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#1 hedden93
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I think he talented but wayyyyyy overrated IMO. No way in hell is he the best of all time. Plus hes gotten kinda annoying to me. All he did on Recovery was **** and moan. I heard enough about his addiction and proof dieing on Relapse. I kinda fell like he sold out too. Working with Lil Wayne, Rihanna, Pink, and Nicki Minaj? To be honest, Recovery just felt kinda fake to me. The Eminem Show, Slim Shady LP, and Marshall Mathers LP were really good though.

What are your thoughts on Eminem?

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#2 -Water-Wings-
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I don't like rap in the first place, but I am so sick of him cause my sister listens to him all the time. My friends listen to him too and praise him. I just don't think hes that good imo.

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#3 megaspiderweb09
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He's still my favourite rapper even tho he has moved with the times and is working with contemporary artist.I dont like lil wayne but i dont mind him,pink was deff a good addition to that album and Rihana too(the style of the music).In conclusion i think its fair to say the old eminem is gone but the new one is also as good

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#4 LJS9502_basic
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Hit or miss. Like some of his music....dislike others.
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#5 v13_KiiLtz
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Most lyrically gifted person of his generation.
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#6 Rhazakna
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He has some clever lyrics, but rap is a boring genre overall, and he doesn't do much to remedy that.
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#7 GreySeal9
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There's no doubt that Eminem is a masterful wordsmith and has a ferocious delivery, but I agree, he's not the best. An I don't think his music lives up to his rhyming skills. I think Jay Z and Andre 3000 and Tupac all had the great music to back up their great rapping skills and I think Eminem, with a few exceptions, doesn't have that. I'd even say that Kanye West, in his prime, though far inferior to Eminem as an MC, makes far superior music.

And I also think that Eminem is beholden to his schtik and all the "I'm gonna kill my wife" stuff is silly. I think he even calls his penis Haley (his daughter's name). Weird.

And I think think there's some underlying racism in people who dismiss all other rappers except for Eminem. I mean, thinking Eminem is the best is a valid opinion, but to pretend that he's the only rapper with valuable contributions is just ridiculous.

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#8 Luxen90
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I think Eminem is pretty good, and he has a lot of quality music. I just don't really listen to him that often and I put wouldn't put him in my top 20 if I had to name them.
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#9 Harisemo
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one of the greatest if not THE greatest rapper ever

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#10 ace-of-spades93
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Don't like him at all. Just a person shouting at a microphone about how hard his life has been. Anybody could do it "/
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#11 mitu123
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I like him, his earlier songs were great to me, but his newest, eh, it's ok to bad I think.

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#12 silverwind23
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a great rapper, but not the best.
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#13 rragnaar
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I like deep voices in my rap, he is way too high pitched and all around obnoxious for me.
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#14 hiphops_savior
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One of the best rappers out there in terms of technical abilities, nobody can flow or cram multis like Eminem. As an artist, Kanye, Big Boi, and Andre 3000 has him all beat, but as a rapper, there's no one who could rap better than Eminem.
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#15 hedden93
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I like deep voices in my rap, he is way too high pitched and all around obnoxious for me.rragnaar
You a Celph Titled fan?

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#16 hedden93
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One of the best rappers out there in terms of technical abilities, nobody can flow or cram multis like Eminem. As an artist, Kanye, Big Boi, and Andre 3000 has him all beat, but as a rapper, there's no one who could rap better than Eminem.hiphops_savior
eh I think Rugged Man's flow is the best.

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#17 wstfld
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I love his first three albums and Recovery is growing on me. He's a top ten hip-hop artist that sort of occupies his own unique space in hip-hop. I'm expecting something really amazing for his next album.
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#18 GreySeal9
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One of the best rappers out there in terms of technical abilities, nobody can flow or cram multis like Eminem. As an artist, Kanye, Big Boi, and Andre 3000 has him all beat, but as a rapper, there's no one who could rap better than Eminem.hiphops_savior

I'd say that Andre 3000 can easily rap better than Eminem. More variety in his cadence, much more subtle use of words, much more willing to experiment with different rhyme patterns and what not.

