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#51 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="duxup"] Not the least bit true.whipassmt

Oh really? Why do I know more about the Stimulus Package than Obama supporters themselves?

Maybe because most Obama supporters pretend that any information that shows that Obama is not doing so well is fake (probably why they are afraid of fox news)

Couldn't of said it better myself. Maybe Obama should make a News Czar, that way he can control what Fox News say's about him than his supporters will love them.
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#52 k_smoove
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*Obligatory Faux News comment*

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#53 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] So WMDs are BS. And don't say Saddam didn't have WMDs, he used Biological weapons against the Kurds and the Iranians. By the way Bush didn't start a war, according to a book about Bush by John Podhoretz the terms the "treaty" at the end of the Gulf War were a cease-fire, which means that technically the war never permanently ended. If Saddam failed to comply with the terms of the cease-fire, the U.S. president could re-engage Iraq. Clinton used these provision to bomb Iraq in the 1990s, Bush used these provisions as well as Congressional authorization (Supported among others by Sens. Kerry and Clinton) to liberate Iraq.

He didn't have them. The augment for the war was that Sadam had WMDs. We found none. It was in the news.

So then, what did he use against the kurds, his ass? Anyway just because we didn't find any doesn't mean he didn't have them, perhaps he just hid them well or maybe sent them to Syria or N. Korea. Do you honestly think the Mid-East would be more stable with Saddam in power?

In general the world is better off without Husseins being in power.

He used weapons THE UNITED STATES gave him.. Big surprise there how bout you read up on some history instead of babbling the typical neo conservative rhetoric.. Either that or quit before you start.
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#54 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]

One is humble, one is arrogant.

whipassmt

:lol: I laughed at the Vatican while reading that

Laughing at the Vatican is a sign of arrogance.

:lol: now why would that be true?

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#55 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Delsage"]What exactly do you make this basis on? What exactly has Fox news got wrong? Or is it because they don't support your views so you make these accusations. Engrish_Major
They post wrong information all the time. No other news source makes me laugh as much as Fox. Their "contributors" often make generalizations about items with which they have little experience or expertise. I'm not saying that the other main US TV networks are much better, but Fox is by far the worst.

Again I ask, what have they got wrong? Care to explain, otherwise your just full of talk. You don't have to like them that's fine. But to say they post false information on no facts or basis is just wrong. Which is why I am complaining about your statement.
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#56 Engrish_Major
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Again I ask, what have they got wrong? Care to explain, otherwise your just full of talk. You don't have to like them that's fine. But to say they post false information on no facts or basis is just wrong. Which is why I am complaining about your statement. Delsage
Dude, a bunch of times. And I don't even watch them that often.
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#57 limpbizkit818
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You people make me laugh with this anti-Fox News stuff :lol:

If they put out an artical that said the Sun will rise tomorrow, half of the people on this site would comment: "lulz Fox News is so biased there is no sun! Duh! I don't even need to read that to know that the sun is fake! Dam Fox pushing their right-wing, pro-sun crap down my throat all day".

I think you guys are foxophobic :o

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#58 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] So WMDs are BS. And don't say Saddam didn't have WMDs, he used Biological weapons against the Kurds and the Iranians. By the way Bush didn't start a war, according to a book about Bush by John Podhoretz the terms the "treaty" at the end of the Gulf War were a cease-fire, which means that technically the war never permanently ended. If Saddam failed to comply with the terms of the cease-fire, the U.S. president could re-engage Iraq. Clinton used these provision to bomb Iraq in the 1990s, Bush used these provisions as well as Congressional authorization (Supported among others by Sens. Kerry and Clinton) to liberate Iraq.

whipassmt

He didn't have them. The augment for the war was that Sadam had WMDs. We found none. It was in the news.

So then, what did he use against the kurds, his ass? Anyway just because we didn't find any doesn't mean he didn't have them, perhaps he just hid them well or maybe sent them to Syria or N. Korea. Do you honestly think the Mid-East would be more stable with Saddam in power?

In general the world is better off without Husseins being in power.

He didn't have them. There were no WMDs found. Do you dispute that fact?
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What I can't stand about the FOX article is how biased it is. Starting an article by telling us that there is a new time zone called Obama Time? That's not journalism. I'm not debating what the article is saying. It doesn't surprise me that Obama's late. What surprises me is that FOX is willing to dress this and report it as though it's relevant news.
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#60 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Delsage"]Again I ask, what have they got wrong? Care to explain, otherwise your just full of talk. You don't have to like them that's fine. But to say they post false information on no facts or basis is just wrong. Which is why I am complaining about your statement. Engrish_Major
Dude, a bunch of times. And I don't even watch them that often.

You don't even watch them that often and you say a bunch of times. I don't think there is any use further in perusing this argument.
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#61 Jacobistheman
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Another difference is that one is African American and one is Caucasian. Just saying. :|Razor-Lazor
Except one is caucasian, the other is half caucasian.
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#62 hamstergeddon
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HOW IS THIS THREAD A HOT TOPIC!??!?? THE OP WAS A HALF-ASSED FOX NEWS STORY!!!!
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#63 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Delsage"]Again I ask, what have they got wrong? Care to explain, otherwise your just full of talk. You don't have to like them that's fine. But to say they post false information on no facts or basis is just wrong. Which is why I am complaining about your statement. Delsage
Dude, a bunch of times. And I don't even watch them that often.

You don't even watch them that often and you say a bunch of times. I don't think there is any use further in perusing this argument.

It is a bunch of times. You can find tons of them here. I'm not going to go and pull all of them out... you can look there if you want to see all the times they have posted blatantly wrong information.

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#64 deactivated-59d151f079814
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So wait how does Obama being late to these meetings and the like show that he is arrogant? If that shows that he is arrogant, what would you call Bush a man who basically called any one who disagreed with him a coward, traitor, etc etc.. When he was given questions during press conferences he smiled made a joke and completely ignored it.. This isn't calling Obama not arrogant, but come on your topic isn't objective what so ever.. To me from what I have seen is Obama is not arrogant because he is actually able to make compromises and have a foriegn diplomatic approach that isn't "America's way or the highway".. Which Bush for his 8 years of office was just that.. If Obama is so arrogant, why hasn't he had shoes thrown at him during meetings? If the man was truly arrogant don't you think the majority of countries out there would hate us still? But now many countries are actually optemistic of Obama.. This is just what I am observing so far.. Hell even people like McCain has said that Obama is doing a good job so far...
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#65 JoeRatz16
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.. If Obama is so arrogant, why hasn't he had shoes thrown at him during meetings? sSubZerOo
He's only been in office a few months, at this point in his presidency Bush didn't have any shoes thrown at him.

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#66 Solid_Snake325
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One difference?
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#67 fiscope
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There are many more differences than that. :lol:

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#68 Razor-Lazor
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*does best solidruss impression* Let's avoid bumping old topics. Thanks.
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#69 verbtex  Moderator
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He must be doing something right if all they have to complain about is his punctuality.

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#70 69ANT69
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Obama is black, Bush isn't :?