How many of you have read the graphic novel?
I'm just curious, because I'm going to see it with some friends tonight, and I'm the only one of us who hasn't actually read it...
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How many of you have read the graphic novel?
I'm just curious, because I'm going to see it with some friends tonight, and I'm the only one of us who hasn't actually read it...
I read it around the time when the first trailers were shown. Everyone everywhere was going on about Watchmen and the trailers looked bleh to me. So I read the GN to see what was so special about it, then rewatched the trailers and it blew my mind how close it looked to the GN. So seeing as I thought little of the trailers before I read the GN, but thought they were awesome after maybe that is the same for the movie.
I've read it (and actually already saw the movie today). The plot is changed slightly to make it easier to follow and the people I went to see it with found the movie very complex and concentrated but still possible to follow (I was the only one who had read the GN).How many of you have read the graphic novel?
I'm just curious, because I'm going to see it with some friends tonight, and I'm the only one of us who hasn't actually read it...
chessmaster1989
If you haven't read the book you have no business going to the movieJaysonguyI pretty much agree with this. I won't really take anyone's opinion seriously if they haven't read the novel. Well, off to the movies I go.
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]If you haven't read the book you have no business going to the moviesammyjenkis898I pretty much agree with this. I won't really take anyone's opinion seriously if they haven't read the novel. Well, off to the movies I go.
...okay I'm going to ignore that, because that's a bogus opinion. You can form a valid opinion of a movie without reading the book.
I pretty much agree with this. I won't really take anyone's opinion seriously if they haven't read the novel. Well, off to the movies I go.[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]If you haven't read the book you have no business going to the moviechessmaster1989
...okay I'm going to ignore that, because that's a bogus opinion. You can form a valid opinion of a movie without reading the book.
No The movie is only PART of the story In order to get the full story you need to read the book as well It's like reading a chapter of a book in Readers Digest and then saying you understand what point the author was trying to make You have no clue[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]If you haven't read the book you have no business going to the movieCaddy06_88That totally isn't true. I have read the book, and I am going to see it tonight, but it's a film and anybody can go and see it, and with any luck, anybody can enjoy it. Is the movie close to 6 hours long? No it's not The movie is a completely different animal then it's literary counterpart The people who only see the movie and enjoy it didn't enjoy the Watchmen. They enjoyed a gritty action movie. Only by taking in the original material and see it being adapted to the big screen can they understand it all Everyone else is just seeing a generic action movie
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] I pretty much agree with this. I won't really take anyone's opinion seriously if they haven't read the novel. Well, off to the movies I go.Jaysonguy
...okay I'm going to ignore that, because that's a bogus opinion. You can form a valid opinion of a movie without reading the book.
No The movie is only PART of the story In order to get the full story you need to read the book as well It's like reading a chapter of a book in Readers Digest and then saying you understand what point the author was trying to make You have no clueAlmost every movie adaptation of a book leaves out parts of the book.
Also, thanks for telling me what I can and cannot understand. You have no valid basis for making that assumption, if you watched the movie after reading the graphic novel.
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Also, thanks for telling me what I can and cannot understand. You have no valid basis for making that assumptionJaysonguyWill you see the entire story in the movie? No Therefore will you understand the story? No All they cut were subplots. You will understand the story fine. :? I went with a friend who hadn't read the graphic novel and he loved the movie. You are totally entitled to being a purist and saying the graphic novel is better, but even if you haven't read it the movie will still make sense.
If you haven't read the book you have no business going to the movieJaysonguyFunny,last I checked,including my experiences on these boards in the past,90% of fans,especially on gamespot did not even get into watchmen untill this movie. Then they all went out and read it in the last six months and now they are the only exclusive club whos opinions matter? Im almost glad I stopped caring about this comic somewhere back in like '95.
I've read it. My friend gave it to me for Christmas and I read it in January. I'm not sure if I'm seeing it this weekend, though.
Really, I just wanna see it just to see this on the big screen.
I look forward to the actor's preformance of, "RRAAAARL"
Read it a few times over the years...FragStainsYeah me too. Which is why I do not get why the rabid group of fanboys that rose out of nowhere in the last six months gets to call the shots on who is worthy to see this film. In a way it reminds me of the emporers new clothes,like they are all struggling to prove that they "get" it more than anyone else. Pathetic really.
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Also, thanks for telling me what I can and cannot understand. You have no valid basis for making that assumptionJaysonguyWill you see the entire story in the movie? No Therefore will you understand the story? No
Oh, give me a break. I saw Fellowship of the Rings before reading the Lord of the Rings. Do you know how much they cut from the part of the Lord of the Rings that was equivalent to the movie? Guess what-I still understood it.
