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#1 Keyblade_150
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On your iTunes what song is your most played and how many times have you played it?

Fall Out Boy- Beat It, 13 times
(haven't had my iPod that long).

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#2 nimatoad2000
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lol itunes.. lol
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lol itunes.. lolnimatoad2000
I lol'd. I hate itunes but I still use it anyway. I'm weird like that.
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#4 Keyblade_150
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lol itunes.. lolnimatoad2000
..Hilarious.
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#5 Wae416
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All of my music recently disappeared from my itunes, so I had to go into the music folder and reopened them all manually. So all of my plays are gone.

But since 5 days ago, my most played song is To A Husband At War - I Hate Myself, with 8 plays.

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#6 xfactor19990
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yay foobar2k
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#7 DarkGamer007
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Time - Pink Floyd 560 plays. 8)

I don't like iTunes or iPods but I still own one, I don't play my music from iTunes, I normally play the CD or Vinyl (unless I'm just feeling to damn lazy. :P)

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#8 LJS9502_basic  Online
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I don't use itunes...
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Immediate Music - Serenata. 372 plays.

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#10 Oakfront
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Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

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#11 battlefront23
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"Stick Stickly" - Attack Attack!

A little over 300 hits.

"Composure" - August Burns Red is in a close second.

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I believe it is "Give It Away" by RHCP with 36 plays

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Holy Wars...The Punishment Due - Megadeth. 47 plays.
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#14 battlefront23
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Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

Oakfront
If something's popular, odds are OT won't like it.
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#15 xfactor19990
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[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

battlefront23
If something's popular, odds are OT won't like it.

well dont quote me, but doesn't it use alot of memory etc
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#16 jensen_slipknot
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Oakfront"] If something's popular, odds are OT won't like it.

[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

battlefront23
If something's popular, odds are OT won't like it.

Exactly, thats the only thing I hate about OT
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#17 Serraph105
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Paint it Black with 33 plays

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The General by Dispatch. 106 plays. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JjlkfX5Gk&feature=related I must have had that song on repeat for days when I first heard it.
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#19 Yandere
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When I used itunes (ages ago) it was around 4000 plays for "Feel Good Inc".

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#20 bluezy
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I use Windows Media Player. And currently my top song is "Do It Alone" by Sugarcult, played 84 times.
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#21 JigglyWiggly_
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Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

Oakfront
No it's not. It can't play flac files, and it sucks. Slow, I rather stick with winamp or wmp.
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[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

battlefront23

If something's popular, odds are OT won't like it.

I think it has something to do with it actually being pretty terrible, like most other Apple products and software.

I don't use itunes but my most played song is "In My Head" by Queens of the Stone Age with 143 plays.

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#23 jensen_slipknot
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For those of you who dont like iTunes, in explanation would make sense.
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The album version of Ruiner has 130. Which is the highest of all the plays, although with harddrive failures and such, it is impossible to measure what has been played most on my computer, let alone on CD and Vinyl...

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#25 nimatoad2000
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Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

Oakfront

EDIT : for the guy who wanted the explanation for why itunes is bad, here u go.

because it is not, mediamonkey and foobar 2000 are way better than it. both can play FLAC. i personally like mediamonkey over foobar , mediamonkey orgianizes your files better than itunes, takes up less memory, has better tag options, has a great file renaming scheme, can auto tag tiles from the internet using freedb ( art included) its way faster loading, and dosnt lag even with my 16 thowsand files, itunes is horrible on pc, back when i had even 6k songs itd lag when scrolling. this is on a Quad core 2.5 ghz with 4 gigs of ram, mediamonkey is perfect. OH DID I MENTION YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR IPOD WITH IT? FASTER AND WITH MORE OPTIONS. just because itunes is the most popular dosn't mean its the best, most things that are the most popular are not the best. how bout trying the other players before making a blind statement like that.

EDIT: oh yeah forgot , it cant play Flac or any of the lossless formats.

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#26 Oakfront
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

Dark_Knight6

If something's popular, odds are OT won't like it.

I think it has something to do with it actually being pretty terrible, like most other Apple products and software.

