One major difference between liberalism and conservatism

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#1 MayorJohnny
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Unbiased people will know this to be true.

The thoughts and ideas of liberalism is based around emotion. Conservatism isn't.

I'll explain...

One reason why many people perceive conservative Republicans to be "cold hearted" and not "compassionate" is because their ideals are NOT based on emotion. It's based on logic and a true understanding of what works and what doesn't. Sure, conservatism can seem stubborn and even strict at times. However, that really isn't the case. It's just that it's a perception of live based around the idea that everyone is equal and that everyone must adapt to an imperfect world to make it better. Liberalism is the opposite in most ways. The emotional perception is what guides these people. Both positive and negative feelings. Many liberals are genuine and have good intentions, yet the consequences of their ideals are often unrealistic because it isn't based on realism. Everyone is created equal, yet not everything is universal. The "outsider" approach is not plausible, you can't force something on the majority for the "good" of a collective. This applies to the group of liberals that encourage socialism. Conservatism is an "insider" approach. Inspiring people based on hope AND logic, appealing to human nature for the desire of not just surviving, but thriving. People will not change unless their hearts change first. So, conservatism works from the bottom up, whereas liberalism often seems to work from the top down.

I believe that there are very genuine liberals that believe in truth. It's just that their emotions get in the way of the larger view. It's funny that liberals often believe in universal unity and large government, yet can't seem to grasp the essense of human nature and the logic of its progression.

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im a conservative and i gotta say that both are based on both things, depending on your emotional outlook the resoning changes making this comepletely wrong
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im a conservative and i gotta say that both are based on both things, depending on your emotional outlook the resoning changes making this comepletely wronginyourface_12

Maybe you don't fully grasp my post.

No, true conservatism isn't based on emotion. It's a neutral idea that we ADAPT to our own emotions.

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#4 mikel222222
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Post seemed pretty biased. Every politian lets emotions get in the way. conservitives aren't robots. Emotions effect every human... sorry to say
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#5 yoshi-lnex
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I would like to cite ignoring global warming, the iraq war and the war on drugs as counter examples.

and everybody has emotions buddy, have you ever stopped to think that you're the one using them over logic?

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i agree with you. things like socialized healthcare, it sounds good at first glance, but the cost and other factors would lead to it's failure in america.
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#7 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]im a conservative and i gotta say that both are based on both things, depending on your emotional outlook the resoning changes making this comepletely wrongMayorJohnny

Maybe you don't fully grasp my post.

No, true conservatism isn't based on emotion. It's a neutral idea that we ADAPT to our own emotions.

Emotion rules people. Only a robot has no emotion.;)

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#8 wemhim
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Yeah, cuz teh dead fetuses! And no, very very very few people live on logic. If I dead, I wouldn't see why I couldn't LOGICALLY eat my OWN dog, by killing them, but I have emotions.
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I would like to cite ignoring global warming, the iraq war and the war on drugs as counter examples.

and everybody has emotions buddy, have you ever stopped to think that you're the one using them over logic?

yoshi-lnex

your post doesnt make any since. I am a conservative and i agree with what he is saying. The reason why conservatives are for the war is to prevent even more life loss.

Just a random fact. Do you know how many people died on 9/11 over 3,000. Do you know how many people have died in iraq over the past few years 4,000. Those numbers are almost the same. That is why we need to prevent terrorism. It may cost the same as one terrorsit attack to prevent multiple ones from happening. I know war is awful. I hate war myself.

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#10 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

I would like to cite ignoring global warming, the iraq war and the war on drugs as counter examples.

and everybody has emotions buddy, have you ever stopped to think that you're the one using them over logic?

awsomnes2tehmax

your post doesnt make any since. I am a conservative and i agree with what he is saying. The reason why conservatives are for the war is to prevent even more life loss.

Just a random fact. Do you know how many people died on 9/11 over 3,000. Do you know how many people have died in iraq over the past few years 4,000. Those numbers are almost the same. That is why we need to prevent terrorism. It may cost the same as one terrorsit attack to prevent multiple ones from happening. I know war is awful. I hate war myself.

