself for conversational rather than sexual purposes? Or do you simply beat the **** out of him on general principle?

how does the daughter go from 11 to 13??? :|

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="BoXzOrZ"]

i don't understand how nudity is innapropriate if it isn't sexual

i just can't percieve it as innapropriate

it doesn't have any negative effects

firebreathing

Imagine you're in the park with your 11 year old daughter. You turn your back for a minute, and then a man in a trenchcoat walks over and sits next to your daughter. He opens up his trenchcoat and exposes himself to her.

Question: Upon turning back around and seeing that some dude is exposing himself to your 13 year old daughter, what do you do? Do you walk over and calmly ask if he exposed himself for conversational rather than sexual purposes? Or do you simply beat the **** out of him on general principle?

how does the daughter go from 11 to 13??? :|

With the magic of bad writing.

woo enough for that long quate (hard to read)

btw, if you've been somewhere in S-E Asia, you'll know why. I'm living there, and nudity is totally banned even for 18+ so I'm soooo piti :lol:

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="muthsera666"]

You created the strawman. Not me. You redirect what I said and placed it in a context befitting your point of view. You earlier stated: if some man were to walk up to your 11 year old daughter TONIGHT and whip out his genitalia. I understood this to mean a proximal relationship. Meaning within arms reach. With someone doing somthing with their body, to me, that is pretty much in one's face. I am a very private individual with much respect for personal space, so if anyone were to invade that space regardless of whether they were flopping around, I would be upset.

Again, I'm not surprised this is the way you turned the argument. But I expected more from you. I thought previously that you were an individual that did not have to rely on taking something out of context to prove a point. But I guess we can all be wrong.

MrGeezer

So if your problem is just with personal space, what does that have to do with genitalia?

You find it offensive when people get within arm's reach of you? Don't you think that's a little bit abnormal? If you're sitting on a park bench, you're telling me that you take up the whole bench and won't let anyone sit down next to you?

A park bench is bigger than three feet... Generally, if someone sits down beside me, I stand up and walk away.

Besides, you were the one who took the issue of nudity from the discussed societal rammifications to my personal level. If you don't like the answers I gave, then it is your own fault for altering the path of discussion.

I didn't alter the discussion at all. People were giving their PERSONAL opinions as to whether there was anything wrong with public nudity, so I presented a hypothetical situation involving public nudity, and asked how you guys felt about that PERSONALLY.

Anyway dude, if you're that uncomfortable with having people being within 3 feet of you, that's really your own problem.

You altered the context from general to personal which is different fromasking a personal opinion.

Actually, I don't consider it a problem at all. I don't like people and I don't like to be close to people. And this wouldn't have arisen in the conversation had you not taken the context formgeneral to personal.

woo enough for that long quate (hard to read)

btw, if you've been somewhere in S-E Asia, you'll know why. I'm living there, and nudity is totally banned even for 18+ so I'm soooo piti :lol:

sephiroth_y

haha. totally right. i was in SE Asia when we moved to NZ. where are you in SE asia?

[QUOTE="sephiroth_y"]

woo enough for that long quate (hard to read)

btw, if you've been somewhere in S-E Asia, you'll know why. I'm living there, and nudity is totally banned even for 18+ so I'm soooo piti :lol:

donx48

haha. totally right. i was in SE Asia when we moved to NZ. where are you in SE asia?

hmm... an unwelcomed country :( I want to move away ~~~!!!

[QUOTE="donx48"][QUOTE="sephiroth_y"]

woo enough for that long quate (hard to read)

btw, if you've been somewhere in S-E Asia, you'll know why. I'm living there, and nudity is totally banned even for 18+ so I'm soooo piti :lol:

sephiroth_y

haha. totally right. i was in SE Asia when we moved to NZ. where are you in SE asia?

hmm... an unwelcomed country :( I want to move away ~~~!!!

Specifically, where are you? (which country exactly...)

I scream when every im about to take a bathhikari33

omfg sig'd

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="muthsera666"]

You created the strawman. Not me. You redirect what I said and placed it in a context befitting your point of view. You earlier stated: if some man were to walk up to your 11 year old daughter TONIGHT and whip out his genitalia. I understood this to mean a proximal relationship. Meaning within arms reach. With someone doing somthing with their body, to me, that is pretty much in one's face. I am a very private individual with much respect for personal space, so if anyone were to invade that space regardless of whether they were flopping around, I would be upset.

