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No, Michelle going to Spain (and other nice vacation spots) on the taxpayers' dollar........ now THATS swag.It sure does take swag to campeign on the tax payers' dollar.
Pirate700
If he'd of jumped through it like a boss I would call that swag.Walking into a window thinking it's a door. THATS swag :P
Planet_Pluto
If he'd of jumped through it like a boss I would call that swag.If he had, I'd be inclined to agree. :)[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]
Walking into a window thinking it's a door. THATS swag :P
22Toothpicks
Oh what swag.......
Planet_Pluto
Oh wow, Obama paying respect to foreign leaders, the horror! The horror! God forbid our president would do that!
[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]
Oh what swag.......
chessmaster1989
Oh wow, Obama paying respect to foreign leaders, the horror! The horror! God forbid our president would do that!
Simple handshake wouldn't do?[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]
Oh what swag.......
Planet_Pluto
Oh wow, Obama paying respect to foreign leaders, the horror! The horror! God forbid our president would do that!
Simple handshake wouldn't do?Is there a particular problem with bowing? No seriously, I've heard a lot of conservatives complain about it but never heard why it's a bad thing...
Simple handshake wouldn't do?[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
Oh wow, Obama paying respect to foreign leaders, the horror! The horror! God forbid our president would do that!
chessmaster1989
Is there a particular problem with bowing? No seriously, I've heard a lot of conservatives complain about it but never heard why it's a bad thing...
In cultures that bow, bowing is to signify being below that person. That's why no president ever bows...except this one. The people he bowed to didn't do a full bow back for that very reason. You just don't do it.[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]Simple handshake wouldn't do?
Pirate700
Is there a particular problem with bowing? No seriously, I've heard a lot of conservatives complain about it but never heard why it's a bad thing...
In cultures that bow, bowing is to signify being below that person. That's why no president ever bows...except this one. The people he bowed to didn't do a full bow back for that very reason. You just don't do it.Not always true. Bows can used as a sign of greeting/respect, not necessarily related to status. This is (to my understanding) fairly common in several East Asian countries...
In cultures that bow, bowing is to signify being below that person. That's why no president ever bows...except this one. The people he bowed to didn't do a full bow back for that very reason. You just don't do it.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
Is there a particular problem with bowing? No seriously, I've heard a lot of conservatives complain about it but never heard why it's a bad thing...
chessmaster1989
Not always true. Bows can used as a sign of greeting/respect, not necessarily related to status. This is (to my understanding) fairly common in several East Asian countries...
Yes, always true. When it's a sign of greeting, BOTH people bow at the same time to then be at equal level. The leaders he bowed to did not bow back at all for that very reason. You do not bow to leaders of other countries. Period. Not even those leaders bow in those cases. You shake hands.[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]Simple handshake wouldn't do?
Pirate700
Is there a particular problem with bowing? No seriously, I've heard a lot of conservatives complain about it but never heard why it's a bad thing...
In cultures that bow, bowing is to signify being below that person. That's why no president ever bows...except this one. The people he bowed to didn't do a full bow back for that very reason. You just don't do it.And, for those who are claiming that Obama's bows were a sign of respect..... May I ask why the White House denied that he even did it in the first place?From Politico (Link)
The White House is denying that the president bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia at a G-20 meeting in London, a scene that drew criticism on the right and praise from some Arab outlets.
"It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah," said an Obama aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The Washington Times called the alleged bow a "shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate" and said it violated centuries of American tradition of not deferring to royalty.The Weekly Standard, meanwhile, noted that American protocol apparently rules out bowing, or at least it reportedly did on the occasion of a Clinton "near-bow" to the emperor of Japan.
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]In cultures that bow, bowing is to signify being below that person. That's why no president ever bows...except this one. The people he bowed to didn't do a full bow back for that very reason. You just don't do it.
Pirate700
Not always true. Bows can used as a sign of greeting/respect, not necessarily related to status. This is (to my understanding) fairly common in several East Asian countries...
