OT Election 2016: Why The Democratic Primary Is About To Get Racial. (Page 3)

Presidential Primaries continue tomorrow with the New Hampshire primary.

According to Nate Silver's 538 website this is how the races are shaping up:

New Hampshire has been feeling the Bern with Sanders holding a commanding lead over his rival and contest favorite Hillary Rodham Clinton. Victory in New Hampshire is a forgone conclusion and Hillary is just fighting to close the margin of loss. Right after NH will be the lowest point in the campaign so far for HRC: Bernie will win by a comfortable margin, possibly by double digits, he will have momentum and will get to raise money out of the win. The news coverage will be intense with "Is this 08' all over again?" and "Is Hillaryland panicking?" themes. The next context after NH is 11 days away, that's a long time. The Establishment will only become more desperate, the attack on Sanders by Clinton surrogates will only become stronger.

On the Republican side Texas' Senator Ted Cruz is coming out of a win on the Iowa Caucuses but you wouldn't know it by how Marco Rubio has been covered in the press after a strong 3rd place finish in Iowa. The so called "Marcomentum" may not last after last night's bad debate exchange with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. All 3 governors are fighting for their (presidential) lives in NH, they need a strong showing (meaning a 4th place finish) to resist calls from The Establishment to drop out and endorse one of the remaining candidates (most likely Rubio). I think after NH we'll see at least one of the governors drop out (Christie/Kasich/Bush) plus Carly Fiorina's run is about to end too. Professional bullshitter Donald Trump has a comfortable lead in NH and is expected to win.

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'Murican democracy is in session OT. So who you got in New Hampshire? Hillary "Oh My God I'm Losing Again" Clinton or Socialist Bernie? Did Christie stopped the Marcomentum or will Rubio finish a strong 2nd? Can Cruz the Weasel pickup Rand Paul's "libertarian" constituency in moderate NH or is any resistance futile against The Greatest Show on Earth Donald Trump?

This will be the Sanders and Trump show. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll get the nomination, but they'll win NH.

Trump and Sanders will win.

They screwed my last time, but I will stand by the polls and say the Donald will win. Bernie will win this one as well.

If Rubio, Cruz, or Hillary make it up top... I'm calling it rigged.

If I go by the polls, I say Trump and Sanders.

Trump and Sanders win and America continues to lose.

Hillary will probably win... Even if she doesn't.

Sanders will take this one, I can feel the Bern. If Hillary wins however, we will know for sure it was rigged.

Would love to see Kasich win a surprise victory here....he's the only Republican that I would consider in a general election. But I think it's going to be Trump and Sanders here.

Trump is gonna win unless if Rubio donor Microsoft counts the votes again for Rubio

I think Sanders wins his side and either Rubio or one of the governors (probably Kasich) finishes a strong 2nd and the media will run with it giving the shaft to Trump (as much as that is humanly possible) just like they did to Cruz coming out of Iowa.

I think Hillary and Rubio got this. I still think Jeb Bush is republicans pick though. Kasich is the most sane, so hell be the next to drop out. Which is kinda sad, cause hes actually a good speaker. Hillary whooped up on Bernie in their last debate, i think that will give her the edge. Rubio got ganged up on and handled it pretty well, i think thats enough to get him the win. Ol Teddy Bear Cruz in second, Trump in third, Kasich 4th, and Carson i think will fall in the votes. He looked like a man who had lost the fight in the last debate, i expect him to through in the towel, campaign derailed.

Oh oh, it is starting...

This is beautiful.

@Master_Live: O she ready, her team always ready to change it up. Since her and Bernie are getting along now, its time for her team to start attacking the republicans.

I hope Bernie Sanders wins by a lot but the thing that I most wish for is for Cruz to get 0 votes, greasy, creepy, evil nut job that he is.

Prediction wise: Sanders and Trump. Rubio made too much of a fool out of himself in that last debate.

@mesome713: Don't know what you are talking about, they aren't getting along and she already tried to use the "attack the Republicans, ignore Bernie" strategy and it failed. She won't be getting along with Bernie, or focusing at much on Republicans; it is time to see some actual fighting on the Democratic Primary.

#shotsfired

In the debate they were, they even joked, we might fight and disagree a little, but its nothing like the republicans do. Which is true, the stuff they fight over are not really even fights. Hillary was praising Bernie and he was praising her during the debate. They were basically kissing each other the other night.

@mesome713: Remember the 2008 primary? Hillary can get just as dirty as the rest of them, and if she feels like Bernie is actually becoming a threat then she will.