I don't use itunes but my most played song is "In My Head" by Queens of the Stone Age with 143 plays.

I agree as i'm not a fan of iPods or Macs, but there's nothing wrong whatso ever with iTunes, please tell me what's terrible about it?

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For those of you who dont like iTunes, in explanation would make sense. jensen_slipknot

It's incredibley slow on Windows and plays what plays what? Two formats?

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#28 DarkGamer007
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I hate iTunes because

1) It mistakes my albums for other albums (Guns N' Roses: Greatest Hits IS NOT MICHAEL ****ING JACKSON)

2) It seperates my artist because one song was composed with someone else or buy someone else. i.e. with A Kind of Magic by Queen it tells me that Queen and Queen & Michael Kamen are two different artists and seperates the tracks from the album.

3) I have to upload all my cover art manually

4) It promotes digital distrobution of music, the worst sound, least physical form of music there is. Call me jaded but I like opening CDs and Vinyls, I like seeing the cover art (Vinyl) in all its 12 x 12 inch glory. I like being able to open a gate fold or flip through the booklet of a CD. I like the whole package, not just part of it. And in terms of quality

Vinyl > CD >> MP3's.

5) I hate iPods for the simple things that annoy me. Like when it turns back on just because I plug my headphones into it, the gyroscope doesn't work properly, shake to shuffle (you can turn it off) is just impracticle and pointless. Annoying clicking noise every time I scroll through a menu or use any of the buttons on the iPod, no radio, and the iPod can only be used with iTunes and sometimes SharePod (if you are luckly). You can't remove the battery which is just a **** move by Apple to get you to buy another iPod instead of buying a cheap battery.

I could go on but I don't feel like it.

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#29 xfactor19990
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[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

nimatoad2000
because it is not, mediamonkey and foobar 2000 are way better than it. both can play FLAC. i personally like mediamonkey over foobar , mediamonkey orgianizes your files better than itunes, takes up less memory, has better tag options, has a great file renaming scheme, can auto tag tiles from the internet using freedb ( art included) its way faster loading, and dosnt lag even with my 16 thowsand files, itunes is horrible on pc, back when i had even 6k songs itd lag when scrolling. this is on a Quad core 2.5 ghz with 4 gigs of ram, mediamonkey is perfect. OH DID I MENTION YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR IPOD WITH IT? FASTER AND WITH MORE OPTIONS. just because itunes is the most popular dosn't mean its the best, most things that are the most popular are not the best. how bout trying the other players before making a blind statement like that.

exactly
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#30 jensen_slipknot
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[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"]For those of you who dont like iTunes, in explanation would make sense. Dark_Knight6

It's incredibley slow on Windows and plays what plays what? Two formats?

If your not an audiophile the formats dont matter, sounds great to me.
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#31 Oakfront
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[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

nimatoad2000

because it is not, mediamonkey and foobar 2000 are way better than it. both can play FLAC. i personally like mediamonkey over foobar , mediamonkey orgianizes your files better than itunes, takes up less memory, has better tag options, has a great file renaming scheme, can auto tag tiles from the internet using freedb ( art included) its way faster loading, and dosnt lag even with my 16 thowsand files, itunes is horrible on pc, back when i had even 6k songs itd lag when scrolling. this is on a Quad core 2.5 ghz with 4 gigs of ram, mediamonkey is perfect. OH DID I MENTION YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR IPOD WITH IT? FASTER AND WITH MORE OPTIONS. just because itunes is the most popular dosn't mean its the best, most things that are the most popular are not the best. how bout trying the other players before making a blind statement like that.

Blind statement? Hardly. I've used dozen's of other players, and out of them all i would take iTunes all day long.

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#32 Samwel_X
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2) It seperates my artist because one song was composed with someone else or buy someone else. i.e. with A Kind of Magic by Queen it tells me that Queen and Queen & Michael Kamen are two different artists and seperates the tracks from the album.

DarkGamer007

That is the only real problem I have with itunes, and it is a mild inconvenience at most...

