OT rivalries

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Maybe.....maybe not.SeraphimGoddess

[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Maybe.....maybe not.LJS9502_basic

Nah no rival.

I don't really have any. I do get in arguments with hartsick a lot when he posts. Then again hes on my friends list.

warownslife

Frenimies eh? :P

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"] I would say Teenaged as of late. You two always seem to be arguing in popularity related threads. :P As for me... Iunno. Probably. If someone has a problem they can say so now. :xTeenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Not on my part...no. And he's been the same as long as I've seen him here so it's not a new direction.LJS9502_basic

I thought you appreciated honesty.

Besides that, you shouldnt be the one talking about insults since you do the same; you just prefer to not do it by mentioning specific users and in stead you'd rather vaguely accuse select groups of OT users (like in the last thread that I decided to be very honest with you), since that allows you to come off as more civilised and saves you from moderations. To each his own.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Well, its not like the whining was a new direction for me to have a new direction against it...

Teenaged

I thought you appreciated honesty.

Besides that, you shouldnt be the one talking about insults since you do the same; you just prefer to not do it by mentioning specific users and in stead you'd rather vaguely accuse select groups of OT users (like in the last thread that I decided to be very honest with you), since that allows you to come off as more civilised and saves you from moderations. To each his own.

[QUOTE="Not-Jaydough"][QUOTE="jaydough"]

Completely unaware of any such rivalries.

GHlegend77

I lol'd

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Any reason you can't avoid ad hominems?LJS9502_basic

I thought you appreciated honesty.

Besides that, you shouldnt be the one talking about insults since you do the same; you just prefer to not do it by mentioning specific users and in stead you'd rather vaguely accuse select groups of OT users (like in the last thread that I decided to be very honest with you), since that allows you to come off as more civilised and saves you from moderations. To each his own.

And I didnt say I considered it an insult. You are misunderstanding. You are the one who talked about ad hominems (and "hurling of insults" before you edited your post), no? Should I ask the same question?

And I have feedback supporting my views about you. What now. Just because some users agree with you doesnt make you any more correct or my posting habits bad.

And I am referring to the technique that is usually appreciated here on OT for some reason even though its no worse than mine, which is more honest and direct.And I didnt say I considered it an insult. You are misunderstanding. You are the one who talked about ad hominems (and "hurling of insults" before you edited your post), no? Should I ask the same question?And I have feedback supporting my views about you. What now. Just because some users agree with you doesnt make you any more correct or my posting habits bad.Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]And I am referring to the technique that is usually appreciated here on OT for some reason even though its no worse than mine, which is more honest and direct.And I didnt say I considered it an insult. You are misunderstanding. You are the one who talked about ad hominems (and "hurling of insults" before you edited your post), no? Should I ask the same question?And I have feedback supporting my views about you. What now. Just because some users agree with you doesnt make you any more correct or my posting habits bad.LJS9502_basic

Well I merely asserted that I don't feel any rivalry towards you...and that you have kept the same styIe posts as long as I've known you. Which was neither an insult nor a complaint though you assumed it both. Honest and direct are merely words to slide an insult in. Could I be honest and direct about my impressions of you? Sure....but why? It serves no purpose really and when the "honesty" and "directness" is negative..it's nothing more than an insult. I know how certain users feel about me...and I know exactly why. Most users, however, don't tell other users how they feel until said individual is banned and so not everyone knows. Some people are quite surprised to see the negative comments about themselves. And I mentioned the feedback so you'd know it was not a personal unsupported opinion. But again....I said nothing remotely insulting by saying you had the same technique since I've known you. If you took it negatively then maybe some self reflection.....

I didnt take it as an insult. You though characterised my... "technique" as ad hominem, no? And I responded that you are the one to talk about insults or ad hominems. But I wasnt referring about this discussion of ours. I even specified what I am referring to in the parentheses. Did you miss the parentheses?

Again, LJS, I thought you appreciated honesty. Time and time again, iirc, I have seen you state that you'd wish users who have something to say about you say it infront of you in stead of behind your back. In your own post right now you speak about people being honest about users only after they are banned. I assume you dont appreciate that, right? That is among the way to speak about someone, but not in their presence. I want to do the opposite and be honest. Whining about several things in OT accomplishes nothing either but I still see it happening.... so, is my technique really the only one that is counter-productive? I think not.