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Also, thanks for telling me what I can and cannot understand. You have no valid basis for making that assumptionSkylinePigeonWill you see the entire story in the movie? No Therefore will you understand the story? No All they cut were subplots. You will understand the story fine. :? I went with a friend who hadn't read the graphic novel and he loved the movie. You are totally entitled to being a purist and saying the graphic novel is better, but even if you haven't read it the movie will still make sense. I'm not saying the novel is better, some people just aren't readers They streamlined the movie. They took away part of the depth of the characters. Imagine a character that went through 10 life changing events in a book In the movie that character goes through 2 in a movie Do you get the basic idea? Hopefully Do you understand the character as intended? No It's impossible to get as much information from the movie as you do the book. Since the book has very little action and is driven by it's narrative people who only see the movie are going to be missing what makes the Watchmen the Watchmen. It's just another action movie for those who only see the movie
I'm not saying the novel is better, some people just aren't readers They streamlined the movie. They took away part of the depth of the characters. Imagine a character that went through 10 life changing events in a book In the movie that character goes through 2 in a movie Do you get the basic idea? Hopefully Do you understand the character as intended? No It's impossible to get as much information from the movie as you do the book. Since the book has very little action and is driven by it's narrative people who only see the movie are going to be missing what makes the Watchmen the Watchmen. It's just another action movie for those who only see the movieJaysonguyThis post just proves my point on the emporers new clothes,that this is just turning into a ******* contest over who "gets" it more. If someone goes to the movie and enjoys it and gets there moneys worth,will it really kill them that they did not get all this "depth" people are complaing about. No. Why? because its a MOVIE. based on a COMIC BOOK. And one that is really getting ridicoulsly hyped beyond its worth,mostly by people that did not even get into it untill this movie,and did not even know it exsisted or ignored it in the other 15-20 years its been around.
[QUOTE="FragStains"]Read it a few times over the years...mattykovaxYeah me too. Which is why I do not get why the rabid group of fanboys that rose out of nowhere in the last six months gets to call the shots on who is worthy to see this film. In a way it reminds me of the emporers new clothes,like they are all struggling to prove that they "get" it more than anyone else. Pathetic really.I read it years back in my freshman english class in college...weird, but true. This happens all the time...people strive to be 'old school' for some reason.
[QUOTE="SkylinePigeon"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"] Will you see the entire story in the movie? No Therefore will you understand the story? NoJaysonguyAll they cut were subplots. You will understand the story fine. :? I went with a friend who hadn't read the graphic novel and he loved the movie. You are totally entitled to being a purist and saying the graphic novel is better, but even if you haven't read it the movie will still make sense. I'm not saying the novel is better, some people just aren't readers
You know, some people read a lot and have never read Watchmen...
I'm not saying the novel is better, some people just aren't readers[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="SkylinePigeon"] All they cut were subplots. You will understand the story fine. :? I went with a friend who hadn't read the graphic novel and he loved the movie. You are totally entitled to being a purist and saying the graphic novel is better, but even if you haven't read it the movie will still make sense. chessmaster1989
You know, some people read a lot and have never read Watchmen...
And you have pretty good taste in literature also....[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"] I'm not saying the novel is better, some people just aren't readers mattykovax
You know, some people read a lot and have never read Watchmen...
And you have pretty good taste in literature also....Thank you :).
I'm working on my top books list, but it's hard to make... I have my top 10 more or less done, but it could still change :P. And the top 50... well... that will hopefully be done soon.
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"] I'm not saying the novel is better, some people just aren't readers They streamlined the movie. They took away part of the depth of the characters. Imagine a character that went through 10 life changing events in a book In the movie that character goes through 2 in a movie Do you get the basic idea? Hopefully Do you understand the character as intended? No It's impossible to get as much information from the movie as you do the book. Since the book has very little action and is driven by it's narrative people who only see the movie are going to be missing what makes the Watchmen the Watchmen. It's just another action movie for those who only see the movieSkylinePigeonIf you're not even saying you think the graphic novel is better then why are you so adamant that they have to read it? And honestly I'm trying to think of substantial character information they cut out of the movie, but there really isn't anything. Like I said, my friend who hadn't read it and went with me came out of the movie talking about the ending moral quandry--the EXACT same thing I came out wanting to talk about when I finished the book. The film packs in the same questions. But honestly, if you're someone who's called Dr. Manhatton "Dr. JERKITON" then I'm not sure how you are complaining about someone not getting the full effect of the novel...
Dr Manhattan IS a jerk lol
The fact that the main thing you were talking about is the "moral quandary" when you left the theater shows that some of the most important pieces in Watchmen are gone.
You were talking about the the 4th biggest part of the story at best.
Alan Moore wont even have anything to do with the movie because it does not deliver the messages that he put in the book
Alan Moore doesn't own the Watchmen (because of the awful comic standards in the 80's) so he couldn't stop it. If he DID own it there wouldn't be a movie right now.
