Pakistan gives China access to downed US stealth chopper

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

Wow, changing sides i see.
I thought polls and statistics were terrible sources of information

:roll:

Of course, less than a minute on google and i know what you're saying isn't true.
There's no sense denying the problems americans have with debt.

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] I see an opinion. :?danjammer69

and i dont care .fact of the matter is in the beginning pakistan helped u in every possible way but u were ungrateful always saying "thats not enough do more ! ".but now we are sick of u ,ur aid and ur presence in our region we dont want it .america doesnt want a stable developed pakistan it is just using us .

and if america wants a piece of pakistan come get it .try andbombard us back to stone age as u threatened us after 9/11 and lets see where thats takes us

*sigh*

People always bashing Detroit...

I think the US shouldn't shoutout China, not yet.

They lend sooo much money from china, if they want the US to give them back their given money - the country will go bust.

And I think they would!

Gotta love these threads where countries are bashed with very little factual evidence and one-sided arguments like any terrible fad not worthy of existing. :lol:

[QUOTE="Ensamheten"]

USA had no right to be in Pakistan in the first place. Pakistan should do what ever they want with it. Hopefully they'll give it to Russia so that their weapon experts can create some kind of protection system and then sell this to anyone.

Wasdie

We have ever right to be in Pakistan when we give them aid which they in turn give straight to our enemy.

I guess we'll just pull all of our funding to them. Their loss if they want to help our enemy.

America's arrogance is just amazing... No, you don't have the "right" to invade whatever country you feel like it. Years of Iraq's occupation and WMDs were not found, period. It was a blatant lie, nothing more. America invaded Iraq for economic and geo-political reasons and that's it, they wanted to control the country. Iraq did not pose a threat to the US in any manner, yet they were invaded and because of that hundreds of thousands have died.

And why shouldn't Pakistan do whatever they want? China will probably be a much more reliable ally. Also, you don't get to call it "aid" when it implies military presence in the country. More like, small compensation.

Gotta love these threads where countries are bashed with very little factual evidence and one-sided arguments like any terrible fad not worthy of existing. :lol:

Desulated

i agree. the posts about the US purposely killing and targeting pakistani civilians are quite disturbing.

[QUOTE="Desulated"]

Gotta love these threads where countries are bashed with very little factual evidence and one-sided arguments like any terrible fad not worthy of existing. :lol:

ItalStallion777

i agree. the posts about the US purposely killing and targeting pakistani civilians are quite disturbing.

[QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]

[QUOTE="Desulated"]

Gotta love these threads where countries are bashed with very little factual evidence and one-sided arguments like any terrible fad not worthy of existing. :lol:

DroidPhysX

i agree. the posts about the US purposely killing and targeting pakistani civilians are quite disturbing.

Oh noes, the critical info they can gather from the scorched remnants of a slightly modified UH-60 :shock:

Verge_6

Obviously there is critical info to be gathered if China and Pakistan were interested.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]

i agree. the posts about the US purposely killing and targeting pakistani civilians are quite disturbing.

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Again...you are generalizing. You are Canadian are you not? 72 percent of Canadians are in debt. In the US...44 percent. So which country has the debt problem?

Nibroc420

Wow, changing sides i see.
I thought polls and statistics were terrible sources of information

Ah yes polls the shining example of get the answer you want by the way the question is worded.....:lol:LJS9502_basic

:roll:

Of course, less than a minute on google and i know what you're saying isn't true.
There's no sense denying the problems americans have with debt.

Actually, 72% of Canadiansare carrying some sort of debt. 89% of those 35 - 44 are carrying debt. Source

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] I notice a trend that it's coming from the same users.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I notice a trend coming from the US military.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Ensamheten"]

USA had no right to be in Pakistan in the first place. Pakistan should do what ever they want with it. Hopefully they'll give it to Russia so that their weapon experts can create some kind of protection system and then sell this to anyone.

nunovlopes

We have ever right to be in Pakistan when we give them aid which they in turn give straight to our enemy.

I guess we'll just pull all of our funding to them. Their loss if they want to help our enemy.

