President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.
Not cool Obama :|
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President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.
Not cool Obama :|
If it's just for banks and financial things it could be fine.
But you know... the slippery slope and all that. :P
If the U.S. government knew the majority of my internet history, they would give me the ID number 69.
I lol'dIf the U.S. government knew the majority of my internet history, they would give me the ID number 69.
entropyecho
If the U.S. government knew the majority of my internet history, they would give me the ID number 69.entropyechoYou think too highly of yourself, a large number of people probably has similar browsing history to your's.
That part sounds pretty cool, actually."We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."
That part doesn't sound so cool. I would like to hear more about this before I form an opinion, though.Details about the "trusted identity" project are unusually scarce.
OMG NOEZ DE GOVERNMENT WILL HAZ CONTROL OVER US
I don't see a big deal, either. It doesn't matter to me, being from a different country and all, but that actually sounds like something pragmatic.
I don't want my password connected to my name and thus to me. I generally don't even use my real name to sign up. This bothers me. As a "if you want", sure. As a "you must do this"? No. Then that does sound sinister.
[QUOTE="ice144"]Did you read the article? "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities." Doesn't seem that bad to me, but whatever.LJS9502_basicSeems like it would be easier for the government to collect data on individuals. Trusted identities from the government? Do we really trust the government with that info? What the hell is the government going to do with such info?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ice144"]Did you read the article? "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities." Doesn't seem that bad to me, but whatever.Thunda_MonkeySeems like it would be easier for the government to collect data on individuals. Trusted identities from the government? Do we really trust the government with that info? What the hell is the government going to do with such info?Don't think the government doesn't keep tabs where they can....
[QUOTE="Thunda_Monkey"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Seems like it would be easier for the government to collect data on individuals. Trusted identities from the government? Do we really trust the government with that info?LJS9502_basicWhat the hell is the government going to do with such info?Don't think the government doesn't keep tabs where they can.... what does that even mean? lol you sound like Dale off of King Of The Hill
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Seems like it would be easier for the government to collect data on individuals. Trusted identities from the government? Do we really trust the government with that info?LJS9502_basicI trust them with my social security number, so yeah.Considering it's a government identification number that doesn't say much. It's a government identification with which my entire existence is verified. I'd say it's slightly more sensitive information than an online password.
"These digital IDs would be offered to consumers by online vendors for financial transactions.
Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said."
Sounds like it's not going to be required so I don't see what all the fuss is about.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] I trust them with my social security number, so yeah.TheokhothConsidering it's a government identification number that doesn't say much. It's a government identification with which my entire existence is verified. I'd say it's slightly more sensitive information than an online password. Got'em
What the hell is the government going to do with such info?Thunda_MonkeyOh lord, do not ask that here. You'll be stampeded with paranoid OTers that believe the government is out to get them and control every aspects of our lives.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Considering it's a government identification number that doesn't say much. LJS9502_basicIt's a government identification with which my entire existence is verified. I'd say it's slightly more sensitive information than an online password.Nonetheless it isn't a good analogy since it's government identification by definition. And don't think the gov can't find out more than you know by tracking that number if they so desire. However, it's a necessary evil as it's the identification the government assigns and requires. Not quite the same thing as handing over other information they have no need to know. Um, wat. And the 'net ID isn't?
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nonetheless it isn't a good analogy since it's government identification by definition. And don't think the gov can't find out more than you know by tracking that number if they so desire. However, it's a necessary evil as it's the identification the government assigns and requires. Not quite the same thing as handing over other information they have no need to know.LJS9502_basicUm, wat. And the 'net ID isn't? Not what I said. They have a tax identification number. They have no need to assign an internet ID. None at all. Not what you said? That was a direct quote. :?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Um, wat. And the 'net ID isn't?scorch-62Not what I said. They have a tax identification number. They have no need to assign an internet ID. None at all. Not what you said? That was a direct quote. :?No it's not SSN numbers are government numbers assigned for tax/salary purposes. Internet numbers serve no purpose other than being invasive. SSN = necessary evil for government recording and benefits. Internet ID =/= necessary purpose for government tax/employee benefits. A government number =/= number assigned by government.
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Not what I said. They have a tax identification number. They have no need to assign an internet ID. None at all.LJS9502_basicNot what you said? That was a direct quote. :?No it's not SSN numbers are government numbers assigned for tax/salary purposes. Internet numbers serve no purpose other than being invasive. SSN = necessary evil for government recording and benefits. Internet ID =/= necessary purpose for government tax/employee benefits. A government number =/= number assigned by government. Um, yes it was. I hit the quote button and everything. I can do it again if you don't believe me.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Not what you said? That was a direct quote. :?scorch-62No it's not SSN numbers are government numbers assigned for tax/salary purposes. Internet numbers serve no purpose other than being invasive. SSN = necessary evil for government recording and benefits. Internet ID =/= necessary purpose for government tax/employee benefits. A government number =/= number assigned by government. Um, yes it was. I hit the quote button and everything. I can do it again if you don't believe me.I'm sure you could rather than read my explanation where I told you several times the difference between a government ID...id one that gives one government benefits in addition to the goverment tracking income for tax purposes and an arbitrary number placed on one's internet.
Provided that it isn't mandatory that my name is connected to my internet accounts, it should be fine.
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