Again, I'm not surprised this is the way you turned the argument. But I expected more from you. I thought previously that you were an individual that did not have to rely on taking something out of context to prove a point. But I guess we can all be wrong.

muthsera666

So if your problem is just with personal space, what does that have to do with genitalia?

You find it offensive when people get within arm's reach of you? Don't you think that's a little bit abnormal? If you're sitting on a park bench, you're telling me that you take up the whole bench and won't let anyone sit down next to you?

A park bench is bigger than three feet... Generally, if someone sits down beside me, I stand up and walk away.

Besides, you were the one who took the issue of nudity from the discussed societal rammifications to my personal level. If you don't like the answers I gave, then it is your own fault for altering the path of discussion.

I didn't alter the discussion at all. People were giving their PERSONAL opinions as to whether there was anything wrong with public nudity, so I presented a hypothetical situation involving public nudity, and asked how you guys felt about that PERSONALLY.

Anyway dude, if you're that uncomfortable with having people being within 3 feet of you, that's really your own problem.

You altered the context from general to personal which is different fromasking a personal opinion.

Bull****. You need to go back and read the TC's first post. You know, the post that started this whole thread?

He gave his PERSONAL opinions on nudity, and provided NO specific context restricting what kind of nudity he was talking about.

[QUOTE="sephiroth_y"][QUOTE="donx48"][QUOTE="sephiroth_y"]

woo enough for that long quate (hard to read)

btw, if you've been somewhere in S-E Asia, you'll know why. I'm living there, and nudity is totally banned even for 18+ so I'm soooo piti :lol:

donx48

haha. totally right. i was in SE Asia when we moved to NZ. where are you in SE asia?

hmm... an unwelcomed country :( I want to move away ~~~!!!

Specifically, where are you? (which country exactly...)

really want to know? malay.... and you know that islam all over here, that's why no nudity.well but Ihave to clarify that I'm not malay. so? gonna help me out!? :lol:

[QUOTE="BoXzOrZ"]

i don't understand how nudity is innapropriate if it isn't sexual

i just can't percieve it as innapropriate

it doesn't have any negative effects

MrGeezer

Imagine you're in the park with your 11 year old daughter. You turn your back for a minute, and then a man in a trenchcoat walks over and sits next to your daughter. He opens up his trenchcoat and exposes himself to her.

Question: Upon turning back around and seeing that some dude is exposing himself to your 13 year old daughter, what do you do? Do you walk over and calmly ask if he exposed himself for conversational rather than sexual purposes? Or do you simply beat the **** out of him on general principle?

[QUOTE="donx48"][QUOTE="sephiroth_y"][QUOTE="donx48"][QUOTE="sephiroth_y"]

woo enough for that long quate (hard to read)

btw, if you've been somewhere in S-E Asia, you'll know why. I'm living there, and nudity is totally banned even for 18+ so I'm soooo piti :lol:

sephiroth_y

haha. totally right. i was in SE Asia when we moved to NZ. where are you in SE asia?

hmm... an unwelcomed country :( I want to move away ~~~!!!

Specifically, where are you? (which country exactly...)

really want to know? malay.... and you know that islam all over here, that's why no nudity.well but Ihave to clarify that I'm not malay. so? gonna help me out!? :lol:

Umm, no. Just asking. I thought you were from the Philippines.

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="muthsera666"]

You created the strawman. Not me. You redirect what I said and placed it in a context befitting your point of view. You earlier stated: if some man were to walk up to your 11 year old daughter TONIGHT and whip out his genitalia. I understood this to mean a proximal relationship. Meaning within arms reach. With someone doing somthing with their body, to me, that is pretty much in one's face. I am a very private individual with much respect for personal space, so if anyone were to invade that space regardless of whether they were flopping around, I would be upset.

Again, I'm not surprised this is the way you turned the argument. But I expected more from you. I thought previously that you were an individual that did not have to rely on taking something out of context to prove a point. But I guess we can all be wrong.

MrGeezer

So if your problem is just with personal space, what does that have to do with genitalia?

You find it offensive when people get within arm's reach of you? Don't you think that's a little bit abnormal? If you're sitting on a park bench, you're telling me that you take up the whole bench and won't let anyone sit down next to you?

A park bench is bigger than three feet... Generally, if someone sits down beside me, I stand up and walk away.