America's arrogance is just amazing... No, you don't have the "right" to invade whatever country you feel like it. Years of Iraq's occupation and WMDs were not found, period. It was a blatant lie, nothing more. America invaded Iraq for economic and geo-political reasons and that's it, they wanted to control the country. Iraq did not pose a threat to the US in any manner, yet they were invaded and because of that hundreds of thousands have died.

And why shouldn't Pakistan do whatever they want? China will probably be a much more reliable ally. Also, you don't get to call it "aid" when it implies military presence in the country. More like, small compensation.

One more time, Iraq has had and has used chemical weapons against both the Iranians and the Kurds. Do you think after they finished killing their own people, Saddam just all of a sudden just up and destroyed them? Ask Israel if they thought Saddam destroyed them prior to Desert Storm. Fact is, even after we went back in there, 500 pieces of artillery shells were found that had chemical agents in them, including deadly sarin gas. Nancy Pelosi was even given the report on it. Iraq WMD House Report

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]More generalizations then?

LJS9502_basic

Seriously, anyone who's actually looked at the numbers KNOWS that most Americans have a problem with debt, denying it doesn't solve the problem. Going "Canada/UK also have a bit of a problem too" wont solve the problem.

Looking at the numbers, and at your statements, i'm not sure if you're even serious anymore.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Sigh, when i mention statistics, you say that statistics are wrong. However when you mention statistics, you claim they're proof to your claim. Now everything we say about America is a generalization with no truth behind it.:roll: Sounds like someone's in denial about the issues America faces.Nibroc420

Seriously, anyone who's actually looked at the numbers KNOWS that most Americans have a problem with debt, denying it doesn't solve the problem. Going "Canada/UK also have a bit of a problem too" wont solve the problem.

Looking at the numbers, and at your statements, i'm not sure if you're even serious anymore.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I have not seen a post of yours that wasn't a generalization which doesn't fit the population.:roll:LJS9502_basic

Seriously, anyone who's actually looked at the numbers KNOWS that most Americans have a problem with debt, denying it doesn't solve the problem. Going "Canada/UK also have a bit of a problem too" wont solve the problem.

Looking at the numbers, and at your statements, i'm not sure if you're even serious anymore.

Do you even believe what you say anymore? You're contradicting yourself frequently.

I wonder how much the Pakistanis charged the Chinese for their peek at the wonder-stabilizer.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Alright.
Next i'll say "Most African Americans are black", and you'll go "That's an unfair/untrue generalization!" :roll:

Seriously, anyone who's actually looked at the numbers KNOWS that most Americans have a problem with debt, denying it doesn't solve the problem. Going "Canada/UK also have a bit of a problem too" wont solve the problem.

Looking at the numbers, and at your statements, i'm not sure if you're even serious anymore.

Nibroc420

Do you even believe what you say anymore? You're contradicting yourself frequently.

And why would you even bring that subject up in this thread anyway except to bash Americans.:|

It's not really confirmed that they were given access though. The ISI denies this, so who knows?sethman410

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Alright.
Next i'll say "Most African Americans are black", and you'll go "That's an unfair/untrue generalization!" :roll:

Seriously, anyone who's actually looked at the numbers KNOWS that most Americans have a problem with debt, denying it doesn't solve the problem. Going "Canada/UK also have a bit of a problem too" wont solve the problem.

Looking at the numbers, and at your statements, i'm not sure if you're even serious anymore.

Nibroc420

Do you even believe what you say anymore? You're contradicting yourself frequently.

[QUOTE="sethman410"]It's not really confirmed that they were given access though. The ISI denies this, so who knows?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Since you wanted to bring the statistics about debt into it...I gave you statistics. And statistically Canadians have more debt than Americans. So your thesis was incorrect.

DroidPhysX

Do you even believe what you say anymore? You're contradicting yourself frequently.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Sigh. But you're the one who said statistics can be slanted, and cant be taken as proof.
Now you're using them as proof. :?

Do you even believe what you say anymore? You're contradicting yourself frequently.

LJS9502_basic

I can see there's no point in continuing a discussion with someone who doesn't even believe their own statements. Continue to contradict yourself good sir.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sethman410"]It's not really confirmed that they were given access though. The ISI denies this, so who knows?sethman410

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Didn't he say polls can be slanted? I didn't see any mention of statistics.

