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"It's smash and grab, no different than a guy walking down Fifth Avenue and smashing the window at Tiffany's and reaching in and grabbing what's in the window." -- U.S. VP Joe Biden - lol.

http://www.dailytech.com/Obama+Administration+Announces+Massive+Piracy+Crackdown/article18815.htm">http://www.dailytech.com/Obama+Administration+Announces+Massive+Piracy+Crackdown/article18815.htm

"The press release states, "As we shine the spotlight on foreign governments that have rogue actors doing illicit business within their borders, it's the government's responsibility to respond."

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#2 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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That is an odd way of putting it...and it doesn't make much sense :?...

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That is an odd way of putting it...and it doesn't make much sense :?...

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#5 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

That is an odd way of putting it...and it doesn't make much sense :?...

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I want to become an editor that gets paid not to work :cry:!!
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I give up >.> GS is broken.

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I give up >.> GS is broken.

clyde46
OH you were talking about the GS editor.. *takes off space helmet* :P..
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#8 Serraph105
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they can crackdown all they like, but its not going to stop people. pure and simple the government will do one thing and pirates who have nothing better to do will come out with some free software to counter it.

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this thread seems to be inviting people to get moderations...

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#10 hamstergeddon
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Oh noes :( (They came for the pirates, but I didn't say anything because I was not a pirate) :o In all seriousness, what the hell, Obama. Firing McChrystal then cracking down on pirates? That's two strikes in my book....
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this thread seems to be inviting people to get moderations...

harrisi17
Not really, piracy is wrong but this way of fighting it is also wrong.
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Welcome to glitchspot! Allow me to assist you.

lol fail

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#13 TheShadowLord07
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eh tbh honest I don't like cracking down on piracy on oversea's.

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#14 clyde46
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eh tbh honest I don't like cracking down on piracy on oversea's.

TheShadowLord07
This is what really worries me.
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Yeah GS doesn't like links with too many "+" in them linking stuff together. Just a few is OK but beyond that it kind of freaks out and won't let you use it.

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Glad I live in Canada...But then again there always seems to be a trickling effect. Either way, they're not gonna stop 95 percent of internet users from pirating. It's the world we live in and who cares if those multi-billion dollar corporations don't get their full money. This is capitalism, let the economy run itself and if people pirate and bootleg, it's just a product of people taking matters (smartly) into their own hands.
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This is a good thing in my opinion. I hope they are able to start prosecuting/fining pirates in mass quantities.

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#18 starfox15
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Going after the drug lords was a bad idea.

This is just asinine. I love you Obama, but good luck man.

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WTF is that!

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[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"]

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lol fail

Tiny URL -their slogan is "where big things fit in tiny packages" That is ****ing awesome
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#21 clyde46
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This is a good thing in my opinion. I hope they are able to start prosecuting/fining pirates in mass quantities.

Renevent42
Its very hard to find people when pirate. Since IPs change all the time. You may have an IP address that a heavy pirater used two weeks ago.
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Those are fighting words there Barack.

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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

eh tbh honest I don't like cracking down on piracy on oversea's.

clyde46

This is what really worries me.

care to explain?

half of my family is from a 3rd world country and caN't afford the price the price of the average dvd like it is in the US.

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the concept of piracy when it comes to media, and similar formats.. is absolutely hilarious to me.
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What kind of piracy are they talking about?
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#26 bruinfan617
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This is good. It's not like anybody will be arrested, just handed a large fine.

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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

This is a good thing in my opinion. I hope they are able to start prosecuting/fining pirates in mass quantities.

clyde46
Its very hard to find people when pirate. Since IPs change all the time. You may have an IP address that a heavy pirater used two weeks ago.

I'm guessing these are the types of things they want to change. I've read in previous articles proposals that would actually make it much easier for them to determine where users are logging in from. As our economies move more and more to digital, these types of things are bound to happen.
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the concept of piracy when it comes to media, and similar formats.. is absolutely hilarious to me.EMOEVOLUTION
well they can't make a speech about what it really is or they wouldn't get the same kind of support.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

eh tbh honest I don't like cracking down on piracy on oversea's.

TheShadowLord07

This is what really worries me.

care to explain?

half of my family is from a 3rd world country and ca't afford the price the price of the average dvd in the US.

I've read that Obama wants to put pressure on other nations to deal with pirates. America put huges amounts of pressure on Sweden to try the admins of the Pirate Bay.
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

This is a good thing in my opinion. I hope they are able to start prosecuting/fining pirates in mass quantities.

clyde46
Its very hard to find people when pirate. Since IPs change all the time. You may have an IP address that a heavy pirater used two weeks ago.