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#33 ramboturd72
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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

I hate iTunes because

1) It mistakes my albums for other albums (Guns N' Roses: Greatest Hits IS NOT MICHAEL ****ING JACKSON)

2) It seperates my artist because one song was composed with someone else or buy someone else. i.e. with A Kind of Magic by Queen it tells me that Queen and Queen & Michael Kamen are two different artists and seperates the tracks from the album.

3) I have to upload all my cover art manually

4) It promotes digital distrobution of music, the worst sound, least physical form of music there is. Call me jaded but I like opening CDs and Vinyls, I like seeing the cover art (Vinyl) in all its 12 x 12 inch glory. I like being able to open a gate fold or flip through the booklet of a CD. I like the whole package, not just part of it. And in terms of quality

Vinyl > CD >> MP3's.

5) I hate iPods for the simple things that annoy me. Like when it turns back on just because I plug my headphones into it, the gyroscope doesn't work properly, shake to shuffle (you can turn it off) is just impracticle and pointless. Annoying clicking noise every time I scroll through a menu or use any of the buttons on the iPod, no radio, and the iPod can only be used with iTunes and sometimes SharePod (if you are luckly). You can't remove the battery which is just a **** move by Apple to get you to buy another iPod instead of buying a cheap battery.

I could go on but I don't feel like it.

You also forgot that it wipes out your entire playlist when you try to upload new songs. Happens to me every single time! :x
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#34 jensen_slipknot
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I hate iTunes because

1) It mistakes my albums for other albums (Guns N' Roses: Greatest Hits IS NOT MICHAEL ****ING JACKSON)

2) It seperates my artist because one song was composed with someone else or buy someone else. i.e. with A Kind of Magic by Queen it tells me that Queen and Queen & Michael Kamen are two different artists and seperates the tracks from the album.

3) I have to upload all my cover art manually

4) It promotes digital distrobution of music, the worst sound, least physical form of music there is. Call me jaded but I like opening CDs and Vinyls, I like seeing the cover art (Vinyl) in all its 12 x 12 inch glory. I like being able to open a gate fold or flip through the booklet of a CD. I like the whole package, not just part of it. And in terms of quality

Vinyl > CD >> MP3's.

5) I hate iPods for the simple things that annoy me. Like when it turns back on just because I plug my headphones into it, the gyroscope doesn't work properly, shake to shuffle (you can turn it off) is just impracticle and pointless. Annoying clicking noise every time I scroll through a menu or use any of the buttons on the iPod, no radio, and the iPod can only be used with iTunes and sometimes SharePod (if you are luckly). You can't remove the battery which is just a **** move by Apple to get you to buy another iPod instead of buying a cheap battery.

I could go on but I don't feel like it.

DarkGamer007
1. Never has happened to me... 2. " 3. Advanced>get album artwork 4. I also love CDs but it doesnt matter you can import them 5. True...
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#35 nimatoad2000
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[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Why does iTunes get so much hate? Its by far the best media player, for music, out there today.

because it is not, mediamonkey and foobar 2000 are way better than it. both can play FLAC. i personally like mediamonkey over foobar , mediamonkey orgianizes your files better than itunes, takes up less memory, has better tag options, has a great file renaming scheme, can auto tag tiles from the internet using freedb ( art included) its way faster loading, and dosnt lag even with my 16 thowsand files, itunes is horrible on pc, back when i had even 6k songs itd lag when scrolling. this is on a Quad core 2.5 ghz with 4 gigs of ram, mediamonkey is perfect. OH DID I MENTION YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR IPOD WITH IT? FASTER AND WITH MORE OPTIONS. just because itunes is the most popular dosn't mean its the best, most things that are the most popular are not the best. how bout trying the other players before making a blind statement like that.

Blind statement? Hardly. I've used dozen's of other players, and out of them all i would take iTunes all day long.

ok if you have tried them all, please tell me makes itunes, in your opinion, better than mediamonkey, foobar 2000 , and winamp, write up a statement for why it is better than each program individually, and what is wrong with those programs, what features they dont have that itunes does. im awaiting your reply
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#36 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"]For those of you who dont like iTunes, in explanation would make sense. jensen_slipknot

It's incredibley slow on Windows and plays what plays what? Two formats?

If your not an audiophile the formats dont matter, sounds great to me.

