Paul Ryan's Main Influence: 10 Things You Should Know About the Lunatic Ayn Rand

Mmm, yes, the joy of discoverning Ayn Rand lives on. It's disappointing that his first name isn't actually Andrew.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]What is wrong with selfishness? What is wrong with being concerned with yourself? If you're not concerned with yourself, then who will be? Someone has to make sure you have food, housing, and whatever else you need to live a decent life (an education, for example). It seems rational for each of us to be responsible for ourselves, rather than hope that some other person will take care of us. If you are not responsible for yourself, you are a burden on someone else. You cannot be responsible for yourself without being concerned with yourself. So again, what is wrong with selfishness?Laihendi

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]What is wrong with selfishness? What is wrong with being concerned with yourself? If you're not concerned with yourself, then who will be? Someone has to make sure you have food, housing, and whatever else you need to live a decent life (an education, for example). It seems rational for each of us to be responsible for ourselves, rather than hope that some other person will take care of us. If you are not responsible for yourself, you are a burden on someone else. You cannot be responsible for yourself without being concerned with yourself. So again, what is wrong with selfishness?Laihendi

Another interesting fact is that Paul Ryan used social security survivor benefits to pay for college. He was using the system he seems to hate much earlier than most.

and conservative ideology inches closer to nazism.

Another interesting fact is that Paul Ryan used social security survivor benefits to pay for college. He was using the system he seems to hate much earlier than most.

Guybrush_3

Would explain all the conservatives who get caught with male prostitutes...

So if you're influenced by someone, all of that someone's attributes are passed on to you?

Does this mean all the "Marxist Professors" that Obama says he chose as his friends in college are fair game now?

I don't need to understand anything about Ayn Rand to know that I don't agree with Paul Ryan. I can just look at his budget, and his stance on socially conservative subjects. I think the whole Ayn Rand thing is overblown.

What is wrong with selfishness? What is wrong with being concerned with yourself? If you're not concerned with yourself, then who will be? Someone has to make sure you have food, housing, and whatever else you need to live a decent life (an education, for example). It seems rational for each of us to be responsible for ourselves, rather than hope that some other person will take care of us. If you are not responsible for yourself, you are a burden on someone else. You cannot be responsible for yourself without being concerned with yourself. So again, what is wrong with selfishness?Laihendi

and conservative ideology inches closer to nazism.

TopTierHustler

How the crap is strongly advocating individual freedom inching toward nazism?

Who in this thread understands what Rand meant when she talked about "selfishness" and "altruism"? Evidently no one. I don't like Ayn Rand, but this is just another totally uninformed critique that latches on to the terms she used without understanding how she defined them. Anyone who mentions Greenspan's policies to attack Rand is dishonest or stupid. How many of you have actually read what she wrote? I have yet to see a left wing critique of what she actually believed in terms of philosophy, and this garbage article is no exception.Rhazakna

http://www.lacan.com/frameXII5.htm

"1. Rand's ideological limitation is here clearly perceptible: in spite of the new impetus that the myth of the "prime movers" got from the digital industry (Steve Jobs, Bill Gates), individual capitalists are today, in our era of multinationals, definitely not its "prime movers." In other words, what Rand "represses" is the fact that the rule of the crowd is the inherent outcome of the dynamic of capitalism itself."

Did you people actually read the fountainhead? bobaban

Dem 80 pages long speeches!

I like her books even if I don't agree with her philosophy.

So if you're influenced by someone, all of that someone's attributes are passed on to you?

Does this mean all the "Marxist Professors" that Obama says he chose as his friends in college are fair game now?

Neoklondiak

Any thread where kuraimen uses the word lunatic and isn't describing himself is merely a troll thread.

Any thread where kuraimen uses the word lunatic and isn't describing himself is merely a troll thread.

airshocker

Agreed, although it wasn't until he said that Marxism is decently grounded in science and reality that I decided to totally discredit this thread.

Any thread where kuraimen uses the word lunatic and isn't describing himself is merely a troll thread.

airshocker

Glad to see you lack any arguing points whatsoever. Typical from someone who lacks reasoning skills.kuraimen

That's because I'm not arguing with you. I'm stating a fact.

Agreed, although it wasn't until he said that Marxism is decently grounded in science and reality that I decided to totally discredit this thread.

GIJames248

I've learned long ago to disregard anything kuraimen says. And every thread he creates he gives me even more reason to do so.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Glad to see you lack any arguing points whatsoever. Typical from someone who lacks reasoning skills.airshocker

That's because I'm not arguing with you. I'm stating a fact.

Lol, keep telling you that buddy. The fact is you CAN'T argue with me because I usually use evidence something which you are allergic to so you resort to petty insults instead.

I don't need to understand anything about Ayn Rand to know that I don't agree with Paul Ryan. I can just look at his budget, and his stance on socially conservative subjects. I think the whole Ayn Rand thing is overblown.

jimkabrhel

tl;dr

All I know is Paul Ryan is in favour of for-profit schools which makes him a scumbag automatically.

Lol, keep telling you that buddy. The fact is you CAN'T argue with me because I usually use evidence something which you are allergic to so you resort to petty insults instead.

kuraimen

I can't argue with you, let alone have an intelligent conversation with you, because you're batsh*t insane. You don't make sense on the best of days, and you're a lunatic on the worst of 'em.

So why bother? There are plenty of users here I disagree with, but at least they make sense.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Lol, keep telling you that buddy. The fact is you CAN'T argue with me because I usually use evidence something which you are allergic to so you resort to petty insults instead.

airshocker

I can't argue with you, let alone have an intelligent conversation with you, because you're batsh*t insane. You don't make sense on the best of days, and you're a lunatic on the worst of 'em.

So why bother? There are plenty of users here I disagree with, but at least they make sense.

I stopped reading at the part where it talked about the conspiracy theory of conservatives trying seduce Americans.

cslayer211

lol, what the hell?

I don't make sense according to you yet you're incapable of even showing what doesn't make sense. If you focus on that you'll realize why your position is so weak and full of sh1t. You can't even make an argument as to why you think I don't make sense, your stance is purely based on irrational emotional reactions to the ideas I present but you don't generate any useful rational thought around them that could support your own thoughts. That's why your position is usually so easy to debunk. Try to stop and think critically from time to time.kuraimen

We've already been through all of this: I don't need to make an argument to state a fact.

Well she was a hypocritical woman who died recieving government aid and benefits.

Did you people actually read the fountainhead? bobaban

I tried to read Atlas Shrugged but I didn't get very far. Rand is a terrible storyteller.