Nibroc420

I can see there's no point in continuing a discussion with someone who doesn't even believe their own statements. Continue to contradict yourself good sir.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Yeah I mentioned polls. Not statistics but I don't believe he has another argument after I posted the accurate information for him.

LJS9502_basic

I can see there's no point in continuing a discussion with someone who doesn't even believe their own statements. Continue to contradict yourself good sir.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :roll: accurate.

I can see there's no point in continuing a discussion with someone who doesn't even believe their own statements. Continue to contradict yourself good sir.

Nibroc420

I did the research....and the facts are that there is less debt carried in the US than in Canada. You jumped on the US for debt while as a Canadian the problem is more prevalent in your own country. Perhaps I'm not the one that should research?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :roll: accurate.

I can see there's no point in continuing a discussion with someone who doesn't even believe their own statements. Continue to contradict yourself good sir.

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No there is no point in continuing this conversation because I shut down your attack.;)LJS9502_basic

I did the research....and the facts are that there is less debt carried in the US than in Canada. You jumped on the US for debt while as a Canadian the problem is more prevalent in your own country. Perhaps I'm not the one that should research?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] With proof that YOU said was invalid. Yeah, that really did it. It's more the frustration of dealing with someone who refuses to look into the things he talks about. Do some research, you'll understand what i'm talking about.Nibroc420

I did the research....and the facts are that there is less debt carried in the US than in Canada. You jumped on the US for debt while as a Canadian the problem is more prevalent in your own country. Perhaps I'm not the one that should research?

[QUOTE="danjammer69"][QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]

and i dont care .fact of the matter is in the beginning pakistan helped u in every possible way but u were ungrateful always saying "thats not enough do more ! ".but now we are sick of u ,ur aid and ur presence in our region we dont want it .america doesnt want a stable developed pakistan it is just using us .

and if america wants a piece of pakistan come get it .try andbombard us back to stone age as u threatened us after 9/11 and lets see where thats takes us

LostProphetFLCL

*sigh*

People always bashing Detroit...

But it's just too fun to stop. I mean common now.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Quote that for me.....since you keep misrepresenting my posts.

I did the research....and the facts are that there is less debt carried in the US than in Canada. You jumped on the US for debt while as a Canadian the problem is more prevalent in your own country. Perhaps I'm not the one that should research?

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] No, i'll simply suggest you actually do some research. This isn't the first time stubbornness has prevented you from listening to the truth. Again, denial wont solve the problem.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No there is no point in continuing this conversation because I shut down your attack.;)Verge_6

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] With proof that YOU said was invalid. Yeah, that really did it. It's more the frustration of dealing with someone who refuses to look into the things he talks about. Do some research, you'll understand what i'm talking about.Verge_6

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] With proof that YOU said was invalid. Yeah, that really did it. It's more the frustration of dealing with someone who refuses to look into the things he talks about. Do some research, you'll understand what i'm talking about.Verge_6

With proof that YOU said was invalid. Yeah, that really did it. It's more the frustration of dealing with someone who refuses to look into the things he talks about. Do some research, you'll understand what i'm talking about.Nibroc420

The video says that they were told to be handed over to an Iraqi hospital. No such thing of the children being ordered to die is reported as happening in this video

he's since left the army and speaks out against such injustice.

Nibroc420

Going to need some citation on this

Just because you're in denial about the terrible acts that the USA commits,

Nibroc420

Wow, someone awfully knee-jerky and edgy, hmm?

This wasn't the first time civilians have been gunned down, nor was it the last.Nibroc420

Of course not. Accidental civilian casualties are far, far too common. Problem is, you're presenting these incidents as US soldiers gladly and knowingly firing into crowds of screaming and fleeing citizens for no reason, not at clusters of armed men(as evident in 3:45, where AK-47s and RPGs are clearly seen) in the direct vicinity of an intense urban combat situation that is simultaneously occuring

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] Since you're here, can you please provide me with a link to this vid of US personnel laughing while they gun down fleeing civilians from a helicopter that you keep mentioning? I've looked everywhere and can find no such thing.