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#19 xTheExploited
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Awful, awful rapper. He sounds exactly the same in every song, his songs are pretty awful anyways and his lyrics are pretty mediocre nowadays. He had much more wit when he was younger, now all he seems to do is whine.
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#20 kidsmelly
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He is almost as good as souljah boy. Just needs more practice.

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#21 Wilfred_Owen
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Whats up with the thing he does with his hands?
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#22 rragnaar
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[QUOTE="rragnaar"]I like deep voices in my rap, he is way too high pitched and all around obnoxious for me.hedden93

You a Celph Titled fan?

I haven't heard him. Rap isn't the main genre I listen to, so I'm only really aware of a handful of rappers that I like, MF Doom and all his 'alts', Peanut Butter Wolf, Quasimoto/Madlib, Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, Wu Tang, Dr. Dre, and Old Dirty Bastard. I also like the Beastie Boys even though they are as high pitched as Eminem.
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#23 v13_KiiLtz
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Whats up with the thing he does with his hands?Wilfred_Owen
Watchu' talkin bout?
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#24 hedden93
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[QUOTE="hedden93"]

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]I like deep voices in my rap, he is way too high pitched and all around obnoxious for me.rragnaar

You a Celph Titled fan?

I haven't heard him. Rap isn't the main genre I listen to, so I'm only really aware of a handful of rappers that I like, MF Doom and all his 'alts', Peanut Butter Wolf, Quasimoto/Madlib, Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, Wu Tang, Dr. Dre, and Old Dirty Bastard. I also like the Beastie Boys even though they are as high pitched as Eminem.

I highly suggest you check him out. Hes got a deep powerful voice. I suggest you also check out Vinnie Paz (from JMT)

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#25 rragnaar
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[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="hedden93"]You a Celph Titled fan?

hedden93

I haven't heard him. Rap isn't the main genre I listen to, so I'm only really aware of a handful of rappers that I like, MF Doom and all his 'alts', Peanut Butter Wolf, Quasimoto/Madlib, Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, Wu Tang, Dr. Dre, and Old Dirty Bastard. I also like the Beastie Boys even though they are as high pitched as Eminem.

I highly suggest you check him out. Hes got a deep powerful voice. I suggest you also check out Vinnie Paz (from JMT)

I will when I get home. I've got no speakers on my work computer.
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#26 DaJuicyMan
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[QUOTE="hedden93"]

I think he talented but wayyyyyy overrated IMO. No way in hell is he the best of all time. Plus hes gotten kinda annoying to me. All he did on Recovery was **** and moan. I heard enough about his addiction and proof dieing on Relapse. I kinda fell like he sold out too. Working with Lil Wayne, Rihanna, Pink, and Nicki Minaj? To be honest, Recovery just felt kinda fake to me. The Eminem Show, Slim Shady LP, and Marshall Mathers LP were really good though.

What are your thoughts on Eminem?

I agree with almost everything you said. If he took those people off of Recovery, it would have been my favorite Eminem album. Seriously. Every song he does by himself on that album is great, but yeah he sold out kinda. Also, while I do think he's one of the best ever, that gets lost because of his overexposure. Because he's white, he's overexposed. Sorry it's true. I'm not aying it's a bad thing, i'm just saying. He's great but his overexposure ruins him. Everyone seems to listen to him (see water-wings- comment about their SISTER listening to him.) It's just that I remember when Eminem wasn't overexposed and was still fresh to your ears...
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#27 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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I don't like his music..or him..

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#28 xTheExploited
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I don't like his music..or him..

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:o When did you come back?
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#29 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I don't like his music..or him..

xTheExploited
:o When did you come back?

When the moon became full O_O..
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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I don't like his music..or him..

Xx_Hopeless_xX
:o When did you come back?

When the moon became full O_O..

So about three days after you were banned? :P
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#31 DaBrainz
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After reading that rolling stone article I think he's lucky to be alive.

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#32 T_REX305
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better then most rappers of today.

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#33 The_Gaming_Baby
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Eminem is a whiney little **** who is borderline pop

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#35 QuebecSuperstar
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I don't like rap so I don't like Eminem. His song with Rihanna is driving me crazy. I hate it and it plays at least twice a day where I work. Goddamn commercial radio! :evil:

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#36 Rckstrchik
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He used to have absolutely amazing lyrics. But now he has sold out. Most of the people in this thread are right. All he does is whine and now he's all of a sudden preaching and telling people to come together in his lyrics. He wasn't anything like that 5 years ago. Not to mention his music is barely rap anymore, it's 80% singing.