I'm not an audiophile but I'd like my music to be in a format that actually works with something outside of iTunes. As for sounding great, I'm pretty sure music purchased through iTunes is 128 kbps, which is terrible.

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#37 Samwel_X
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If your not an audiophile the formats dont matter, sounds great to me. jensen_slipknot

Apple Lossless isn't such a bad format. Both Ghosts I-IV and The Slip came out on it, and both sound as good as the FLAC versions I also have. The two are similar enough that even an audiophile shouldn't be too bothered. The only problem is, very few things appear on Lossless. But really, no audiophile cares because HD audio is where it is at, and if you have the speakers for it, you'd be listening to your blu-ray album releases on them...

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#38 jensen_slipknot
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[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

It's incredibley slow on Windows and plays what plays what? Two formats?

Dark_Knight6

If your not an audiophile the formats dont matter, sounds great to me.

I'm not an audiophile but I'd like my music to be in a format that actually works with something outside of iTunes. As for sounding great, I'm pretty sure music purchased through iTunes is 128 kbps, which is terrible.

I import CDs... dunno if thats any better
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#39 nimatoad2000
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

It's incredibley slow on Windows and plays what plays what? Two formats?

If your not an audiophile the formats dont matter, sounds great to me.

I'm not an audiophile but I'd like my music to be in a format that actually works with something outside of iTunes. As for sounding great, I'm pretty sure music purchased through iTunes is 128 kbps, which is terrible.

its 128 AAC which is a bit bttr than 128 MP3, now its 256 AAC for new stuff, i think its called itunes plus, which is overall pretty good, its not as good as V0 MP3, but close, and honestly itd probly be hard to tell a difference without really listening hard and comparing two versions of a song.
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#40 Samwel_X
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I'm not an audiophile but I'd like my music to be in a format that actually works with something outside of iTunes. As for sounding great, I'm pretty sure music purchased through iTunes is 128 kbps, which is terrible.

Dark_Knight6

I would never purchase music through itunes unless I absolutely had to. Itunes is bad on the basis that it is anti-CD. As I said in a thread yesterday, a file on a computer is not the album experience, that physical package is most important. Hence why you and I would get the Nine Inch Nails download, and then when the physical release comes along get that too.

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#41 Dark_Knight6
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I import CDs... dunno if thats any betterjensen_slipknot

You import them through iTunes? Probably not.

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#42 jensen_slipknot
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[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"]I import CDs... dunno if thats any betterDark_Knight6

You import them through iTunes? Probably not.

Well I use an iPod so no choice...
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#43 nimatoad2000
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"] If your not an audiophile the formats dont matter, sounds great to me. jensen_slipknot

I'm not an audiophile but I'd like my music to be in a format that actually works with something outside of iTunes. As for sounding great, I'm pretty sure music purchased through iTunes is 128 kbps, which is terrible.

I import CDs... dunno if thats any better[/QUOTE

] depends on what settings you have itunes set to for when you import, its automaticly set to 128 AAC which is garbage, go into import settings and change it to 320 mp3 or highest V0 Mp3..

or if your serious about your music.. get the program exact audio copy, get the LAME MP3 CODEC, look up exact audio copy optimization on google, then rip your stuff to V0 MP3 with perfect settings . its worth it.

i had my stuff 320kbps mp3 ripped with itunes, then i discovered EAC when i joined what, i reripped all my cd's with EAC

EDIT: to sum up.. itunes' mp3 / aac encoder are not really that good, another reason why itunes is bad. if EAC is too hard to use btw ( its very advanced and intimidating for anyone that isnt extremely comfortable with advanced programs and music options) you can get foobar 2000 which has LAME built into it, put a CD in there, import it to FLAC and then convert that FLAC to V0 Lame MP3. its not as good as EAC cuz of the lack of options, but its as best as you can get without it.

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#44 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"]For those of you who dont like iTunes, in explanation would make sense. jensen_slipknot

It's incredibley slow on Windows and plays what plays what? Two formats?

If your not an audiophile the formats dont matter, sounds great to me.