It's not hard to find people when they pirate dude. The RIAA, MPAA, and various corporations have had no problem tracking down pirates. And obviously the government doesn't have much trouble tracking your ass down if it knows you downloaded child pornography. While IP addresses are dynamic, your ISP does keep track of who had which IP address at what time. Hence why corporations and governments tracking down IPs have to go to the ISP. They say "you're legally bound to comply with our request (due to a warrant or court order) for the user who had this IP address on this date". The ISP then checks its logs, comes back, and says "Ok, the person with that IP address was John Q. Public. Here's his contact information".
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This is idiotic. It says it will be a criminal offense to bypass DRM which means that even if you own a legal copy you can't bypass it. It's quite obvious that if a law is so frequently broken then the law needs to be re-evaluated as it clearly dosn't have public support.
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WTF is that!

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It does that to me too. The CSS IDs seem to be pulled through as well as the HTML when you copy and paste.
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#32 Mystic-G
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As long as the internet exists as a information sharing platform there will always be piracy.

That is all.

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#33 weezyfb
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well i cant say im against it
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#34 Gallion-Beast
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Yup, you heard it from the American government first folks. Piracy breaks windows. You don't want to break windows do you?
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] I've read that Obama wants to put pressure on other nations to deal with pirates. America put huges amounts of pressure on Sweden to try the admins of the Pirate Bay.

That shouldn't be allowed. A nation shouldn't be able to have power over the internet like that, it's against the whole idea of the internet.
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I just found this.

June 23 (Bloomberg) -- The Obama administration will try to shut down Internet trafficking in pirated movies and music, the government's first anti-piracy chief told Congress.

"We will go after the foreign-based websites and Web services that infringe our intellectual property rights," said Victoria Espinel, the U.S. intellectual property enforcement officer, in testimony today to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Espinel told Senator Patrick Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who leads the committee, she would cooperate as he develops legislation that he didn't detail to close illicit websites. She delivered a report yesterday proposing a 120-day review of government enforcement of laws protecting intellectual property and the need for new rules.

Motion picture piracy costs the U.S. economy more than $20 billion annually, Barry Meyer, chief executive officer of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said in written testimony. There were more than 1.7 million illicit downloads of the movie "Sherlock Holmes" in the first 30 days after its December release, Meyer wrote.

"Rampant theft of intellectual property strikes at the heart of our nation's economy," Meyer said.

Senator Thomas Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican, said China isn't cooperating in quelling trade in counterfeit goods.

"They are stealing our intellectual property," Coburn said. "They are stealing our future."

Espinel, whose post was created by a 2008 law, said China is "an issue of great concern."

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LINK

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-23/obama-administration-to-pursue-web-trafficking-in-pirated-films.html

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Motion picture piracy costs the U.S. economy more than $20 billion annuallyclyde46
Right because anyone willing to watch a movie for free would obviously pay full price for the DVD otherwise.
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I just found this.

June 23 (Bloomberg) -- The Obama administration will try to shut down Internet trafficking in pirated movies and music, the government's first anti-piracy chief told Congress.

"We will go after the foreign-based websites and Web services that infringe our intellectual property rights," said Victoria Espinel, the U.S. intellectual property enforcement officer, in testimony today to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Espinel told Senator Patrick Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who leads the committee, she would cooperate as he develops legislation that he didn't detail to close illicit websites. She delivered a report yesterday proposing a 120-day review of government enforcement of laws protecting intellectual property and the need for new rules.

Motion picture piracy costs the U.S. economy more than $20 billion annually, Barry Meyer, chief executive officer of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said in written testimony. There were more than 1.7 million illicit downloads of the movie "Sherlock Holmes" in the first 30 days after its December release, Meyer wrote.

"Rampant theft of intellectual property strikes at the heart of our nation's economy," Meyer said.

Senator Thomas Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican, said China isn't cooperating in quelling trade in counterfeit goods.

"They are stealing our intellectual property," Coburn said. "They are stealing our future."

Espinel, whose post was created by a 2008 law, said China is "an issue of great concern."

clyde46

I thought the US needs china the most? going against them that would be kinda funny. but all in all i don't support this (the over seas part)

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I just found this.

June 23 (Bloomberg) -- The Obama administration will try to shut down Internet trafficking in pirated movies and music, the government's first anti-piracy chief told Congress.