If you're not even saying you think the graphic novel is better then why are you so adamant that they have to read it? And honestly I'm trying to think of substantial character information they cut out of the movie, but there really isn't anything. Like I said, my friend who hadn't read it and went with me came out of the movie talking about the ending moral quandry--the EXACT same thing I came out wanting to talk about when I finished the book. The film packs in the same questions. But honestly, if you're someone who's called Dr. Manhatton "Dr. JERKITON" then I'm not sure how you are complaining about someone not getting the full effect of the novel...[QUOTE="SkylinePigeon"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"] I'm not saying the novel is better, some people just aren't readers They streamlined the movie. They took away part of the depth of the characters. Imagine a character that went through 10 life changing events in a book In the movie that character goes through 2 in a movie Do you get the basic idea? Hopefully Do you understand the character as intended? No It's impossible to get as much information from the movie as you do the book. Since the book has very little action and is driven by it's narrative people who only see the movie are going to be missing what makes the Watchmen the Watchmen. It's just another action movie for those who only see the movieJaysonguy
Dr Manhattan IS a jerk lol
The fact that the main thing you were talking about is the "moral quandary" when you left the theater shows that some of the most important pieces in Watchmen are gone.
You were talking about the the 4th biggest part of the story at best.
Alan Moore wont even have anything to do with the movie because it does not deliver the messages that he put in the book
Alan Moore doesn't own the Watchmen (because of the awful comic standards in the 80's) so he couldn't stop it. If he DID own it there wouldn't be a movie right now.
Moore stated that the film script was as close anyone could get to Watchmen. From someone like Alan Moore, I'll take that as a blessing.I read it and thought it was a shadow of the graphic novel, my friends, except one, disagree though.
What made the Watchmen special was it was a different side of superheroes. When it was transitioned into film I lost all connections I had with characters, with the exception of Dr. Manhattan, primarily due to bad acting and how poorly the story transitioned in the sense that it seemed convoluted when put into film. What worked on paper did not work on the big screen.
The action is great though and I think thats what most people are basing their opinions on. If you're looking for what the graphic novel really represents then you're better off watching the Dark Knight. It pulls off the side effects of being a hero better than the Watchmen movie does.
Something terrible happened and I blame the director. I've had more of a connection with Pixar movie character than I did with the Watchmen movie characters, which is extremely sad because many lines in the movie are straight from the graphic novel. O well I'm sure someone is going to try to tear me apart for this.
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="SkylinePigeon"] If you're not even saying you think the graphic novel is better then why are you so adamant that they have to read it? And honestly I'm trying to think of substantial character information they cut out of the movie, but there really isn't anything. Like I said, my friend who hadn't read it and went with me came out of the movie talking about the ending moral quandry--the EXACT same thing I came out wanting to talk about when I finished the book. The film packs in the same questions. But honestly, if you're someone who's called Dr. Manhatton "Dr. JERKITON" then I'm not sure how you are complaining about someone not getting the full effect of the novel...FragStains
Dr Manhattan IS a jerk lol
The fact that the main thing you were talking about is the "moral quandary" when you left the theater shows that some of the most important pieces in Watchmen are gone.
You were talking about the the 4th biggest part of the story at best.
Alan Moore wont even have anything to do with the movie because it does not deliver the messages that he put in the book
Alan Moore doesn't own the Watchmen (because of the awful comic standards in the 80's) so he couldn't stop it. If he DID own it there wouldn't be a movie right now.
Moore stated that the film script was as close anyone could get to Watchmen. From someone like Alan Moore, I'll take that as a blessing.When did he say that?
Because here's his quote about the movie
"Will the film even be coming out? There are these legal problems now, which I find wonderfully ironic. Perhaps it's been cursed from afar, from England. And I can tell you that I will also be spitting venom all over it for months to come."
He said the Watchmen is not filmable
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]You were talking about the the 4th biggest part of the story at best.Caddy06_88Opinions - People have them.
Yes, Alan Moore said it was the 4th biggest part of the story.
I trust the writer when he says what elements ranked in what order of importance
Moore stated that the film script was as close anyone could get to Watchmen. From someone like Alan Moore, I'll take that as a blessing.[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Dr Manhattan IS a jerk lol
The fact that the main thing you were talking about is the "moral quandary" when you left the theater shows that some of the most important pieces in Watchmen are gone.
You were talking about the the 4th biggest part of the story at best.
Alan Moore wont even have anything to do with the movie because it does not deliver the messages that he put in the book
Alan Moore doesn't own the Watchmen (because of the awful comic standards in the 80's) so he couldn't stop it. If he DID own it there wouldn't be a movie right now.
Jaysonguy
When did he say that?
Because here's his quote about the movie
"Will the film even be coming out? There are these legal problems now, which I find wonderfully ironic. Perhaps it's been cursed from afar, from England. And I can tell you that I will also be spitting venom all over it for months to come."
He said the Watchmen is not filmable
First Line. He says that he won't being seeing it because that is not how he thinks Watchmen is supposed to be experienced.[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] I pretty much agree with this. I won't really take anyone's opinion seriously if they haven't read the novel. Well, off to the movies I go.Jaysonguy
...okay I'm going to ignore that, because that's a bogus opinion. You can form a valid opinion of a movie without reading the book.
No The movie is only PART of the story In order to get the full story you need to read the book as well It's like reading a chapter of a book in Readers Digest and then saying you understand what point the author was trying to make You have no clue The DVD release will have two longer versions I believe, but yeah, its better if you've read the novel so you dont get lost.Please Log In to post.
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