Besides, you were the one who took the issue of nudity from the discussed societal rammifications to my personal level. If you don't like the answers I gave, then it is your own fault for altering the path of discussion.

I didn't alter the discussion at all. People were giving their PERSONAL opinions as to whether there was anything wrong with public nudity, so I presented a hypothetical situation involving public nudity, and asked how you guys felt about that PERSONALLY.

Anyway dude, if you're that uncomfortable with having people being within 3 feet of you, that's really your own problem.

You altered the context from general to personal which is different fromasking a personal opinion.

Bull****. You need to go back and read the TC's first post. You know, the post that started this whole thread?

He gave his PERSONAL opinions on nudity, and provided NO specific context restricting what kind of nudity he was talking about.

Sigh. You won't be satisfied with anything I say will you? Alright, then. Maybe I was wrong. Honestly I don't really care anymore. It's midnight, I got three hours of sleep last night; I'm going to bed.

[QUOTE="sephiroth_y"][QUOTE="donx48"][QUOTE="sephiroth_y"][QUOTE="donx48"][QUOTE="sephiroth_y"]

woo enough for that long quate (hard to read)

btw, if you've been somewhere in S-E Asia, you'll know why. I'm living there, and nudity is totally banned even for 18+ so I'm soooo piti :lol:

donx48

haha. totally right. i was in SE Asia when we moved to NZ. where are you in SE asia?

hmm... an unwelcomed country :( I want to move away ~~~!!!

Specifically, where are you? (which country exactly...)

really want to know? malay.... and you know that islam all over here, that's why no nudity.well but Ihave to clarify that I'm not malay. so? gonna help me out!? :lol:

Umm, no. Just asking. I thought you were from the Philippines.

Philippines is better, at least our safety

Imagine you're in the park with your 11 year old daughter. You turn your back for a minute, and then a man in a trenchcoat walks over and sits next to your daughter. He opens up his trenchcoat and exposes himself to her.

MrGeezer

I would use the incident as an opportunity to explain the finer details of the male anatomy to my daughter and politely thank the gentleman for making his genitalia available for didactic purposes.

:P

Seems to me that in the United States people are way too uptight about nudity in just about every situation. Some examples...

You have your puritanical decency police who think the world has gone to hell in an hand-basket every time they see someone with a skirt above their knees, and are the first to push for legislature upholding one generation's standard of "decency". Lame.

Worse yet might be your power tripping soccer moms (and dads) who take the notion of protecting their children from "indecency" to extreme degrees by trying to prevent nudity in artwork and naughty words in novels from coming within 10,000 miles of the nearest elementary, middle, or high school Ug.

But then you also have the uptight fols who are so brainwashed that they can't separate one idea from another and freak out when they see naked people they find unattractive (note user above in reference to fat people). If you honestly find yourself so repulsed by a naked fat man (for example) that you can't share the same beach or locker-room with the fella then YOU are the one who has the problem, not him. Grow up, expand your mind, get over yourself. These people might be the worst of them all.

Schwah

Argh! I was gonna write that! :cry:;)

i feel comfortable being naked at my gf's house....but not at mine...nudity is just nudity....it doesnt have to be sexualSerial-No_3404

my first question would be how he aged my daughter two years just by showing her his penisdooly420

Life Experience... gains 2 levels. :|

I don't think it's appropiate for people to just walk around naked wherever they go. Also, if you allowed people to be naked all the time, who would be able to prevent someone from displaying sexual deformities or something? Honestly, if nudity has a reasonable purpose or is in art, I really don't have a problem with it. I don't think people should be able to walk around naked in public though.clarke0

Yup all back to the mold of cultural history.

Artistic nudity is fine, but most of it isn't.

I can put it into perspective with a scenario of a country where everyone must cover their faces and taking them off would be innapropriate flashing although genitalia is appropriate like the face is appropriate in our society.

It isn't human instinct for it to be percieved as innapropriate

Also I believe the face can be percieved as innapropriate in a sexual way, the face i belive is a sexual in its entirty as the breasts. A face is as much a means of attraction as genitalia

It is only our perspective that has been built into us over time,

There really isn't anything innapropriate about the human body it's like a pointless courtesy and the perspective put upon nudity

also, in other countries suchas Germany the body is not percieved as innapropriate

They would put a giant photo of a naked woman on the front page of a newspaper and it isn't censored because it isn't someting that is necessary to censor at all

that's their perspective

objectifies women etc.

whatever lame excuse mothers come up with.

blooddemon666

Well I'm nude...and a dude.Nude_Dude

Your both.

