People arrested for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial... is this real?

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

Well, the officer said there was a rule against dancing. If this is true, then I have nothing against what they did.MushroomWig

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

Well, the officer said there was a rule against dancing. If this is true, then I have nothing against what they did.stanleycup98

I can probably guarantee there was something that provoked this other than dancing and they probably went there just to start this problem.

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Really? You have nothing against people getting arrested for something as petty as dancing? You seem to be the type of person who will obey anything that's made into a "rule". Try to understand how pathetic the situation is, arrested for dancing? Come on, most people would have re-acted the same way if someone told them they couldn't do something like dance.

FFCYAN

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"] Why do they need to be dancing on a public memorial? No, I have nothing against that. Completely disrespectful in my opinion.stanleycup98

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"][QUOTE="FFCYAN"]That's right! Obey, conform. Let the policies and police decide what's right and wrong for you!

DroidPhysX

Well i take back what i said, apparently it is real..

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I still don't care that they were arrested because its disrespectful.

stanleycup98

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

I still don't care that they were arrested because its disrespectful.

FFCYAN

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

I still don't care that they were arrested because its disrespectful.

stanleycup98

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

I still don't care that they were arrested because its disrespectful.

stanleycup98

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"][QUOTE="FFCYAN"]So you have no problem with the police arresting anyone doing things you find disrespectful? I just want to clarify your thoughts on this.

Setsa

The courts have ruled that you cannot dance there. The kids went there to protest by dancing knowing they would be arrested. They got arrested. They got the result they were after. Good for them.

It's illegal to dance at the Jefferson Memorial, according to the Washington Post. Apparently, the judge's ruling was that the Jefferson Memorial's purpose was to reflect and give a chance to for people to examine, praise, and/or criticize him, not dance around.

So yeah, the police had to enforce the law and can't really blame them, nor could I blame the protesters for dancing. They probably already knew the risks but their intentions (for them) were good. If someone here is to blame, it's the judge and his/her ruling.

Personally, it's rediculous to ban dancing at a federal building. How can an officer regulate dancing efficiently at a public memorial? I mean, people will do something for some reason. In this case, it's best not to make a big deal out of dancing at a memorial. People know it's disrespectful and unnecessary, and that barely anyone would dance...

If its the law, then its the law. Personally, I don't agree with it and I think its ridiculous.

What if I had a hurt leg and I limp and it causes me to walk from side to side and shuffle my feet. Does that count as dancing? Or is it the intent that matters?

They were provoking the officers. If a cop says you can't dance, you can't dance. You can quote the Constitution all you'd like - on the way to jail. This is the real world, no one gives a ****bobaban

You can quote the constitution all you want on your way to jail but if a cop tells you to stick it up your butt you had better do it.

[QUOTE="bobaban"]They were provoking the officers. If a cop says you can't dance, you can't dance. You can quote the Constitution all you'd like - on the way to jail. This is the real world, no one gives a ****Mind_Mover

You can quote the constitution all you want on your way to jail but if a cop tells you to stick it up your butt you had better do it.

Of course he would, this is the real world. Gotta do what the police say lol.

Good. Jefferson hated hipsters.fidosim

I dont know, Im mixed. They were really obnoxious, but "You cant dance here" Thats just stupid to begin with.

[QUOTE="Seajack"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]lol get over yourself, if you hate us so much then just don't post

needled24-7

and yes, you do need to get over yourself

Sounds like the "Im older than you, Im entitled" arguement. Get over yourself, indeed.

They deserved to go to jail. It's a memorial and you're supposed to be respectful.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"]They were provoking the officers. If a cop says you can't dance, you can't dance. You can quote the Constitution all you'd like - on the way to jail. This is the real world, no one gives a ****raynimrod

You can quote the constitution all you want on your way to jail but if a cop tells you to stick it up your butt you had better do it.

Of course he would, this is the real world. Gotta do what the police say lol.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]If a cop told you to stick a banana up your butt would you do it?

You can quote the constitution all you want on your way to jail but if a cop tells you to stick it up your butt you had better do it.

bobaban

Of course he would, this is the real world. Gotta do what the police say lol.

Actually, I have - but you know what they say about assumptions.

Your argument of "if a cop says X you must do Y" doesn't apply to everything - that was the only point being made here.

I dont know, Im mixed. They were really obnoxious, but "You cant dance here" Thats just stupid to begin with.

Shmiity

It might be stupid, but that's why you challenge it the legal way. Don't openly defy the law and not expect to not get arrested.

[QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Of course he would, this is the real world. Gotta do what the police say lol.

raynimrod

Actually, I have - but you know what they say about assumptions.

