People just automatically hate on Disney just to look cool.

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#101 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Well how come 70-90% don't like it?

MrPraline

Because we're not preteens. :lol:

Neither am I.

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#102 MrLions
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Well how come 70-90% don't like it?

DragonRebel0908
Because the shows arn't good. The stories suck, you don't learn anything, the jokes are terrible, the list can go on.
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#103 Theokhoth
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Well how come 70-90% don't like it?

DragonRebel0908

Because it's postmodern **** targeted solely at mindless preteens. :|

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#104 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Well how come 70-90% don't like it?

DragonRebel0908

Because we're not preteens. :lol:

Neither am I.

No, and you watch it because you're attracted to their teen girls. You said it yourself. The shows are terrible.
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#105 awsss
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Those are fudging kids movies/concerts, that's why. Hannah Montana, the Jonas Brothers, are all gimmicks of Disney to hook kids in with substandard music. People that actually like them are under thirteen, easily.

Disney could play ANYTHING and the kids would buy it, because the kids don't know better.

And the music is garbage. GARBAGE. That's why people hate it.

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#106 kemar7856
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I don't hate disney just the new stuff like hanna montana etc etc the classic movies are great

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#107 xTheExploited
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Do you ever shut up about Disney?
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#109 turbotoby95
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It's easy to hate on disney. Just look at the shows they have on, garbage.

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yea it'z not to hard to hate the atrocious show called "JONAS"
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#110 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="MrLions"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Well how come 70-90% don't like it?

Because the shows arn't good. The stories suck, you don't learn anything, the jokes are terrible, the list can go on.

Exactly. /thread. Actually it should've been /thread a long time ago, but I guess DragonRebel just has to come up with helpless points :|
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#111 nimatoad2000
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omg not this again. how old are you OT? or is this the 22 year old guy that watches hannah montana for the girls again, i forgot.
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#112 AirGuitarist87
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I've watched some of those shows all the way through. Partly out of curiosity, partly out of a "so I said I have" piece of my argument. They are terrible. The jokes are mildly amusing at best, but the canned laughter over emphasises what is meant to be funny. Like someone physically telling you "this is funny, so laugh". On top of that you can barely relate to the people you're watching. They're all set in Beverly Hills-style schools where everyone has a seemingly bottomless financial background (I swear one episode the main characters were being carted around in a limo). Kenan & Kel, Even Stevens and tons of British live shows on CiTV (Max's Millions and this Flight of the Navigator-esque one) were light years ahead of what's currently on.
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#113 SpaceMoose
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People just use the phrase "hate on" to look cool.

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#114 MrPraline
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or is this the 22 year old guy that watches hannah montana for the girls again,.nimatoad2000
I think so, yes.
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#115 Setsa
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If you're really trying to get your "fix" off of girls in Disney programming, well, it just goes to show how much sex can sell for now a days and how Disney is a dastard with marketing. As for the actual coporation, they USED to be awesome, they'd have interesting and epic plots that children and adults alike could enjoy, now they're just selling sex to kids/teens.
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#116 EMOEVOLUTION
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Hmm, no, you're wrong.

The problem with Disney films/tv shows is that they use an insane amount of cultural steroetpying. They don't present accurate information regarding historical topics they try to recreate in animation or on film, and give children the wrong idea about what' is real and what is not real.The reason they do this is because they're only concerned about making money. The easiest way to make money is to play on peoples misconceptions about other people and reality itself.

I grew up watching Disney animations/films. When I was young and naive.. I enjoyed them, but now after expirecing life.. I know better. Do you really want to teach your 3 year old daughter she's a princess and can expect a fairy tale romance with a man? Well if you do.. the you know nothing about reality.

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#117 Videodogg
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Disney use to make great movies; Swiss Family Robinson, The Castaways, Island at the Top of the World, The Computer Who Wore TennisShoes, etc. But that was a long time ago.

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#118 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Well how come 70-90% don't like it?

DragonRebel0908

Because we're not preteens. :lol:

Neither am I.