At the same time.

Although I agree that a lack of clothing does not equate to eroticism, it still offends our norms of decency. Elraptor

Precisely, showing your twig and cherries.. I cannot say it screams "hygiene".

also, in other countries suchas Germany the body is not percieved as innapropriate

They would put a giant photo of a naked woman on the front page of a newspaper and it isn't censored because it isn't someting that is necessary to censor at all

that's their perspective

BoXzOrZ

One of my workmates told us that when he was in Germany, while walking through a park, a guy came riding along on a bike in the nude, peddling along, genitals moving this way & that, & gives a cheery wave & a "hello" as he rides on by..........hilarious :P

But really, I think nudity laws for the most part are stupid.....I mean, saying that there's something wrong with nudity is the same as saying that there's something wrong with the human body......but whatever, I guess I'll just continue to sit here in the nude in front of the computer.

[QUOTE="Schwah"]

Seems to me that in the United States people are way too uptight about nudity in just about every situation. Some examples...

You have your puritanical decency police who think the world has gone to hell in an hand-basket every time they see someone with a skirt above their knees, and are the first to push for legislature upholding one generation's standard of "decency". Lame.

Worse yet might be your power tripping soccer moms (and dads) who take the notion of protecting their children from "indecency" to extreme degrees by trying to prevent nudity in artwork and naughty words in novels from coming within 10,000 miles of the nearest elementary, middle, or high school Ug.

But then you also have the uptight fols who are so brainwashed that they can't separate one idea from another and freak out when they see naked people they find unattractive (note user above in reference to fat people). If you honestly find yourself so repulsed by a naked fat man (for example) that you can't share the same beach or locker-room with the fella then YOU are the one who has the problem, not him. Grow up, expand your mind, get over yourself. These people might be the worst of them all.

blooddemon666

Man, you gotta hate people who generalize. I truely believe in god, but that doesn't mean I am all hard core, and listen to EVERY rule. Not every christian is like that.

Nudity is fun. :D

Best topic title ever, BTW.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Imagine you're in the park with your 11 year old daughter. You turn your back for a minute, and then a man in a trenchcoat walks over and sits next to your daughter. He opens up his trenchcoat and exposes himself to her.

Stesilaus

I would use the incident as an opportunity to explain the finer details of the male anatomy to my daughter and politely thank the gentleman for making his genitalia available for didactic purposes.

:P

Awesome reply.

I don't understand why nudity is so bad for everyone. I mean everybody has one set of genitalia, and it should not be a mystery as to what the other looks like.

I think there's nothing wrong with it. But nudity has become much more sexualized recently. Before it was just a case of privacy. nowadays it a question of how many people you have sex with.

But i understand a lot of people when they say US seems to be a little to much pubic. Where i live, it's nothing that extravagant. It's like, you don't see many people nude (mainly because its been f****ng freezing outside), but when you see it's not a big deal. Unless the person in question is attractive. Then everyone thanks for it! :P

But if you mean sexually inducing clothing, then i don't think it's very correct. It will make people more sexually driven, which i don't like.

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

I would use the incident as an opportunity to explain the finer details of the male anatomy to my daughter and politely thank the gentleman for making his genitalia available for didactic purposes.

:P

whet40

Awesome reply.I

don't understand why nudity is so bad for everyone. I mean everybody has one set of genitalia, and it should not be a mystery as to what the other looks like.

What if they are hermaphrodite? They may have two sets! :o

it doesn't have to be sexual to be scarringJackboot343

Then I guess that makes David a pedophile, of sorts.

[QUOTE="whet40"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

I would use the incident as an opportunity to explain the finer details of the male anatomy to my daughter and politely thank the gentleman for making his genitalia available for didactic purposes.

:P

joao_22990

Awesome reply.I

don't understand why nudity is so bad for everyone. I mean everybody has one set of genitalia, and it should not be a mystery as to what the other looks like.

What if they are hermaphrodite? They may have two sets! :o

Then it is surely not a mystery for them, and it should be even less of a problem for them.

Fellow Europeans. Do you guys strongly repulse when you see someone naked on the beach? Do you have problems showering naked with others in the swimming halls? No? Good. That is the european spirit.TheTerribleFish

Indeed! 8)