Yes, always true. When it's a sign of greeting, BOTH people bow at the same time to then be at equal level. The leaders he bowed to did not bow back at all for that very reason. You do not bow to leaders of other countries. Period. Not even those leaders bow in those cases. You shake hands. Meh, go read up on the significance of bowing, I don't feel like trying to explain right now. I'm really sick of conservatives trying to make a big deal out of this when it's really nothing to get your panties all in a stir over. Usually I've got a good deal of respect for you Pirate but on this issue I can't understand why you're taking the position you are.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Yes, always true. When it's a sign of greeting, BOTH people bow at the same time to then be at equal level. The leaders he bowed to did not bow back at all for that very reason. You do not bow to leaders of other countries. Period. Not even those leaders bow in those cases. You shake hands. Meh, go read up on the significance of bowing, I don't feel like trying to explain right now. I'm really sick of conservatives trying to make a big deal out of this when it's really nothing to get your panties all in a stir over.[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
Not always true. Bows can used as a sign of greeting/respect, not necessarily related to status. This is (to my understanding) fairly common in several East Asian countries...
chessmaster1989
I know the significance of bowing. When you're just using it to say hello or as a greeting, both parties bow as equals and it's typically little more than a little head bow. And no matter what you don't bow as much as Obama did. Again, there is a reason nobody from the other party bowed back and just stared awkwardly at him.
Meh, go read up on the significance of bowing, I don't feel like trying to explain right now. I'm really sick of conservatives trying to make a big deal out of this when it's really nothing to get your panties all in a stir over.[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Yes, always true. When it's a sign of greeting, BOTH people bow at the same time to then be at equal level. The leaders he bowed to did not bow back at all for that very reason. You do not bow to leaders of other countries. Period. Not even those leaders bow in those cases. You shake hands.
Pirate700
I know the significance of bowing. When you're just using it to say hello or as a greeting, both parties bow as equals and it's typically little more than a little head bow. And no matter what you don't bow as much as Obama did. Again, there is a reason nobody from the other party bowed back and just stared awkwardly at him.
He's saying that he's given up, no point in arguing more, pirate. :PMeh, go read up on the significance of bowing, I don't feel like trying to explain right now. I'm really sick of conservatives trying to make a big deal out of this when it's really nothing to get your panties all in a stir over.[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Yes, always true. When it's a sign of greeting, BOTH people bow at the same time to then be at equal level. The leaders he bowed to did not bow back at all for that very reason. You do not bow to leaders of other countries. Period. Not even those leaders bow in those cases. You shake hands.
Pirate700
I know the significance of bowing. When you're just using it to say hello or as a greeting, both parties bow as equals and it's typically little more than a little head bow. And no matter what you don't bow as much as Obama did. Again, there is a reason nobody from the other party bowed back and just stared awkwardly at him.
.....Just stop...[QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Meh, go read up on the significance of bowing, I don't feel like trying to explain right now. I'm really sick of conservatives trying to make a big deal out of this when it's really nothing to get your panties all in a stir over.DaJuicyMan
I know the significance of bowing. When you're just using it to say hello or as a greeting, both parties bow as equals and it's typically little more than a little head bow. And no matter what you don't bow as much as Obama did. Again, there is a reason nobody from the other party bowed back and just stared awkwardly at him.
.....Just stop...Stop what? Answering his question and giving details to aid in the discussion?[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]
Oh what swag.......
chessmaster1989
Oh wow, Obama paying respect to foreign leaders, the horror! The horror! God forbid our president would do that!
no. we should be bombing them and making them submit to our POWAH!![QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Meh, go read up on the significance of bowing, I don't feel like trying to explain right now. I'm really sick of conservatives trying to make a big deal out of this when it's really nothing to get your panties all in a stir over.magicalclick
I know the significance of bowing. When you're just using it to say hello or as a greeting, both parties bow as equals and it's typically little more than a little head bow. And no matter what you don't bow as much as Obama did. Again, there is a reason nobody from the other party bowed back and just stared awkwardly at him.