So? You're part of the 10%. The rest of us don't like it because it doesn't appeal to us. There's nothing "cool" about having an opinion. If there was, then everyone would be "cool," even you who seem so obsessed with putting yourself down over liking modern Disney would be "cool" because you like it and that's an opinion. It's like with a terrible movie (one with bad acting, plot, soundtrack, etc.). A movie that no critics like, nobody you know likes, but you like for some reason (in the case of Disney it'd be the popstar girls). They don't like it because it doesn't appeal to their tastes, not because it's "cool."
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#119 Jazz_Fan
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Well of course its cool, Its like hating the government to show you're not afraid of it.
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#120 deactivated-59d151f079814
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..... Things like Hannah Montana are AWFUL shows and movies.. Pixar and animated disney movies like Aladdin is where its at.
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#121 WiiMan21
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I watch disney to ocasionally, but the acting is the worst at the moment.

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#122 zakkro
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That or it's complete and utter ****. Yeah, I'll go with that.
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#123 CBR600-RR
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[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

You go to IMDB for movie ratings? :lol:
Anyway, I don't like all that disney crap at all, because I don't. Why must you assume people hate on it because they want to look cool? Ever heard of an opinion?

carrot-cake

Actually, IMDB's ratings are accurate.. they've never give a film a 10.


Well that doesn't make them accurate. Plus its users who give the ratings, not actual critics. Perhaps there are some critics on there.

Well the films on the top 100 are accurate, they're all great films, except Scarface, I think that's on there. I don't like film critics at all.

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#124 LJS9502_basic
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I think it's best to let people like what they like and not like what they don't and extend the same courtesy to others.

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#126 XxElSoadFanXx
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Well I find the disney channel shows quite dumb, I mean they try to be funny but they over do it which leads to a poorly done show
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#127 The_AI
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I dislike it because its nothing more than juvenile crap aimed for a younger audience.

You are only saying its "cool" to hate on it because you are a fan and you are tired of the constant bashing.

Old Disney movies were the best, now its been reduced to garbage, it deserves to be hated. You hardly ever see a reference to the old Disney on that channel anymore...

Its changed.

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You, sir, speak the truth.

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#128 starfox15
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Have you been to Disney World/Land recently? Have you seen the prices for a pad of paper with a princess graphic on it? Retail at DW is about 7$. A disposable camera is $22.

Disney used to make great films that really made you think and featured fantastic animation with well drawn characters and scripts. They even had their own channel for this along with a constant stream of classic Disney cartoons.

Turn on Disney channel today and what do you see? Live action garbage. You know why its live action? Because kids are cheaper to exploit and really reaches into their desired demographic. Cartoons have taken a backseat and are now crap as well.

The man who was in charge for a period from 1984-2005, Michael Eisner, basically took what was once a world renowned company, and created his own toxic environment from which he was made to profit. He didn't care about anything else and Disney is still suffering for it.

Pixar is about the only thing good that's come from Disney in the last decade or so in my opinion. Without their phenomenal track record of fantastic films, Disney's share in the movie stocks would be in the toilet. I respect Pixar 100%. I respect Disney about as much as I do modern religion.

I don't hate on Disney to look cool. I hate on them because they deserve it. I grew up on Disney and it disgusts me to see what they've become today.

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#129 nimatoad2000
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the shows are made for kids, thus the subject matter is reflected by what kids do and say and the way they think. thus its not mature, very childish, and has humor targeted twards children. an adult cannot and should not find these programs worth watching. grow up OT.
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#130 shadowkiller11
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I got moderated for a completely dumb thing, basically disney are as bad as gamespot very bad.
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#131 gameguy6700
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No one hates on Disney to be "cool". You're only saying that because you like the channel and want to feel better about the fact that you like it. The real reason people hate on Disney is because all of their stuff is unredeemable crap. All of it is designed to maximally exploit their child audience, and while this has always been Disney's business plan (see: Wonderful World of Disney) it's gotten to a point now where they aren't even trying to make a quality product. The shows are Disney channel perfectly reflect the mentality, world view, and maturity of a pre-teen.

Hannah Montana and Jonas Brothers are nothing but commercially manufactured and expertly marketed products. They are not talented singers/muscians by anyone's standards, except of course children who, as we all know, have no standards. Really though the kids aren't even attracted to the actual music. Rather they're attracted to the product: The really cool (to them anyway), good looking teenager(s). What's really great about Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers (and Hillary Duff back when she was Disney's manufactured star teen singer) is that they gloriously exploit children's desires to be just like their older siblings, or older kids/teens in general in that 8-13 year olds feel like they're acting just like the teenagers they adore so much when they get mom or dad to buy them a Hannah Montana CD or attend a Jonas Brothers concert.

