Obama's Blackshirts Raid Legal Marijuana Dispensaries in Washington State

and what was accomplished for society with this?yellosnolvr

The legalization of pot is going to be a long battle.  The government has billion of dollars invested in enforcement of marijuana laws with agents around the globe.  There would literally be thousands of law enforcement and correctional officers out of work if marijuana was legalized.  Money over morality.  Business as usual in the USA.

When good intentions go bad. 

Or when assholes just have nothing else better to do.

The legalization of pot is going to be a long battle.  The government has billion of dollars invested in enforcement of marijuana laws with agents around the globe.  There would literally be thousands of law enforcement and correctional officers out of work if marijuana was legalized.  Money over morality.  Business as usual in the USA.

junglist101

Yes, President Obama is personally involved in EVERY SINGLE act of the Federal government. FFS people get a grip. Blame the Feds if you want, but don't keep invoking the President every time. It's really petty, like him or hate him.

jimkabrhel

From the article: 

Forbes

Despite promises to the contrary on the campaign trail, the Obama administration has announced an escalation in its war on legal medical marijuana dispensaries in California and elsewhere. Federal prosecutors have sent letters to landlords and owners of dispensaries across California warning them to halt sales of marijuana within 45 days or face property seizures and other legal backlash, though some raids have already commenced.

In a press conference today, the four US Attorneys in California announced they would begin prosecuting operations across California in earnest, going much further than the Bush administration in cracking down on legal medical marijuana.

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

The legalization of pot is going to be a long battle.  The government has billion of dollars invested in enforcement of marijuana laws with agents around the globe.  There would literally be thousands of law enforcement and correctional officers out of work if marijuana was legalized.  Money over morality.  Business as usual in the USA.

Gaming-Planet

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

The legalization of pot is going to be a long battle.  The government has billion of dollars invested in enforcement of marijuana laws with agents around the globe.  There would literally be thousands of law enforcement and correctional officers out of work if marijuana was legalized.  Money over morality.  Business as usual in the USA.

Gaming-Planet

federal crackdown on states, yea that is an obama thing as bush was not 1/10 of the drug warrior that obama is. kinda like drone strikes. 

When good intentions go bad. 

Or when assholes just have nothing else better to do.

Gaming-Planet

federal crackdown on states, yea that is an obama thing as bush was not 1/10 of the drug warrior that obama is. kinda like drone strikes. 

surrealnumber5

Bush only wanted to impose America's will on other countries, not at home.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

federal crackdown on states, yea that is an obama thing as bush was not 1/10 of the drug warrior that obama is. kinda like drone strikes. 

jimkabrhel

Bush only wanted to impose America's will on other countries, not at home.

Completely ridiculous. The federal government should not be wasting time on stuff like this.

Completely ridiculous. The federal government should not be wasting time on stuff like this.

Jethawk11

Yeah, it is too bad. 

That sucks. I hope the next generation of politicians get with the times and legalizes it. Everyone smokes nowadays. 

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Gaming-Planet"] Why they considered Marijuana as a class A drug is beyond me.chrisrooR

Turns you into a dummy quicker. 

 It's true, and don't use logic with the law. The problem is marijuana causes hallucinogenics, tobacco and alcohol do not.

Turns you into a dummy quicker. 

Fightingfan

"Marijuana causes hallucinogenics." :lol: wut

A HALLUCINOGENis a drug that induces HALLUCINATIONS. Even after clearing that up, your post is still utter nonsense. Marijuana does NOT induce hallucinations, not unless combined with another drug like acid or mushrooms, in which case it can accentuate the visuals. How do I know this, you ask? Personal experience. Don't believe everything you read online kiddos. 

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

 It's true, and don't use logic with the law. The problem is marijuana causes hallucinogenics, tobacco and alcohol do not.

Turns you into a dummy quicker. 

psn8214

"Marijuana causes hallucinogenics." :lol: wut

A HALLUCINOGENis a drug that induces HALLUCINATIONS. Even after clearing that up, your post is still utter nonsense. Marijuana does NOT induce hallucinations, not unless combined with another drug like acid or mushrooms, in which case it can accentuate the visuals. How do I know this, you ask? Personal experience. Don't believe everything you read online kiddos. 

You also don't take into account not all side effects are the same for every individual. I take in over 6 grams of testosterone in two months and my mood isn't affected like the majoirty of users. 

Also I am correct - it can still be classifed as a mild hallucinogenic as it alters the state of mind of some individuals.

and what was accomplished for society with this?yellosnolvr

Mostly due to propaganda claiming that it was a tool of the devil and caused people to go insane.

junglist101

If your politicians were not so deep in the pockets of corporations as they sort of were the 30s when they realized prohibition was failing and used elementary logic to legalize alcohol so Al Copogne's friends could stop making a killing selling bootleg alcohol, then maybe the same could happen now with a drug that is much less harmful. 