Sure those may be just words to justify insults, but there's nothing different behind vague accusations directed towards the crowd in order to avoid appearing uncivil or disrespectful. An insult is an insult, whether you name the person or you dont and the group of people you are referring to is a somewhat specific one.

If even despite such clarification you still believe that I thought your remark here was an insult then it would be better if you read my posts a second time before responding or ask me for clarification where that is needed.

Again you are misunderstanding.I didnt take it as an insult. You though characterised my... "technique" as ad hominem, no? And I responded that you are the one to talk about insults or ad hominems. But I wasnt referring about this discussion of ours. I even specified what I am referring to in the parentheses. Did you miss the parentheses? Again, LJS, I thought you appreciated honesty. Time and time again, iirc, I have seen you state that you'd wish users who have something to say about you say it infront of you in stead of behind your back. In your own post right now you speak about people being honest about users only after they are banned. I assume you dont appreciate that, right? That is among the way to speak about someone, but not in their presence. I want to do the opposite and be honest. Sure those may be just words to justify insults, but there's nothing different behind vague accusations directed towards the crowd in order to avoid appearing uncivil or respectful. An insult is an insult. Whether you name the person or you dont and the group of people you are referring to is a somewhat specific one. If even despite such clarification you still believe that I thought your remark here was an insult then it would be better if you read my posts a second time before responding or ask me for clarification where that is needed. Teenaged

No I categorized your technique as being the same as long as I've known you. It was neither a positive nor negative statement but an answer to the comment about how "lately" we've been arguing. You assume I consider your so called honesty as the truth or even as important to me. And I find your hiding behind those words to issue an insult to not have the best intentions. I already know how you feel about me. But that's not going to change a thing in my life. And again...while you did insult me....my comment was neutral. I gave no indication as to how I defined your technique.LJS9502_basic

Any reason you can't avoid ad hominems?LJS9502_basic

Is this the "neither positive nor negative statement"?

But I dont care if you find my honesty as truthful. Its expectable that not all criticism will be accepted by the person criticised.

And I find you hiding behind vague accusations and poiting fingers towards the general crowd as very dishonest. See, thats why I said "to each his own" a couple of posts ago.

You assume I intend to change anything in your life. I am just speaking my mind.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No I categorized your technique as being the same as long as I've known you. It was neither a positive nor negative statement but an answer to the comment about how "lately" we've been arguing. You assume I consider your so called honesty as the truth or even as important to me. And I find your hiding behind those words to issue an insult to not have the best intentions. I already know how you feel about me. But that's not going to change a thing in my life. And again...while you did insult me....my comment was neutral. I gave no indication as to how I defined your technique.Teenaged

Any reason you can't avoid ad hominems?LJS9502_basic

Is this the "neither positive nor negative statement"?

But I dont care if you find my honesty as truthful. Its expectable that not all criticism will be accepted by the person criticised.

And I find you hiding behind vague accusations and poiting fingers towards the general crowd as very dishonest. See, thats why I said "to each his own" a couple of posts ago.

You assume I intend to change anything in your life. I am just speaking my mind.

Oh come now Teenaged....I asked that question after you responded to me with an insult. LJS9502_basic

Besides saying that I cant avoid ad hominems must be based on your observations of my general posting styIe. If not how can you even asses what I can and what I can not avoid, if its not a constant behavior of mine (according to you)?

And saying that someone is whining is an insult? Perhaps the advise you gave me about self-reflection is one you should take.