The only good stuff Disney has put out is what they've hired Pixar to do for them. Disney then just acts like a leech and exploits the franchises that Pixar creates.

The only thing I like about Disney is their corporate strategy. They are absolute pros when it comes to marketing and they know better than anyone else how to exploit the 14 and under demographic.

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#132 gamer_10001
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Barring Pixar movies the only worthwhile movie Disney has recently released is Pirates of the Caribean: Curse of the Black Pearl.

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#133 SamusFreak
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Well how come 70-90% don't like it?

DragonRebel0908

Because we're not preteens. :lol:

Neither am I.

Because they see that Disney has become a pathetic shadow of its former self and are not into jail bait, as you seem to be.

NO one is telling you that your a loser and that you can't like disney. they are telling you the exact opposite. you asked why we don't like it and we told you why. you care way to much too much about other peoples oppions about yourself. I can tell that just by teh fact that this is like what? the 3rd topic about this you have made with a a monthish time frame? you keep asking us why we view it our way, but you refuse to fully look at it our way yourself.

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#134 DragonRebel0908
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You're just gonna keep telling me that I can't watch it.

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#135 MrPraline
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You're just gonna keep telling me that I can't watch it.

DragonRebel0908
You can watch it for all I care, just don't expect us to watch and like it.
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#136 DragonRebel0908
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I don't have to share the popular opinion? That's my whole point. Because see...there it is again. That Nimatoad guy telling me to grow up. I don't need to "grow up".

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#137 smokingsbad
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You're just gonna keep telling me that I can't watch it.

DragonRebel0908
why does this matter to you? are you trying to make us like it as well
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#138 MarkyyR
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Although I dont like the Disney channel I agree with you people hate it just to fit in.I watch the Suite Life of Zack and Cody..Its not that bad honestly.
People just hate it to be cool and all like "Yea I hate this stuff cause everyone else hates it to lets go make fun of it"..The Jonas brothers guitar solos arent horribal..

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#139 Theokhoth
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Barring Pixar movies the only worthwhile movie Disney has recently released is Pirates of the Caribean: Curse of the Black Pearl.

gamer_10001

The Narnia movies weren't bad either, but they dropped that. :x

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#140 esb1118
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I agree, I don't understand why people well above the target age like to bash something that 8 year olds enjoy. Sure it's annoying pop music, but do you truly care what they show on a children's channel?

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#141 MrPraline
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l I agree with you people hate it just to fit inMarkyyR
Fit in with who? The internet? :lol: I know nobody in real life that even mentions the Disney channel.
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#142 smokingsbad
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Although I dont like the Disney channel I agree with you people hate it just to fit in.I watch the Suite Life of Zack and Cody..Its not that bad honestly.
People just hate it to be cool and all like "Yea I hate this stuff cause everyone else hates it to lets go make fun of it"..The Jonas brothers guitar solos arent horribal..

MarkyyR

or maybeeeeee its just a bad show

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#143 DragonRebel0908
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So can I still watch Disney and be respected or not?

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#144 Jaguar_Shade
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Disney and kids movies are the coolest, and anyone hating on them "just cuz" is a dork loser conformist nazi.
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#145 Severed_Hand
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i like disney when i was a wee lad. aladin and lion king will always be two of my favourites.
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#146 SlayWayMore
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Disney and kids movies are the coolest, and anyone hating on them "just cuz" is a dork loser conformist nazi.Jaguar_Shade

Wait, arent we posting on a GAME forum.

this post lacks /sarcasm

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#147 pierst179
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I love Disney but the Disney I love is the one that produced great animations and cartoon from 1923 to 2000. Nowadays all this Hannah Montana and Jonas Brothers stuff make most Disney fans sick. The Disney Channel is easily one of the worst things on TV because the company has so many quality products to broadcast and still they choose to present terrible shows with lame actors and no plot.

Sorry for the rant but I am a huge Disney fan, one that has already worked for the company and I feel mad with the current state of the company. :(

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#148 Apocalypse97
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Well they did make the show duck tales (and it's awesome theme song)
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#149 msudude211
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I don't bash it to look cool... I bash it because I genuinely think it's not good.
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#150 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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So can I still watch Disney and be respected or not?

DragonRebel0908
You're STILL asking that question? Look, if watching pre-teen (or teenage, or however old they're supposed to be) programming makes you happy, then by all means be happy. But don't get upset if someone doesn't see eye-to-eye with you.