Regardless of whether you agree with it or not, Federal law still says pot is illegal. Personally I don't think we should be using resources going after weed but the feds still have the legal right to do so. Maybe some of the people who want it legal across the US need to pool their resources to send a team of lawyers to Washington to challenge the laws instead of simply complaining on the net.ad1x2

^This.

I live in Seattle, and it happens all the time around here actually. It typically has nothing to do with marijuana being federally illegal. It has to do with dispensaries operating outside the bounds of Washington state law. Don't think that this is an act of federal agents running around and locking up random dispensaries because marijuana is federally illegal. It doesn't work that way. Ever wonder why states are allowed to pass laws that are federally illegal?

What a fvcking joke. Fvck the DEA. Pieces of shit. Rich3232

[QUOTE="Rich3232"]What a fvcking joke. Fvck the DEA. Pieces of shit. wolverine4262

The ignorance on these matters is ridiculous.

If your politicians were not so deep in the pockets of corporations as they sort of were the 30s when they realized prohibition was failing and used elementary logic to legalize alcohol so Al Copogne's friends could stop making a killing selling bootleg alcohol, then maybe the same could happen now with a drug that is much less harmful. 

BossPerson

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] It's been linked to mental retardation and stupidity - the killing of brain cells. Fightingfan

Turns you into a dummy quicker. 

*laughs hard*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_pink_elephants

*laughs harder* drugabuse.GOV....with results based upon bogus studies created specifically in mind to show pot as bad for you, nearly every study if you look deep the ""scientists"" worked their results to fit their theory not the other way around, they went in looking to find a specific thing and made sure they did, they ignored every black swan.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"] If this is even true, so has alcohol to an even greater extent. If we're going to decide that the negative social consequences of alcohol and tobacco are at an acceptable level for them to be legally consumed, our laws should reflect that. WilliamRLBaker

Turns you into a dummy quicker. 

*laughs hard*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_pink_elephants

*laughs harder* drugabuse.GOV....with results based upon bogus studies created specifically in mind to show pot as bad for you, nearly every study if you look deep the ""scientists"" worked their results to fit their theory not the other way around, they went in looking to find a specific thing and made sure they did, they ignored every black swan.

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

 It's true, and don't use logic with the law. The problem is marijuana causes hallucinogenics, tobacco and alcohol do not.

Turns you into a dummy quicker. 

Fightingfan

"Marijuana causes hallucinogenics." :lol: wut

A HALLUCINOGENis a drug that induces HALLUCINATIONS. Even after clearing that up, your post is still utter nonsense. Marijuana does NOT induce hallucinations, not unless combined with another drug like acid or mushrooms, in which case it can accentuate the visuals. How do I know this, you ask? Personal experience. Don't believe everything you read online kiddos. 

You also don't take into account not all side effects are the same for every individual. I take in over 6 grams of testosterone in two months and my mood isn't affected like the majoirty of users. 

Also I am correct - it can still be classifed as a mild hallucinogenic as it alters the state of mind of some individuals.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

It's true, and don't use logic with the law. The problem is marijuana causes hallucinogenics, tobacco and alcohol do not.

Turns you into a dummy quicker.

psn8214

"Marijuana causes hallucinogenics." :lol: wut

A HALLUCINOGENis a drug that induces HALLUCINATIONS. Even after clearing that up, your post is still utter nonsense. Marijuana does NOT induce hallucinations, not unless combined with another drug like acid or mushrooms, in which case it can accentuate the visuals. How do I know this, you ask? Personal experience. Don't believe everything you read online kiddos.

I live in Seattle, and it happens all the time around here actually. It typically has nothing to do with marijuana being federally illegal. It has to do with dispensaries operating outside the bounds of Washington state law. Don't think that this is an act of federal agents running around and locking up random dispensaries because marijuana is federally illegal. It doesn't work that way. Ever wonder why states are allowed to pass laws that are federally illegal?

KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]

I live in Seattle, and it happens all the time around here actually. It typically has nothing to do with marijuana being federally illegal. It has to do with dispensaries operating outside the bounds of Washington state law. Don't think that this is an act of federal agents running around and locking up random dispensaries because marijuana is federally illegal. It doesn't work that way. Ever wonder why states are allowed to pass laws that are federally illegal?

cain006

Yes, President Obama is personally involved in EVERY SINGLE act of the Federal government. FFS people get a grip. Blame the Feds if you want, but don't keep invoking the President every time. It's really petty, like him or hate him.

jimkabrhel

Should just make it nationally legal and be done with this.