Because you are a casual, we are not.
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#45 Samwel_X
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Well I use an iPod so no choice... jensen_slipknot

If you use ipod headphones it won't matter, the quality of those suck so bad you could have HD audio files and it would be a tinny mess.

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#46 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"]I import CDs... dunno if thats any betterjensen_slipknot

You import them through iTunes? Probably not.

Well I use an iPod so no choice...

You could use another program to rip it (because iTunes takes far too long doing that, too) and then import it to iTunes.

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#47 Oakfront
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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] because it is not, mediamonkey and foobar 2000 are way better than it. both can play FLAC. i personally like mediamonkey over foobar , mediamonkey orgianizes your files better than itunes, takes up less memory, has better tag options, has a great file renaming scheme, can auto tag tiles from the internet using freedb ( art included) its way faster loading, and dosnt lag even with my 16 thowsand files, itunes is horrible on pc, back when i had even 6k songs itd lag when scrolling. this is on a Quad core 2.5 ghz with 4 gigs of ram, mediamonkey is perfect. OH DID I MENTION YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR IPOD WITH IT? FASTER AND WITH MORE OPTIONS. just because itunes is the most popular dosn't mean its the best, most things that are the most popular are not the best. how bout trying the other players before making a blind statement like that.nimatoad2000

Blind statement? Hardly. I've used dozen's of other players, and out of them all i would take iTunes all day long.

ok if you have tried them all, please tell me makes itunes, in your opinion, better than mediamonkey, foobar 2000 , and winamp, write up a statement for why it is better than each program individually, and what is wrong with those programs, what features they dont have that itunes does. im awaiting your reply

I'm not going to sit here and state every single thing i dislike about different programmes as i don't have the time, but why i like iTunes so much is because its good looking, smart, easy to use, good sound quality and everythings well organized. Just on a whole i feel in my opinion its the superior programme.

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#48 jensen_slipknot
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[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"] Well I use an iPod so no choice... Samwel_X

If you use ipod headphones it won't matter, the quality of those suck so bad you could have HD audio files and it would be a tinny mess.

Are there any good headphones(in-ear) for a decent price?
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#49 nimatoad2000
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[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Blind statement? Hardly. I've used dozen's of other players, and out of them all i would take iTunes all day long.

ok if you have tried them all, please tell me makes itunes, in your opinion, better than mediamonkey, foobar 2000 , and winamp, write up a statement for why it is better than each program individually, and what is wrong with those programs, what features they dont have that itunes does. im awaiting your reply

I'm not going to sit here and state every single thing i dislike about different programmes as i don't have the time, but why i like iTunes so much is because its good looking, smart, easy to use, good sound quality and everythings well organized. Just on a whole i feel in my opinion its the superior programme.

sorry but that cop out just convinces me even more that you havn't used anything besides itunes. id say nice try but it wasnt
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#50 jensen_slipknot
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[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="jensen_slipknot"] If your not an audiophile the formats dont matter, sounds great to me. nimatoad2000

I'm not an audiophile but I'd like my music to be in a format that actually works with something outside of iTunes. As for sounding great, I'm pretty sure music purchased through iTunes is 128 kbps, which is terrible.

I import CDs... dunno if thats any better[/QUOTE

] depends on what settings you have itunes set to for when you import, its automaticly set to 128 AAC which is garbage, go into import settings and change it to 320 mp3 or highest V0 Mp3..

or if your serious about your music.. get the program exact audio copy, get the LAME MP3 CODEC, look up exact audio copy optimization on google, then rip your stuff to V0 MP3 with perfect settings . its worth it.

i had my stuff 320kbps mp3 ripped with itunes, then i discovered EAC when i joined what, i reripped all my cd's with EAC

EDIT: to sum up.. itunes' mp3 / aac encoder are not really that good, another reason why itunes is bad. if EAC is too hard to use btw ( its very advanced and intimidating for anyone that isnt extremely comfortable with advanced programs and music options) you can get foobar 2000 which has LAME built into it, put a CD in there, import it to FLAC and then convert that FLAC to V0 Lame MP3. its not as good as EAC cuz of the lack of options, but its as best as you can get without it.

Ok cool, thanks.