lordreaven

I don't think most US army forces laugh while gunning down civilians, although there has been several cases of murders that have been tried to be kept hidden by the US army, who knows how many more hasn't been leaked. Having said that, what that video clearly shows is that the army doesn't necessarily goes to "great lengths to avoid civilian loss of life". There has been several investigations for example that deemed obliterating the van as unnecessary and the soldiers were clearly enjoying themselves while gunning down these people judging by the audio of the video. If the army didn't have something to be ashamed of they wouldn't have blocked the release of the video to Reuters when they asked for it. Clearly the video doesn't show the kind of behavior they promote their forces to engage on.kuraimen

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

you make me sick

NiteLights

:lol: truth is the truth whether u like it or not .

so u think pakistan cant do jack to america ?? i dont think you know what a nuclear powered country means and what in possession of more than 100 nuclear warheads mean. sure america has more and it can wipe us out but if we will go down we will make sure that we take you with us .

and i have said several times we pakistanis dont want the "aid" u force down our throat

u talk about evidence about usama's death? i shouldnt be asked of evidence if anyone should be giving evidence of his death it is the american government .but what can they give as evidence when there isnt any ?? :lol:

if Pakistan is stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds them

NiteLights

:lol:

so u think pakistan cant do jack to america ?? i dont think you know what a nuclear powered country means and what in possession of more than 100 nuclear warheads mean. sure america has more and it can wipe us out but if we will go down we will make sure that we take you with us .

and i have said several times we pakistanis dont want the "aid" u force down our throat

u talk about evidence about usama's death? i shouldnt be asked of evidence if anyone should be giving evidence of his death it is the american government .but what can they give as evidence when there isnt any ?? :lol:

blaze_adeel

Pakistan can't do jack toUS but it sure can do a lot to US pimp Israel :P and to me that's all that matters, Pakistan is a muslim country with nukes so it will go down one day or another but I just hope they take Israel with them. Anyways there is enough proof Bin Laden is dead even if you don't believe anything CIA says.

[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]

so u think pakistan cant do jack to america ?? i dont think you know what a nuclear powered country means and what in possession of more than 100 nuclear warheads mean. sure america has more and it can wipe us out but if we will go down we will make sure that we take you with us .

and i have said several times we pakistanis dont want the "aid" u force down our throat

u talk about evidence about usama's death? i shouldnt be asked of evidence if anyone should be giving evidence of his death it is the american government .but what can they give as evidence when there isnt any ?? :lol:

Harisemo

Pakistan can't do jack toUS but it sure can do a lot to US pimp Israel :P and to me that's all that matters, Pakistan is a muslim country with nukes so it will go down one day or another but I just hope they take Israel with them. Anyways there is enough proof Bin Laden is dead even if you don't believe anything CIA says.

you are underestimating your own country there bro our warheads are capable of targetting america. but israel is a good alternative :P

and i believe bin laden is dead no doubt but he died years back .he wasnt in abbotabad

when i am talking about evidence about his death i mean evidence that he died in abbotabad and america dumped its body in the ocean

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]

so u think pakistan cant do jack to america ?? i dont think you know what a nuclear powered country means and what in possession of more than 100 nuclear warheads mean. sure america has more and it can wipe us out but if we will go down we will make sure that we take you with us .

and i have said several times we pakistanis dont want the "aid" u force down our throat

u talk about evidence about usama's death? i shouldnt be asked of evidence if anyone should be giving evidence of his death it is the american government .but what can they give as evidence when there isnt any ?? :lol:

blaze_adeel

Pakistan can't do jack toUS but it sure can do a lot to US pimp Israel :P and to me that's all that matters, Pakistan is a muslim country with nukes so it will go down one day or another but I just hope they take Israel with them. Anyways there is enough proof Bin Laden is dead even if you don't believe anything CIA says.

ISI has plenty of proof Bin Laden was killed in this raid or not, they could easily own US given all the propaganda BS US has been spewing against Pak Army/ISI+ Afghan Taliban confirmed his death which for me is the most reliable confirmation.

you are underestimating your own country there bro our warheads are capable of targetting america. but israel is a good alternative :P

blaze_adeel

We don't have any missiles capable of reaching US