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

"Marijuana causes hallucinogenics." :lol: wut

A HALLUCINOGENis a drug that induces HALLUCINATIONS. Even after clearing that up, your post is still utter nonsense. Marijuana does NOT induce hallucinations, not unless combined with another drug like acid or mushrooms, in which case it can accentuate the visuals. How do I know this, you ask? Personal experience. Don't believe everything you read online kiddos. 

Fightingfan

You also don't take into account not all side effects are the same for every individual. I take in over 6 grams of testosterone in two months and my mood isn't affected like the majoirty of users. 

Also I am correct - it can still be classifed as a mild hallucinogenic as it alters the state of mind of some individuals.

Lolz@this. Of course I believe in medical sciences. Hell, that's my major/future career. I STUDY the medical sciences (well, Pre-Med to be exact, but eh). :P I also realize, however, that citing outdated and notably biased government studies that, as some other users have indicated, drew their conclusions first and their data second is not necessarily the best argument against choosing to smoke. 

I also realize that it varies on a user to user basis. You are, I concede, correct in stating that it can exacerbate paranoia or anxiety in certain users. However, such is usually the result of pre-existing conditions that are merely accentuated by the drug, not created by the drug in and of itself. As far as out and out hallucinations? Please. Losing touch with reality? Even that is overstating its effects. It certainly alters your state of mind, although this is to be expected. Why smoke (barring using it as a medicine - bet you never researched that, did you kiddo? ;) ) if not to do just that? I'm sorry to put it bluntly but you need to get your facts straight.

PS. I don't care about your low testosterone; that's a completely different compound and has no bearing on this discussion whatsoever.

Seriously.. Once you do clean LSD.. you realize how damn mild weed.. Even on high amounts. Sure it can change your mindset.. but that's a good thing for most people.. Makes them sit down camly and think hard about themselves.. We need more of that.

The_Lipscomb

Truth my brother. The world would be a better place if everyone would sit down, smoke a bowl, and chillax every once in a while. I know there's nothing more satisfying after a long day of studying or busting my ass at work. Crack a brew, blaze a joint... that's the good life right there. :)

****ing seriously gamespot?

this nutbag shyt is who you are taking ad money from now?

biblical truths about investing?

****ing seriously gamespot?

this nutbag shyt is who you are taking ad money from now?

biblical truths about investing?

Riverwolf007

:lol: :lol: :lol:

He's praying his way to a stacked ass 401k!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Imagine if these agents were used for good instead of evil. This ties up a lot of resources.DaBrainz

Lolz@this. Of course I believe in medical sciences. Hell, that's my major/future career. I STUDY the medical sciences (well, Pre-Med to be exact, but eh). :P I also realize, however, that citing outdated and notably biased government studies that, as some other users have indicated, drew their conclusions first and their data second is not necessarily the best argument against choosing to smoke. 

I also realize that it varies on a user to user basis. You are, I concede, correct in stating that it can exacerbate paranoia or anxiety in certain users. However, such is usually the result of pre-existing conditions that are merely accentuated by the drug, not created by the drug in and of itself. As far as out and out hallucinations? Please. Losing touch with reality? Even that is overstating its effects. It certainly alters your state of mind, although this is to be expected. Why smoke (barring using it as a medicine - bet you never researched that, did you kiddo? ;) ) if not to do just that? I'm sorry to put it bluntly but you need to get your facts straight.

PS. I don't care about your low testosterone; that's a completely different compound and has no bearing on this discussion whatsoever.

psn8214

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"]

Seriously.. Once you do clean LSD.. you realize how damn mild weed.. Even on high amounts. Sure it can change your mindset.. but that's a good thing for most people.. Makes them sit down camly and think hard about themselves.. We need more of that.

psn8214

Truth my brother. The world would be a better place if everyone would sit down, smoke a bowl, and chillax every once in a while. I know there's nothing more satisfying after a long day of studying or busting my ass at work. Crack a brew, blaze a joint... that's the good life right there. :)

it can cause delusional perceptions. Like over-sensing something that is actually present (therefore not a true hallucination). Tasting stronger, for example. >.>

CptJSparrow

Yeah exactly. Much better/more concise way of wording that. 

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Imagine if these agents were used for good instead of evil. This ties up a lot of resources.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

"Marijuana causes hallucinogenics." :lol: wut

A HALLUCINOGENis a drug that induces HALLUCINATIONS. Even after clearing that up, your post is still utter nonsense. Marijuana does NOT induce hallucinations, not unless combined with another drug like acid or mushrooms, in which case it can accentuate the visuals. How do I know this, you ask? Personal experience. Don't believe everything you read online kiddos. 

The_Lipscomb

You also don't take into account not all side effects are the same for every individual. I take in over 6 grams of testosterone in two months and my mood isn't affected like the majoirty of users. 

Also I am correct - it can still be classifed as a mild hallucinogenic as it alters the state of mind of some individuals.