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#1 BluRayHiDef
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Please close this thread.

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#2 funsohng
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It's nothing to be proud of, but South Korea has higher suicide rate (and for a good reason. Our govt sucks). There is a lot of cultural influences in East Asian countries that affect suicide rate and depression. For one thing, if you are seen going to a psychiatry, you will be seen with weird looks from your co-workers the next day.
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#3 Flame_Blade88
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Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...
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#4 weezyfb
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i guess it has to do with their culture
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#6 ace-of-spades93
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I didn't expect that. But to be honest the only insight I had on japan was of the quirky cosplay girls :P

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#7 funsohng
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Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...Flame_Blade88
Yeah but suicide isn't that big compared to natural/other deaths. in fact, the death rate is decreasing too.
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#8 CRS98
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Loosen up, and don't give a ----. That's my answer.
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#9 Flame_Blade88
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[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...funsohng
Yeah but suicide isn't that big compared to natural/other deaths. in fact, the death rate is decreasing too.

Yeah it was just something I heard offhand. Wasn't sure it if was true or not.
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[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...funsohng
Yeah but suicide isn't that big compared to natural/other deaths. in fact, the death rate is decreasing too.

Actually, suicide is the NUMBER ONE cause of death among Japanese people less than the age of 30. That's ridiculous.

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#11 funsohng
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[QUOTE="weezyfb"]i guess it has to do with their culturemeconate
...I don't quite understand what you mean... I think you're taking Kamikaze a little too seriously. :P

No, East Asian culture takes responsibility and honour extremely seriously, and it was commonplace (especially in Japan) for the ones responsible to commit suicide after a company goes bankrupt (not really big now, but these kind of mentality still exist).
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#12 funsohng
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...BluRayHiDef

Yeah but suicide isn't that big compared to natural/other deaths. in fact, the death rate is decreasing too.

Actually, suicide is the NUMBER ONE cause of death among Japanese people less than the age of 30. That's ridiculous.

yeah but I'm pretty sure most of the people die after 30
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#13 Colin1192
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the japanese jumpers

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#14 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] Yeah but suicide isn't that big compared to natural/other deaths. in fact, the death rate is decreasing too.funsohng

Actually, suicide is the NUMBER ONE cause of death among Japanese people less than the age of 30. That's ridiculous.

yeah but I'm pretty sure most of the people die after 30

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

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#15 CRS98
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the japanese jumpers

Colin1192
Should be a baseball team.
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#16 taj7575
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It's nothing to be proud of, but South Korea has higher suicide rate (and for a good reason. Our govt sucks). There is a lot of cultural influences in East Asian countries that affect suicide rate and depression. For one thing, if you are seen going to a psychiatry, you will be seen with weird looks from your co-workers the next day.funsohng

Love South Korea and Japan, but honestly, I can't stand the culture sometimes. Again, it's obviously from me not living in the culture, but the social pressure, etc..Is so high.

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#17 Colin1192
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[QUOTE="Colin1192"]

the japanese jumpers

CRS98

Should be a baseball team.

although they may not make it through the whole season

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#18 funsohng
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Actually, suicide is the NUMBER ONE cause of death among Japanese people less than the age of 30. That's ridiculous.

BluRayHiDef

yeah but I'm pretty sure most of the people die after 30

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

huh?
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#19 taj7575
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] yeah but I'm pretty sure most of the people die after 30funsohng

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

huh?

Both of you are confusing me :lol:. What he said is that it's the number one cause of death for people below 30, and you said probably most people die after 30 (?).

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Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...Flame_Blade88
Indeed. And some user said it has to do with their culture, I agree with this. For instance Samurais, and Kamikazi(spelling) pilots. The Japanese seem to like suicide for some reason.
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#21 carrot-cake
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Well in Japan, the shame associated with failiure is immense. They don't have an "Oh well, you did your best attitude". Asian parents have the stereotype of being all "NOT MEDICAL SCHOOL!? YOU WILL DIE AS HOMELESS" type of thing for a reason. Asians in general have high expectations to meet and keep.

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#22 taj7575
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Well in Japan, the shame associated with failiure is immense. They don't have an "Oh well, you did your best attitude". Asian parents have the stereotype of being all "NOT MEDICAL SCHOOL!? YOU WILL DIE AS HOMELESS" type of thing for a reason. Asians in general have high expectations to meet and keep.

carrot-cake

Yes they are, and I thank my parents every time this is brought up that they weren't like that when they they brought my me and my sister.

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#23 Cataclism
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Japan sounds lovely :)

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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Actually, suicide is the NUMBER ONE cause of death among Japanese people less than the age of 30. That's ridiculous.

BluRayHiDef

yeah but I'm pretty sure most of the people die after 30

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

This post is gold; never, ever change
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#25 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

Well in Japan, the shame associated with failiure is immense. They don't have an "Oh well, you did your best attitude". Asian parents have the stereotype of being all "NOT MEDICAL SCHOOL!? YOU WILL DIE AS HOMELESS" type of thing for a reason. Asians in general have high expectations to meet and keep.

taj7575

Yes they are, and I thank my parents every time this is brought up that they weren't like that when they they brought my me and my sister.

Yes, and now you live in a dumpster.

[spoiler] That was a joke. [/spoiler]

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#26 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] yeah but I'm pretty sure most of the people die after 30xaos

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

This post is gold; never, ever change

It was a joke.

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#27 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

Well in Japan, the shame associated with failiure is immense. They don't have an "Oh well, you did your best attitude". Asian parents have the stereotype of being all "NOT MEDICAL SCHOOL!? YOU WILL DIE AS HOMELESS" type of thing for a reason. Asians in general have high expectations to meet and keep.