But isnt that "insult" of mine part of my "technique"?Besides saying that I cant avoid ad hominems must be based on your observations of my general posting styIe. If not how can you even asses what I can and what I can not avoid, if its not a constant behavior of mine (according to you)?And saying that someone is whining is an insult? Perhaps the advise you gave me about self-reflection is one you should takeTeenaged

I'm not going down the road of debating users...sorry. If you want and further elucidation as to what I personally think then it would have to be elsewhere. Not here. And again....you are making the assumptions as to what the conclusions would be. If you feel they would be negative then maybe self reflection as to why you've formed that conclusion. Happy posting....LJS9502_basic

I make no assumptions. Your posts are clear no matter how you try to deflect and deny what they say. I can understand in a minimum level not wanting to be direct and honest when it comes to negative opinion about users but actually being dishonest by denying the meaning of your own posts? No sorry, cant do that.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not going down the road of debating users...sorry. If you want and further elucidation as to what I personally think then it would have to be elsewhere. Not here. And again....you are making the assumptions as to what the conclusions would be. If you feel they would be negative then maybe self reflection as to why you've formed that conclusion. Happy posting....Teenaged

I make no assumptions. Your posts are clear no matter how you try to deflect and deny what they say. I can understand in a minimum level not wanting to be direct and honest when it comes to negative opinion about users but actually being dishonest by denying the meaning of your own posts. No sorry, cant do that.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not going down the road of debating users...sorry. If you want and further elucidation as to what I personally think then it would have to be elsewhere. Not here. And again....you are making the assumptions as to what the conclusions would be. If you feel they would be negative then maybe self reflection as to why you've formed that conclusion. Happy posting....LJS9502_basic

I make no assumptions. Your posts are clear no matter how you try to deflect and deny what they say. I can understand in a minimum level not wanting to be direct and honest when it comes to negative opinion about users but actually being dishonest by denying the meaning of your own posts. No sorry, cant do that.

Yes you have when you comment on me resorting to ad hominems and my supposed need for self-reflection.

The accusation of discussing the person in stead of the subject is irrelevant here considering the very topic of the thread so save it.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]You have done so far with me, and I guess now that a retort isnt easy you choose to stop. I dont mind.

I make no assumptions. Your posts are clear no matter how you try to deflect and deny what they say. I can understand in a minimum level not wanting to be direct and honest when it comes to negative opinion about users but actually being dishonest by denying the meaning of your own posts. No sorry, cant do that.

Teenaged

Yes you have when you comment on me resorting to ad hominems and my supposed need for self-reflection.

The accusation of discussing the person in stead of the subject is irrelevant here considering the very topic of the thread so save it.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No I haven't done so. I've kept my opinions about you to myself. Mentioning that you have not suddenly changed your posting styIe is nothing but an observation. You are aware users all have their own styIe and few, if any, change? As for the ad hominem comment.....it's not the first time you've discussed myself instead of a subject. There again.....it's an observation.LJS9502_basic

Yes you have when you comment on me resorting to ad hominems and my supposed need for self-reflection.

The accusation of discussing the person in stead of the subject is irrelevant here considering the very topic of the thread so save it.

When you make observations about a user you are discussing the user. If you deny this then I dont know what to say.

I have considered why I assumed that and have demonstarted why I am right in my assumption. Constant deflection wont work, sorry.

The republicans

nah just kidding. :P

Ninja-hippo considers me a rival because my dead body keeps blocking his shots in halo reach MP.

Ninja-hippo considers me a rival because my dead body keeps blocking his shots in halo reach MP.

sonicare

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Yes you have when you comment on me resorting to ad hominems and my supposed need for self-reflection.

The accusation of discussing the person in stead of the subject is irrelevant here considering the very topic of the thread so save it.

Teenaged

When you make observations about a user you are discussing the user. If you deny this then I dont know what to say.

I have considered why I assumed that and have demonstarted why I am right in my assumption. Constant deflection wont work, sorry.

There are certain users who will argue with you regardless of what you say, and even if you respond to try and settle that argument, they will continue to argue with you forever and ever until the thread is hopelessly de-railed.Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. Sorry wrong. Seeing a repeated pattern of behavior is observation. And the self reflection comment is because you have assumed the negativeness of the answer. So should you not consider why you assumed that? LJS9502_basic

When you make observations about a user you are discussing the user. If you deny this then I dont know what to say.

I have considered why I assumed that and have demonstarted why I am right in my assumption. Constant deflection wont work, sorry.

You were just referring to fairies in the land of magic when you used the words "Teenaged" or "you"/"your" when talking to me....

:roll:

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]There are certain users who will argue with you regardless of what you say, and even if you respond to try and settle that argument, they will continue to argue with you forever and ever until the thread is hopelessly de-railed.Jandurin

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]It still doesnt change the fact it is talking about the user.