@mattbbpl: Yeah, i agree she can sling mud, but i dont think she really has too this time. I could be wrong though, but i dont see Bernie as a President, i see him as a very important team member. Like a Treasury of the United States type team member. I think voters might feel this way also. He could also come in handy during the deate as a Vice President. Hillary needs a good debater, Biden's are a rare thing in todays world. We need an emotional debater i think.

Here's my prediction. Rubio's momentum will stall in NH because of his recent gaffes. Rubio may squeeze out a second place finish in NH, but it won't be by much. The story of the night will be how close the fight for second place was and how rubio probably scraped by or screwed up. Depending on how well he does in NH he may or may not need to reexamine his campaign.

@mesome713

That would be really weird if Jeb Bush became the republicans eventual presidential nominee. That probably may be a bit more possible if Rubio continues to screw up.

Only one prediction worth having!

Who won?

Result will start coming in around 11:00pm EST.

That means I have to wait until tomorrow... That's late night/early morning for me.

Looks like some info about the NH primary is starting to leak out like this graphic from ABCNews.What this graphic is showing may hint at the results that eventually get released once the voting is finished and the votes are counted.

I gotta say, I love this stuff, love it.

Now watching CNN and alternatively, MSNBC. Sadly I don't get Fox News (the more options, the better).

It's fun to watch to see which candidate is going to end up second, third and etc on the republican side for the NH primary.It looks like Rubio's support collapsed a bit recently.We will figure out if this is true later tonight.

You do know you are on something called the internet right? anyways Google is your friend ;)

As to the election, Trump and Sanders looks to have this in the bag. Kinda crazy that someone as socialist as Sanders seems more and more like the next democratic presidential candidate.

Hopefully tho America will not vote crazy old man Bernie into the white house.

Early calling from CNN, Fox and MSNBC

Trump wins on Rep side

Sanders wins on dem side

Yeah I know, but it isn't HD :P

And from this point on, the race gets interesting. Cruz and Rubio trailing Kasich and Bush? If that holds, there might be 5 people who feel compelled to stay in the Republican race. Perhaps 6 if Christie feels like staying in just to pester Rubio some more :-P

@Jacanuk: You have been force fed wrong information and propaganda concerning socialism. Fed to you by the rich and powerful who are scared to death of it. Socialism is based on the idea that we should use the vast resources of society to meet people’s needs. What about that is so offensive? No one wants to take away your middle class lifestyle. They just want to stop the insane greed at the top and feed and shelter the homeless and give the average worker a decent income. I don't care what those who claimed to be socialists in the past have done, this is what it actually means.

PBS entrance poll.

Bernie will win the vote. Clinton will win New Hampshire.

@magicalclick: It's hard to hike it from $10 to $15 when it's well below $10 now (which itself is below the minimum wage nearly 50 years ago after adjusting for inflation).

Rubio's three state strategy got thrown out of the window tonight. I seriously don;t know if he last past super tuesday at this point. He may drop out before then. Kaisch and Bush may stay for a bit or a lot longer. I'm not sure if Christie will stay in the race right now.

@super600: Think so? I bet he's still in come Super Tuesday. The establishment needs a candidate, and I think he's more likely to be sold to voters than Bush or Kasich. It will be interesting to follow the money in the lead-up to SC.

In the 1950's minimum wage was an inflation adjusted $15. How far we have fallen since then. Anyone but Sanders gets in and I can guarantee we fall further. At least as far as the minimum wage goes. Now the top 1% they are definitely going to love things. Keep the French revolution in mind. That's what eventually happens.

I don't think Rubio is going to do too well in future states. I think this may be the start of his slow and eventual downfall. The guy failed to appeal to people in NH. I don't know how he can appeal to people in other states especially if he keeps on making the same mistakes.It's looking more likely that the republican race will be a mess until the republican convention.

@super600: Here's hoping! :-P

Media smells blood in the water, they want the Democratic primary to become a race so bad. This is going to be a tough 48 to 72 hours for Hillary Clinton and their campaign. Lets see if Bill Clinton loses his cool again.

Networks now projecting John Kasich has secured 2nd place in NH.

Congrats to Sanders, he deserved it. Also congrats to Kasich, nice to see him do so good.

Good follow up for Bernie Sanders to say to the Hillary drones that she won't be their presumptive shoe-in.

Bill Clinton looks so skinny. Maybe he misses Hillary's cooking?

And the electorate let's out a collective, "Who?!"

He's not going to win the Democratic nomination. The rest of the calendar is not favorable to him.