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#37 Lost-Memory
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I think he talented but wayyyyyy overrated IMO. No way in hell is he the best of all time. Plus hes gotten kinda annoying to me. All he did on Recovery was **** and moan. I heard enough about his addiction and proof dieing on Relapse. I kinda fell like he sold out too. Working with Lil Wayne, Rihanna, Pink, and Nicki Minaj? To be honest, Recovery just felt kinda fake to me. The Eminem Show, Slim Shady LP, and Marshall Mathers LP were really good though.

What are your thoughts on Eminem?

hedden93

I think eminem is really talented. I think the combination of relapse and recovery were really good. Some of the songs on relapse were a bit obscene, but i still enjoyed it. I wouldn't say the best in the world either. Thats generally an opinion people have. He didn't sell out, him working with lil wayne, rihanna, pink and nicki is just an artist doing what he enjoys doing, and sometimes collaborating with other artists can be fun and gives him a chance to take a break from his own stuff and try something else with someone else.

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#38 mrmusicman247
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One of my favorite rappers.
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#39 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="xTheExploited"] :o When did you come back?

When the moon became full O_O..

So about three days after you were banned? :P

You're confusing that with jesus :(... I am highly disappoint..
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="xTheExploited"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] When the moon became full O_O..

So about three days after you were banned? :P

You're confusing that with jesus :(... I am highly disappoint..

Ha. Nice.
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#41 yodaphantom
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Rap...Nah no way would i ever be caught listening to it. It's Metal for me thanks.

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#42 tocklestein2005
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I only "know" a few of his songs...he's ok but I don't really listen to him. For a rapper, he's prettygood, imo.

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#43 Orlando_Magic
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I like Infinite, Slim Shady LP and Marshall Mathers LP... after that it goes downhill. I can tolerate his last two albums in doses but I'm not too big of a fan. Some of the songs were almost cringe worthy :(

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#44 Blacklight2
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He is just bad. I don't have anyway to put it. He's been singing about the same stuff since 1997.
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#45 Chris_Williams
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back in the day i loved his songs, but now their just filled with angst and thats annoying, why am i listening to a guy who's whole album is about how his life is depressing and hard. your freaking rich dawgs

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#46 oneMoreComment
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He is almost as good as souljah boy. Just needs more practice.

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:lol: That was good. As for me I think he is way overrated too. I mean its not just him but its a lot of rappers that a lot of people think are over the top good. They aren't bad but its like their stuff doesn't stand out and who cares if you rap about how bad your childhood is? Its the same sob story told over and over again (how I started out poor in the ghetto but made my way to the top by keeping at it). Everybody and they moms has that same story. And if you rap about killing and beating people you suck as well. Get some real lyrics and not how big yo gat is when you roll down the street with yo 20 inch rims (get real).
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]One of the best rappers out there in terms of technical abilities, nobody can flow or cram multis like Eminem. As an artist, Kanye, Big Boi, and Andre 3000 has him all beat, but as a rapper, there's no one who could rap better than Eminem.GreySeal9

I'd say that Andre 3000 can easily rap better than Eminem. More variety in his cadence, much more subtle use of words, much more willing to experiment with different rhyme patterns and what not.

I have never listened to Andre 3000 before, but how much of Eminems music have you actually listened to?

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#48 sAndroid17
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i like his old stuff

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#49 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]One of the best rappers out there in terms of technical abilities, nobody can flow or cram multis like Eminem. As an artist, Kanye, Big Boi, and Andre 3000 has him all beat, but as a rapper, there's no one who could rap better than Eminem.ubpoker123

I'd say that Andre 3000 can easily rap better than Eminem. More variety in his cadence, much more subtle use of words, much more willing to experiment with different rhyme patterns and what not.

I have never listened to Andre 3000 before, but how much of Eminems music have you actually listened to?

Probably 85% or so.

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#50 dk00111
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There have been quite a few leaked songs recently, with Eminem doing songs with TI, Royce da 5'9" and Dr. Dre. He spits fire in most of em, they're worth a look. :P