BluRayHiDef

Yes they are, and I thank my parents every time this is brought up that they weren't like that when they they brought my me and my sister.

Yes, and now you live in a dumpster.

That was a joke.

You..:evil:

:P

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#28 Cheesehead9099
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It's cool. They make good games.

Although the Dolphin killings in Taiji and other violence pisses me off.

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#29 taj7575
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

BluRayHiDef

This post is gold; never, ever change

It was a joke.

I think thats what he was getting at :P

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#30 mowcher
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Japanese society seems very sink or swim to me. From what I know of their history, (thank you shogun: total war), and as is mentioned in the video, suicide is seen as a viable and acceptable response to a problem.

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#31 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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I think that the weeaboos LIED TO ME No country would have that high a suicide rate with tentacle orgies and harems everywhere.
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

BluRayHiDef

This post is gold; never, ever change

It was a joke.

you cannot deny

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Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...Flame_Blade88
Yeah, the country will be little more than a tribe at one point if current population trends continue.
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#34 Espada12
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Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...Flame_Blade88

There's a decline in birth rate for most first world nations, so I'd say yes for japan as well.

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[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]I think that the weeaboos LIED TO ME No country would have that high a suicide rate with tentacle orgies and harems everywhere.

You only ever hear success stories after all. For every tentacle orgy there is 10 failed business men.
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#36 Barbariser
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I'm a Southeast Asian and I can see why they've got a problem with thatt. Our cultures in general are pretty backwards in terms of racial/sexual/religious equality, tend to restrict social freedoms for silly reasons and try to shoehorn people into things they may not necessarily be good at - there aren't a lot of opportunities for art or whatnot here, most of our education emphasizes mathematics and science. The only reason why Malaysia doesn't suffer so much is because the people here are lazier than other SEAs and hence aren't as stressed.

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#37 YoungFlitz
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Honestly I never knew Japan had a huge suicide rate.
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#38 Mousetaches
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

BluRayHiDef

This post is gold; never, ever change

It was a joke.

I feel like this conversation should end with: THEN WHO WAS PHONE?!
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How can they make it past 30 when they're dead?

taj7575

huh?

Both of you are confusing me :lol:. What he said is that it's the number one cause of death for people below 30, and you said probably most people die after 30 (?).

I was talking about overall death rate
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#40 shadowkiller11
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Isn't there a declining birth rate in Japan too? Both do not go well together...Flame_Blade88
The reason for that is that they were publicised for being over populated if i remember correctly. If I were to base it on that Japanese movie suicide club I would have no idea.
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I don't spend much time at all thinking about suicide tbh. I don't really know why, but I just don't care about the issue. If people want to die, then let them...end of story. I have no sympathy for them, but I also don't look down on them. IMO, people have a right to life and death. As for Japan as a whole: Their social and cultural norms have been their greatest strength and weakness. Though the suicide rate is probably going to go through the roof. They are in really bad shape economically (far worse than most any country when it comes to debt and spending per GDP). When the s*** hits the fan (so to speak), many people will be dealing with some tough times. They do not seem to deal with such things very well. Though a great deal of their debt is due to social programs...perhaps they will see it as their duty to help with the problem (less people)
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#42 CHOASXIII
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I think they need to realize the problem, which is their society and deal with it.

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#43 arad96
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I didn't even know that they had a high suicide rate.:P I guess they have hard lives.

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Knowing their work hierarchies and work expectations, I'd expect the suicide rates to be high. While I was over there I never personally witnessed one, but I heard of many instances of people jumping in front of the trains close to where I lived. The only big apartment complex in my town was also a "popular" spot for suicides. Jumping off that apartment complex was so common that the ambulances wouldn't even put on their lights or sirens when they got calls over there.

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#46 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

Knowing their work hierarchies and work expectations, I'd expect the suicide rates to be high. While I was over there I never personally witnessed one, but I heard of many instances of people jumping in front of the trains close to where I lived. The only big apartment complex in my town was also a "popular" spot for suicides. Jumping off that apartment complex was so common that the ambulances wouldn't even put on their lights or sirens when they got calls over there.

BluRayHiDef

どのぐらい日本に居たのか?。なんで言っていた?。

Exactly. I also hear that people over there commit suicide for other reasons (beyond job/school stress and finances). Even for simple things like disputes with roommates/lovers...or even smaller things like diseases, disorders, and infections
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#47 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

Knowing their work hierarchies and work expectations, I'd expect the suicide rates to be high. While I was over there I never personally witnessed one, but I heard of many instances of people jumping in front of the trains close to where I lived. The only big apartment complex in my town was also a "popular" spot for suicides. Jumping off that apartment complex was so common that the ambulances wouldn't even put on their lights or sirens when they got calls over there.

rawsavon

どのぐらい日本に居たのか?。なんで言っていた?。

Exactly...

I don't think you understand what that says. Your response isn't appropriate for that post.

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#48 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

どのぐらい日本に居たのか?。なんで言っていた?。

BluRayHiDef

Exactly...

I don't think you understand what that says. Your response isn't appropriate for that post.

Seemed spot on given the situation at hand
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#49 Colin1192
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

どのぐらい日本に居たのか?。なんで言っていた?。

BluRayHiDef

Exactly...

I don't think you understand what that says. Your response isn't appropriate for that post.

how long were you in japan. And then something else

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#50 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

どのぐらい日本に居たのか?。なんで言っていた?。

BluRayHiDef

Exactly...

I don't think you understand what that says. Your response isn't appropriate for that post.

Though I must say that it would have been easier to follow this thread had you followed the TOU