This concludes Oboma like to show off his healthy back. Most of leaders are too old to bow and look at the young Obama is able to do it effortlessly.Heck, to be fair, I can't even bend that well. :lol:[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Stop what? Answering his question and giving details to aid in the discussion? Your argument is just so..... dumb.Being correct is dumb? That's funny coming from someone who hasn't contributed anything to the thread...[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] .....Just stop...DaJuicyMan
Your argument is just so..... dumb.Being correct is dumb? That's funny coming from someone who hasn't contributed anything to the thread... Ease up there bud. I'm just saying, this is a thread that really didn't need debate or any arguments. Some people in OT are just hankering for a fight...[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Stop what? Answering his question and giving details to aid in the discussion?
Pirate700
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Being correct is dumb? That's funny coming from someone who hasn't contributed anything to the thread... Ease up there bud. I'm just saying, this is a thread that really didn't need debate or any arguments. Some people in OT are just hankering for a fight...:lol: Someone asks a question, I back it up with educated details and all you have to add is my post is dumb. Who exactly is hankering for an argument?[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] Your argument is just so..... dumb.DaJuicyMan
Your argument is just so..... dumb.Being correct is dumb? That's funny coming from someone who hasn't contributed anything to the thread...[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Stop what? Answering his question and giving details to aid in the discussion?
Pirate700
I have to agree with Pirate lol.. nothing he's said isn't sensible.. But also, who gives a **** Great, he bowed to other leaders.. big deal. :p
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]:lol: Someone asks a question, I back it up with educated details and all you have to add is my post is dumb. Who exactly is hankering for an argument? The problem was, you're details weren't educated... That's why it was dumb. Relax...[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] Ease up there bud. I'm just saying, this is a thread that really didn't need debate or any arguments. Some people in OT are just hankering for a fight...DaJuicyMan
Actually they were educated and correct. And don't tell people to relax when you're the one calling what they say dumb, kiddo. That just makes you a troll.
The problem was, you're details weren't educated... That's why it was dumb. Relax...[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]:lol: Someone asks a question, I back it up with educated details and all you have to add is my post is dumb. Who exactly is hankering for an argument?
Pirate700
Actually they were educated and correct. And don't tell people to relax when you're the one calling what they say dumb, kiddo.
If this matters that much to you... Well, then this should just end. I'm not trying to be hostile, but it's seems you're taking what I'm saying that way. Again, ease up, life's too short to get all worked up about something a stranger said online.[QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] The problem was, you're details weren't educated... That's why it was dumb. Relax...DaJuicyMan
Actually they were educated and correct. And don't tell people to relax when you're the one calling what they say dumb, kiddo.
If this matters that much to you... Well, then this should just end. I'm not trying to be hostile, but it's seems you're taking what I'm saying that way. Again, ease up, life's too short to get all worked up about something a stranger said online.Again, you called what I said stupid and contributed nothing of your own. I'm not taking it seriously. Just trying to figure out why you're trolling.Simple handshake wouldn't do?[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
Oh wow, Obama paying respect to foreign leaders, the horror! The horror! God forbid our president would do that!
chessmaster1989
Is there a particular problem with bowing? No seriously, I've heard a lot of conservatives complain about it but never heard why it's a bad thing...
America does not bow to ANYONE[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]Simple handshake wouldn't do?
wiifan001
Is there a particular problem with bowing? No seriously, I've heard a lot of conservatives complain about it but never heard why it's a bad thing...
America does not bow to ANYONE Exactly. For as long as I can remember, there's always been that slogan "America's number One!"America does not bow to ANYONE Exactly. For as long as I can remember, there's always been that slogan "America's number One!"Which is pretty arrogant.[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
Is there a particular problem with bowing? No seriously, I've heard a lot of conservatives complain about it but never heard why it's a bad thing...
BranKetra
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