Random fact...the war had NOTHING to do with 9/11....:|

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#11 MayorJohnny
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[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]im a conservative and i gotta say that both are based on both things, depending on your emotional outlook the resoning changes making this comepletely wrongLJS9502_basic

Maybe you don't fully grasp my post.

No, true conservatism isn't based on emotion. It's a neutral idea that we ADAPT to our own emotions.

Emotion rules people. Only a robot has no emotion.;)

Exactly. People have a free will, and shouldn't be pressured to accept something for "everyone."

What I'm saying is that emotions rule liberalism most of the time. Whereas true conservatives use discipline and not just pure emotion.

Why do you think that conservatives seem "cold" at times? It's because the laws of FREE WILL and choice should be protected with logic, not just the whims of emotions.

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

I would like to cite ignoring global warming, the iraq war and the war on drugs as counter examples.

and everybody has emotions buddy, have you ever stopped to think that you're the one using them over logic?

awsomnes2tehmax

your post doesnt make any since. I am a conservative and i agree with what he is saying. The reason why conservatives are for the war is to prevent even more life loss.

Just a random fact. Do you know how many people died on 9/11 over 3,000. Do you know how many people have died in iraq over the past few years 4,000. Those numbers are almost the same. That is why we need to prevent terrorism. It may cost the same as one terrorsit attack to prevent multiple ones from happening. I know war is aThe wful. I hate war myself.

iraq was involved with 911 how exactly?
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#13 LJS9502_basic
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Exactly. People have a free will, and shouldn't be pressured to accept something for "everyone."

What I'm saying is that emotions rule liberalism most of the time. Whereas true conservatisms use discipline and not just pure emotion.

Why do you think that conservatives seem "cold" at times? It's because the laws of FREE WILL and choice should be protected with logic, not just the whims of emotions.

MayorJohnny

No. Both sides use emotion. Both sides use logic. Just because you don't agree with an ideology doesn't mean you can dismiss it with assumptions and opinion.

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#14 awsomnes2tehmax
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[QUOTE="awsomnes2tehmax"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

I would like to cite ignoring global warming, the iraq war and the war on drugs as counter examples.

and everybody has emotions buddy, have you ever stopped to think that you're the one using them over logic?

LJS9502_basic

your post doesnt make any since. I am a conservative and i agree with what he is saying. The reason why conservatives are for the war is to prevent even more life loss.

Just a random fact. Do you know how many people died on 9/11 over 3,000. Do you know how many people have died in iraq over the past few years 4,000. Those numbers are almost the same. That is why we need to prevent terrorism. It may cost the same as one terrorsit attack to prevent multiple ones from happening. I know war is awful. I hate war myself.

Random fact...the war had NOTHING to do with 9/11....:|

ok but it had to do with preventing terrorism.

Guess what 9/11 was. An act of terrorism.

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#15 LJS9502_basic
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ok but it had to do with preventing terrorism.

Guess what 9/11 was. An act of terrorism.

awsomnes2tehmax

Terrorists weren't in Iraq.:|

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#16 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]im a conservative and i gotta say that both are based on both things, depending on your emotional outlook the resoning changes making this comepletely wrongMayorJohnny

Maybe you don't fully grasp my post.

No, true conservatism isn't based on emotion. It's a neutral idea that we ADAPT to our own emotions.

Emotion rules people. Only a robot has no emotion.;)

Exactly. People have a free will, and shouldn't be pressured to accept something for "everyone."

What I'm saying is that emotions rule liberalism most of the time. Whereas true conservatives use discipline and not just pure emotion.

Why do you think that conservatives seem "cold" at times? It's because the laws of FREE WILL and choice should be protected with logic, not just the whims of emotions.

Maybe it's the other way around....with emotion and all....
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#17 MayorJohnny
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[QUOTE="awsomnes2tehmax"]

ok but it had to do with preventing terrorism.

Guess what 9/11 was. An act of terrorism.

LJS9502_basic

Terrorists weren't in Iraq.:|

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