[QUOTE="TigerWars"][QUOTE="Grimdalus"] [QUOTE="TigerWars"][QUOTE="Grimdalus"]I can't take accusations that the Government is evil seriously. It reminds me of all those NWO conspiracy theorists. The Government is most likely incompetent and out of touch with people's lives.Grimdalus
Any particular reason you can't take those theories seriously? Politicians have openly admitted their intentions for a New World Order (a number of times), The Bilderberg group, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones are all real things. They clearly only serve their own interests in foriegn affairs (Children are being slaughtered by the thousands in Africa, yet they have no oil so we send no troops.). It's not that hard to believe for me. Then I hear quotes like this that really make me think: " I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." ~ Woodrow Wilson (After creating the Federal Reserve)Â
1) There is no historical proof of it. 2) Logistic. The amount of money and enforcement to run a secret government is so huge, , it wouldn't be a very big secret. Even a government in the Open would have huge logistic problems, let alone a government that can't enforce any laws. 3) Politicians would never voluntarily share power. 4) The moment a foreign party took over, the entire system would collapse. This has happened repeatedly throughout the history of every nation. 5) Nations would not work together. the Soviets/Chinese and the US. If one of these were part of this organization, the other would've known and outed the illuminati immediately to make their case for their enemy being imperialists. 6) There are patriots in the government. The entire idea is flawed because someone from the government would out what was going on behind the scenes as a patriotic person for his nation. 7) If there were any credibility to this, the mass media would attack it immediately. No one can really control the media either, so it would be a massive story immediately. This entire conspiracy is like christmas for news stations if it's true.
1. Yes, there is plenty historical proof of secret socities and men with money controlling the world. I even included a quote from a former US President if you didnt notice.
2. They control the money, they print the money, they are the money. They never run out of money.
    2a. Who the **** would speak out on such a powerful force if they found its existence. They can ridicule and kill your reputation through the media. They can murder you. They can murder your family. They can offer you millions of dollars to stay quiet. You have too much faith in the honor of the average person when faced against such an entity.
3. What?
4. Countries fail, yes, societies like freemasonry live on for thousands of years.
5. The society doesn't control the whole world, they intend to. If they controlled the whole world there would no longer be wars.
6. See 2a.
7. ...See 2a. Also there have been a number of celebrities and public figures (Dave Chapelle, Tupac, Michael Jackson, Woody Harrelson, Lupe Fiasco, Mark Ruffalo) that speak out on them but the general populace (informed by the media) thinks of them only as "CrAaAaZZzy CoOoNnNSpIraCists!! LOLOLOL"
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