official list of obama's broken promises

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#51 Planet_Pluto
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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

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:lol: They gave him an 'in the works' for Securing the Borders. :lol: Yeah, border security sure sounds important to him when he speaks to La Raza. :lol:

But the single fact that people are holding him to "securing borders" as a promise is astounding. I don't see how majority of these are "promises" There's many people that want to do something but even as president, that doesn't mean you can. There are other circumstances that you hae to consider. I want world peace, but c'mon? We can only focus on so much at a time.

And when you have a republican base who's:

"my sole purpose is to make Barack Obama a one term president" - mitch McConnell

Then I find it even more ridiculous to see right wing conservatives complain about Obama's effieciency. It's like, if you want him to accomplish stuff...stop getting in his way. Yet when do you get in his way and stop him, you complain that he is not accomplishing anything....

It was Obama's decision to send Eric Holder after Arizona regarding the laws they passed to secure the borders (as he is now about to do to Alabama). So not only is he doing NOTHING about the borders, he's actually preventing states from doing something about the borders.

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#52 -Karmum-
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And let's see which promises he has kept. 139-42. I like their opinion over yours.

Edit - Somebody beat me to it, but nevertheless.

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#53 BiancaDK
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Survival of the fittest

We have the power to put a boot on people's throats, we use it.

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Don't say "we" as if you been granted even the slightest of participation in terms of this power, the machine does what it does according to its own agendas and whatever ulterior motives it might have, and the process ranging from the first spark of decision making to the actual execution of the planned is a process that is completely out of your hands, just like it's out of the hands of the general north american public.

You're in the machine by happenstance, you're not fit, the machine is fit, you do not have any power, it however has power over you, you do not use it, it uses you.

Survival of the fittest?

Indeed, but follow it up with "with the use of the dumbest".

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#54 Stavrogin_
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[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The US invaded Iraq because of the threat of WMDs. Obama doesn't speak for everyone FYI.LJS9502_basic
And you actually believe this or are just screwing around with me?

Believe what? The debate for war with Iraq was always about WMDs...never over the liberation of the Iraqis. As for Obama.....you can only hold his statements to his motivations. Not others.

WMDs that didn't exist. And dear president Bush has stated several time that [bush's voice]we will liberate the Iraqi people from the rule of a tyrant[/bush's voice] - paraphrasing. Also wasn't that operation called Iraqi Freedom? Sure, the excuse was WMDs and yet they stayed there after there were conclusive proofs that those weapons did not exist, so we can say that they're now "liberating" the Iraqi people and stabilizing the country.


Also, i think it's pretty foolish to believe that foreign aid is donated because they care about making the world a better place when they don't, it's all about interest, that's pretty obvious. Every country has its interest at first place not just the US.

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#55 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Stavrogin_"] And you actually believe this or are just screwing around with me?Stavrogin_

Believe what? The debate for war with Iraq was always about WMDs...never over the liberation of the Iraqis. As for Obama.....you can only hold his statements to his motivations. Not others.

WMDs that didn't exist. And dear president Bush has stated several time that [bush's voice]we will liberate the Iraqi people from the rule of a tyrant[/bush's voice] - paraphrasing. Also wasn't that operation called Iraqi Freedom? Sure, the excuse was WMDs and yet they stayed there after there were conclusive proofs that those weapons did not exist, so we can say that they're now "liberating" the Iraqi people and stabilizing the country.


Also, i think it's pretty foolish to believe that foreign aid is donated because they care about making the world a better place when they don't, it's all about interest, that's pretty obvious. Every country has its interest at first place not just the US.

They existed at one time but were removed prior. But that isn't my argument. You said we thought we were liberating the Iraqi people....and we never thought that. It was always about the WMDs.

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#56 Stavrogin_
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They existed at one time but were removed prior. But that isn't my argument. You said we thought we were liberating the Iraqi people....and we never thought that. It was always about the WMDs.LJS9502_basic
Okay, fair point. But some people i've discussed with think that. That's probably because Bush himself has mentioned "liberating the Iraqi people" in most of his speeches about the war. That's why, some Americans, not an insignificant number of them i might add, think that the US role in Iraq was destroying WMDs and liberating the Iraqi people.

Don't say "we" as if you been granted even the slightest of participation in terms of this power, the machine does what it does according to its own agendas and whatever ulterior motives it might have, and the process ranging from the first spark of decision making to the actual execution of the planned is a process that is completely out of your hands, just like it's out of the hands of the general north american public.

You're in the machine by happenstance, you're not fit, the machine is fit, you do not have any power, it however has power over you, you do not use it, it uses you.

Survival of the fittest?

Indeed, but follow it up with "with the use of the dumbest".

BiancaDK


Very well said. :)