"We will go after the foreign-based websites and Web services that infringe our intellectual property rights," said Victoria Espinel, the U.S. intellectual property enforcement officer, in testimony today to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Espinel told Senator Patrick Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who leads the committee, she would cooperate as he develops legislation that he didn't detail to close illicit websites. She delivered a report yesterday proposing a 120-day review of government enforcement of laws protecting intellectual property and the need for new rules.

Motion picture piracy costs the U.S. economy more than $20 billion annually, Barry Meyer, chief executive officer of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said in written testimony. There were more than 1.7 million illicit downloads of the movie "Sherlock Holmes" in the first 30 days after its December release, Meyer wrote.

"Rampant theft of intellectual property strikes at the heart of our nation's economy," Meyer said.

Senator Thomas Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican, said China isn't cooperating in quelling trade in counterfeit goods.

"They are stealing our intellectual property," Coburn said. "They are stealing our future."

Espinel, whose post was created by a 2008 law, said China is "an issue of great concern."

clyde46
It is so aggravating that we still have politicians spouting that crap when an official government investigation into piracy found that not only are the entertainment industry's claims of damages from piracy "baseless" and "greatly exaggerated" but that the US economy actually probably benefits from piracy.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Motion picture piracy costs the U.S. economy more than $20 billion annuallyGallion-Beast
Right because anyone willing to watch a movie for free would obviously pay full price for the DVD otherwise.

This. Just like PC game piracy, one pirated copy does not equate to one copy sold. I recall a study (don't have source link) for PC game piracy that it was actually 1 out of every 100.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

I just found this.

June 23 (Bloomberg) -- The Obama administration will try to shut down Internet trafficking in pirated movies and music, the government's first anti-piracy chief told Congress.

"We will go after the foreign-based websites and Web services that infringe our intellectual property rights," said Victoria Espinel, the U.S. intellectual property enforcement officer, in testimony today to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Espinel told Senator Patrick Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who leads the committee, she would cooperate as he develops legislation that he didn't detail to close illicit websites. She delivered a report yesterday proposing a 120-day review of government enforcement of laws protecting intellectual property and the need for new rules.

Motion picture piracy costs the U.S. economy more than $20 billion annually, Barry Meyer, chief executive officer of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said in written testimony. There were more than 1.7 million illicit downloads of the movie "Sherlock Holmes" in the first 30 days after its December release, Meyer wrote.

"Rampant theft of intellectual property strikes at the heart of our nation's economy," Meyer said.

Senator Thomas Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican, said China isn't cooperating in quelling trade in counterfeit goods.

"They are stealing our intellectual property," Coburn said. "They are stealing our future."

Espinel, whose post was created by a 2008 law, said China is "an issue of great concern."

gameguy6700
It is so aggravating that we still have politicians spouting that crap when an official government investigation into piracy found that not only are the entertainment industry's claims of damages from piracy "baseless" and "greatly exaggerated" but that the US economy actually probably benefits from piracy.

Once again, the fact they are going after countries oversea's worries me greatly.
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I appreciate the effort, but you can't stop the internet.
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I really wish people would stop using the dishonest "it's exactly like going to a store and shoplifting" analogy... if you're going to combat piracy, fine, but don't do it based on false premises.

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This is a good thing in my opinion. I hope they are able to start prosecuting/fining pirates in mass quantities.

Renevent42
You know that would completely cripple the economy right? There's been calculations on this before there simply isn't enough money in existence to pay for all the piracy at full price.
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#46 Mystic-G
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I really wish people would stop using the dishonest "it's exactly like going to a store and shoplifting" analogy... if you're going to combat piracy, fine, but don't do it based on false premises.

GabuEx
I'm in agreement with you. Because again, it pushes the idea that every copy pirated is a potential copy sold which is clearly false.
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#47 markop2003
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Espinel, whose post was created by a 2008 law, said China is "an issue of great concern."

That's a load of BS, a download does not equal a lost sale, the actual figure is closer to $1-2billion at most.
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Umm which ones, the Somalians or the Swedish?
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I really wish people would stop using the dishonest "it's exactly like going to a store and shoplifting" analogy... if you're going to combat piracy, fine, but don't do it based on false premises.

Mystic-G
I'm in agreement with you. Because again, it pushes the idea that every copy pirated is a potential copy sold which is clearly false.

Not only that it's a potential copy sold, but also the loss of a possession as well. And apparently now damaged property.
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

This is a good thing in my opinion. I hope they are able to start prosecuting/fining pirates in mass quantities.

markop2003
You know that would completely cripple the economy right? There's been calculations on this before there simply isn't enough money in existence to pay for all the piracy at full price.

Please do show. And not sure what the total price of all the pirated goods has to do with anything. Anyways, I hope they are successful in bringing in this change.