Your argument of "if a cop says X you must do Y" doesn't apply to everything - that was the only point being made here.

Except that you said something different from what bobadan said. Bobadan said "If a cop tells you not to do something, don't do it." You said "Ifa cop tells you to do something, do it." Those are completely different statements. Your smartass comment was lacking in "smart".

[QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Of course he would, this is the real world. Gotta do what the police say lol.

raynimrod

Actually, I have - but you know what they say about assumptions.

Your argument of "if a cop says X you must do Y" doesn't apply to everything - that was the only point being made here.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Because it's defeating the purpose of the memorial, and it's rude. The issue isn't necessarily legality, but principal. That's what you kids don't get. And instead of being respectful of the officers, they decided to be dicks and disregard them.

Memorials are to be treated as a grave. A place for remembering someone who did something great, and made a difference. Have you ever visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier? Same deal. You really shouldn't even be talking. Someone, maybe your parents, or your teachers, have failed to teach you, and many others that

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[QUOTE="Seajack"]It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. Seajack

I don't think your friend was the founding father of a great nation though, now were they?

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"] I can tell you've never dealt with real cops. Go outside in the real world for once and try breaking the law (however minor) in front of cops and see what happens. bobaban

Actually, I have - but you know what they say about assumptions.

Your argument of "if a cop says X you must do Y" doesn't apply to everything - that was the only point being made here.

Good cops take circumstances in considiration and then decides to bust or not bust you.
But i guess in this case, where a group of people were intentionally provoking the cops, they did right.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"] I can tell you've never dealt with real cops. Go outside in the real world for once and try breaking the law (however minor) in front of cops and see what happens. ROFLCOPTER603

Actually, I have - but you know what they say about assumptions.

Your argument of "if a cop says X you must do Y" doesn't apply to everything - that was the only point being made here.

Except that you said something different from what bobadan said. Bobadan said "If a cop tells you not to do something, don't do it." You said "Ifa cop tells you to do something, do it." Those are completely different statements.

They're fundamentally the same for argument's sake. Both are commands.

How do you enforce "No dancing"? Its silly. If they were making loud, obnoxious calls and shouts, okay, sure. The kids were super obnoxious trying to stick it to the cops, but that law has too many"How do you define dancing"to be enforced.

What, are they gonna arrest people for talking in libraries now?

That whole situation was just caused by a douche cop, but made worse by douche teenagers.

How do you enforce "No dancing"? Its silly. If they were making loud, obnoxious calls and shouts, okay, sure. The kids were super obnoxious trying to stick it to the cops, but that law has too many"How do you define dancing"to be enforced.

What, are they gonna arrest people for talking in libraries now?

That whole situation was just caused by a douche cop, but made worse by douche teenagers.

Shmiity

No, the situation was caused by douche teenagers. They went there with the intent to "protest" knowing full and well they'd get arrested.

[QUOTE="Seajack"]It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Seajack"]It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. JasonGriffee

Doubt no longer.

The cop CLEARLY warned them in the beginning and asked if they understood. The guy clearly is obstructing when he pulls his friends arm while being placed under arrest.

They deserved what they got for being such morons.

[Get over myself? Jesus Christ.... Unlike you, I've earned the right to be full of myself and be a pissed off old man. If I didn't want to post here, I would stop. I have my reasons to be here though, and I'm not all butthurt about a couple stupid kids. Either contribute to the discussion, or stay out of it.Seajack

Lose the attitude.

Horrible dancers like those people deserve to get arrested.

[QUOTE="Seajack"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]lol get over yourself, if you hate us so much then just don't post

needled24-7

and yes, you do need to get over yourself

I also agree he should get over himself.

One thing that many people missed was the guy (man acutally) wearing the Code Pink t-shirt, a well known group of protestors. This is the same group that had a woman state that someone should stand up for their rights while protesting a Marine Corps recruiting station that was set up in Berkely California (and one wonders why people call California the land of fruits and nuts). They also protest at and get thrown out of Congress while Senators and Congresssmen are meeting and debating issues.

They were dancing as a form of protest due to a woman losing a case in which the US Court of Appeals upheld a previous ruling that stated that demonstrations cannot take place (whether for joy or otherwise) inside a memorial (notice that civil rights protests are held on the steps outside of the Lincoln Memorial and not inside).

Those adults (not kids mind you as some have professed them to be) knew exactly what they were doing and what they were getting into. The one could be seen trying to hinder the arrest of another and another actively resisted (the guy in the white t-shirt that was body slammed). The video can play against them once they go to court. .This is one case where video even showed the cops giving a warning even though they may not have needed to.