When you make observations about a user you are discussing the user. If you deny this then I dont know what to say.

I have considered why I assumed that and have demonstarted why I am right in my assumption. Constant deflection wont work, sorry.

Teenaged

You were just referring to fairies in the land of magic when you used the words "Teenaged" or "you"/"your" when talking to me....

:roll:

Oh obviously I addressed the comments to you since we're having a discussion...and FYI...you/your are both specific and general in the English language.LJS9502_basic

Thats the most obvious deflection (for now, who knows whats to come).

Is "Teenaged" also general in the English language? :o

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh obviously I addressed the comments to you since we're having a discussion,...and FYI...you/your are both specific and general in the English language.Teenaged

Thats the most obvious deflection (for now, who knows whats to come).

Is "Teenaged" also general in the English language? :o

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh obviously I addressed the comments to you since we're having a discussion,...and FYI...you/your are both specific and general in the English language.LJS9502_basic

Thats the most obvious deflection (for now, who knows whats to come).

Is "Teenaged" also general in the English language? :o

The problem is that this is not a case where the word "teenaged" refers to anyone other than me.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Oh please spare me the supposed lesson on English language...

Thats the most obvious deflection (for now, who knows whats to come).

Is "Teenaged" also general in the English language? :o

Teenaged

The problem is that this is not a case where the word "teenaged" refers to anyone other than me.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]There are certain users who will argue with you regardless of what you say, and even if you respond to try and settle that argument, they will continue to argue with you forever and ever until the thread is hopelessly de-railed.Ninja-Hippo

My rival is Zyrokin, because we argue irl. But online, it is Atmanix's wife. We are in quite the game of cat and mouse.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Read the first sentence....and for the record teenaged can actually be general in the English language since it's a word.:|LJS9502_basic

The problem is that this is not a case where the word "teenaged" refers to anyone other than me.

Unless you capitalise words randomly. :lol:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]The first sentence conveniently doesnt mention that the topic was both me and you. Anyone reading our discussion can realise that.

The problem is that this is not a case where the word "teenaged" refers to anyone other than me.

Teenaged

Unless you capitalise words randomly. :lol:

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I already said it did. However, it's true that teenaged is also a general term in the English language...which is what you asked..is it not?LJS9502_basic

Unless you capitalise words randomly. :lol:

You then proceeded to refer to the uncapitalised word which is not what I was talking about. :)

Am I really the one not reading the other person's posts?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Not when its capitalised in the middle of a sentence which is how I wrote it... :roll:

Unless you capitalise words randomly. :lol:

Teenaged

You then proceeded to refer to the uncapitalised word which is not what I was talking about. :)

Am I really the one not reading the other person's posts?

I always thought we would develop into fiesty rivals by the way you used to argue with every statement I made. But then you went on medication and became placated, which I have stated before. We could have been something special.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Not when its capitalised in the middle of a sentence which is how I wrote it... :roll:

Unless you capitalise words randomly. :lol:

Teenaged

You then proceeded to refer to the uncapitalised word which is not what I was talking about. :)

Am I really the one not reading the other person's posts?

No that wasn't even close to what I said. And I'd rather not go round and round over the same posts. The words are there.....LJS9502_basic

So you didnt refer to the uncapitalised word?

However, it's true that teenaged is also a general term in the English language...which is what you asked..is it not?LJS9502_basic

Alrighty then.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You don't seem to be reading my posts.....since that's now what I said.:)UltimoIce

You then proceeded to refer to the uncapitalised word which is not what I was talking about. :)

Am I really the one not reading the other person's posts?

I always thought we would develop into fiesty rivals by the way you used to argue with every statement I made. But then you went on medication and became placated, which I have stated before. We could have been something special.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No that wasn't even close to what I said. And I'd rather not go round and round over the same posts. The words are there.....Teenaged

So you didnt refer to the uncapitalised word?

However, it's true that teenaged is also a general term in the English language...which is what you asked..is it not?LJS9502_basic

Alrighty then.

:lol: You seem to have arrived at the wrong inference from the two posts. LJS9502_basic