Oh, so this got under-reported on OT: Sultan is Dead

Well, the guy that drove my family out of our home, took my parents' entire life-time savings of $1m, and had them on debt of $2k/mo up to date (was five years ago), is finally dead; I hear the king isn't well either...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/politics-obituaries/8844666/Crown-Prince-Sultan-Ibn-Abdul-Aziz-al-Saud.html

So that leaves us with Naif I guess (hey man, how's the KACST servers going?)? Well, if so, then two things I am please with: 1- happy because he will crush this idiotic generation that thinks Al Saud are Allah in flesh and sap their souls right out of their bodies. 2- he will straighten up this generation.

Discuss and try not to stray away (lol).

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[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]Who?KiIIyou

The guy that was supposed to take the crown after the Saudi King. What, do you guys kiss cheeks and bow to whoever his ass touches the throne?Victorious_Fize

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"][QUOTE="KiIIyou"]Some wizardcd_rom

I thought that was Jafar.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]The guy that was supposed to take the crown after the Saudi King. What, do you guys kiss cheeks and bow to whoever his ass touches the throne?foxhound_fox

I'm from the Middle East and find the OP somehow confusing.GazaAli

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]The guy that was supposed to take the crown after the Saudi King. What, do you guys kiss cheeks and bow to whoever his ass touches the throne?Victorious_Fize

Whatever countries or parties the U.S. government allies with is generally at odds with whom its citizens like. I've had way too many conversations about this in which the other party suggests using nuclear weapons to destroy the entire Middle East region.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Bitter much? You are aware this is an American site populated mostly by American people who would know nothing about your personal interactions with a foreign nation they know very little about... right? Politics of Saudi Arabia are probably not a very popular general-interest topic outside of those who it involves directly. Talk to SaudiFury about it, he'll probably understand what you are going on about.jetpower3

Whatever countries or parties the U.S. government allies with is generally at odds with whom its citizens like. I've had way too many conversations about this in which the other party suggests using nuclear weapons to destroy the entire Middle East region.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]The guy that was supposed to take the crown after the Saudi King. What, do you guys kiss cheeks and bow to whoever his ass touches the throne?Victorious_Fize

It was reported on CNN and other mainstream media.

Not too many people in the west could name the Saudi king.

Fewer could name his brother/sucessor.

Even fewer really thought or cared about whether the 80+ year old potential sucessor to the king would live long enough to become king.

And nobody thought that if he did become king that anything would change.

So what you have is an old dead saudi royal whose death was normal due to age/possibly cancer and no one cares. Why should they? And if Abdullah also died tomorrow and Nayef became king, what really would change?

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Well, judging that you read the opening, I think you can see how a person will easily smell my hatred of them from a mile... America and the GCC in general are known to be extremely important allies, I thought this was of importance because not all the brothers are like-headed people, and one can be vastly different from the other, surely people are familiar with Faisal and the 1973 oil crisis. But I think you're right, perhaps it didn't reach for a reason. Alas.Victorious_Fize

Whatever countries or parties the U.S. government allies with is generally at odds with whom its citizens like. I've had way too many conversations about this in which the other party suggests using nuclear weapons to destroy the entire Middle East region.

I can't speak for everyone obviously, but in my experience, this form of militarism is surprisingly widespread, even among highly developed regions and those who are well educated and accomplished. Although, it is true that I live near NYC and among those highly affected by the 9/11 attacks. I guess no one's immune, even many years later and especially on top of many previous years of distrust.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Bitter much? You are aware this is an American site populated mostly by American people who would know nothing about your personal interactions with a foreign nation they know very little about... right? Politics of Saudi Arabia are probably not a very popular general-interest topic outside of those who it involves directly. Talk to SaudiFury about it, he'll probably understand what you are going on about.SUD123456

It was reported on CNN and other mainstream media.

Not too many people in the west could name the Saudi king.

Fewer could name his brother/sucessor.

Even fewer really thought or cared about whether the 80+ year old potential sucessor to the king would live long enough to become king.

And nobody thought that if he did become king that anything would change.

So what you have is an old dead saudi royal whose death was normal due to age/possibly cancer and no one cares. Why should they? And if Abdullah also died tomorrow and Nayef became king, what really would change?

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]

Whatever countries or parties the U.S. government allies with is generally at odds with whom its citizens like. I've had way too many conversations about this in which the other party suggests using nuclear weapons to destroy the entire Middle East region.

jetpower3

I can't speak for everyone obviously, but in my experience, this form of militarism is surprisingly widespread, even among highly developed regions and those who are well educated and accomplished. Although, it is true that I live near NYC and among those highly affected by the 9/11 attacks. I guess no one's immune, even many years later and especially on top of many previous years of distrust.

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Hehehe, I've always considered this simplistic view to be part of how well-rooted militarism (nothing wrong with that, although first of its kind, I must say) is in your average Americans. It's like their "I don't know", correct? :PVictorious_Fize

I can't speak for everyone obviously, but in my experience, this form of militarism is surprisingly widespread, even among highly developed regions and those who are well educated and accomplished. Although, it is true that I live near NYC and among those highly affected by the 9/11 attacks. I guess no one's immune, even many years later and especially on top of many previous years of distrust.

Well, in any case, that pride is for all the wrong reasons I fear. I can't tell you just how sick I am of hearing the words "fighting for our freedom" when I know that in fact that the military is fighting a very different war (of more economic and geopolitical consequences). The argument of whether that war should be fought or not is irrelevant to me, but the fact is that through all of this Islamophobia, militarism, and those slogans, the reality is getting very distorted.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]

I can't speak for everyone obviously, but in my experience, this form of militarism is surprisingly widespread, even among highly developed regions and those who are well educated and accomplished. Although, it is true that I live near NYC and among those highly affected by the 9/11 attacks. I guess no one's immune, even many years later and especially on top of many previous years of distrust.

jetpower3

Well, in any case, that pride is for all the wrong reasons I fear. I can't tell you just how sick I am of hearing the words "fighting for our freedom" when I know that in fact that the military is fighting a very different war (of more economic and geopolitical consequences). The argument of whether that war should be fought or not is irrelevant to me, but the fact is that through all of this Islamophobia, militarism, and those slogans, the reality is getting very distorted.