Please Vote For REAL CHANGE on Nov. 4th Vote Obama-Biden

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#1 WPack911
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We need change in the US, we need someone who can lead us into the future instead relying on the failed ideals and policies of these past 8 years. Senator Barack Obama is that person, together with Senator Joe Biden Barack Obama can lead the US back to the world leader we once were, a country where we are respected and even loved around the world.

One that looks out for the working people by giving them the tax cuts they have earned through years of hard work, while also creating millions of jobs having the new non-gas and oil driven cars of the future researched, tested, and build right in the USA.

A plan to bring our troops home in a 16 month period that not only has them come home from Iraq, but leaves Iraq in a state where it can both self govern and self protect itself from threats, while focusing our military service men and women that want to serve and protect on the real terrorists that attacked us on 9/11, including capturing or killing Osama Bin Laden.

A Reformed Health Care system for everyone that let's you make health care decisions with your doctor and drop's health care costs by as much as $2,500 a year.

These are just some of some of the things an Obama-Biden governed country can do for you and me in the years to come given you give them the opportunity to with your vote. So on November 4th 2008 vote for REAL CHANGE, Vote Obama-Biden. Thank you for reading.

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Andrew P. (WPack911)

For More on the Obama-Biden Campaign and Policies please go to: http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

(I am not affiliated with the Obama-Biden 08 campaign or any other organization political or otherwise. I am just a concerned voter and citizen of the USA.)
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k..but only because you said please.
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k

but when you say REAL CHANGE does that garuntee EA will stop making bad games & i wont accidentally urinate when i speak to pretty gurlys?

cuz if it does, im gonna go assasinate McCain rite now

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#4 WPack911
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Well it is the magic word after all, how could I not say it? :D
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#5 WPack911
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k

but when you say REAL CHANGE does that garuntee EA will stop making bad games & i wont accidentally urinate when i speak to pretty gurlys?

cuz if it does, im gonna go assasinate McCain rite now

uberbra

I wish it did friend, I wish it did. However with a better economy maybe EA could take a few more chances and we will get more games like Mirror's Edge and less Madden 'Insert year here', you never know. The girly pee problem is all up to you though sorry.

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#6 antiredcap
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I fear change, but thanks anyway!!
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#7 WPack911
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Please sign or pledge your support if you are going to vote for the Obama-Biden ticket for CHANGE.
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#8 MoonMarvel
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I would but I don't hate America. I'll stick with McCain-Palin.

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#9 stupiddk
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There is good change, then there is bad change. REAL CHANGE = BAD CHANGE. Please don't vote Obama-Biden on November 4th 2008.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhh........ okay.
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Im voting for Obama, and I admire your effort. But unfortunately this thread will not alter views. Be prepared to get insulted by mostly people that cant rationally defend their viewpoint.

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#12 WPack911
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Im voting for Obama, and I admire your effort. But unfortunately this thread will not alter views. Be prepared to get insulted by mostly people that cant rationally defend their viewpoint.

warbmxjohn

I am more then prepared, thank you for your support for Obama-Biden, together we will change this country for the better.:)

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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

Im voting for Obama, and I admire your effort. But unfortunately this thread will not alter views. Be prepared to get insulted by mostly people that cant rationally defend their viewpoint.

WPack911

I am more then prepared, thank you for your support for Obama-Biden, together we will change this country for the better.:)

I sure hope so :) I have had some drawn out arguments in the past few days here where people grossly oversimplify the issues or just ignore them in some vain effort to glorify smear campaign tactics. Its sad. :?
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#14 WPack911
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[QUOTE="WPack911"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

Im voting for Obama, and I admire your effort. But unfortunately this thread will not alter views. Be prepared to get insulted by mostly people that cant rationally defend their viewpoint.

warbmxjohn

I am more then prepared, thank you for your support for Obama-Biden, together we will change this country for the better.:)

I sure hope so :) I have had some drawn out arguments in the past few days here where people grossly oversimplify the issues or just ignore them in some vain effort to glorify smear campaign tactics. Its sad. :?

It's the sad reality of how politics have been done for far too long, it's one of the things the Sen. Obama has been able to show just how different and refreshing a canidate he really is on. Just look at how the polls are looking right now and that should give you all the Hope you need to keep believing in change.

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Change. So many politicians promise it. Few if any deliver. What actual guarantee is there that Obama will be any different?

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Yeah like lobbying, I can't believe thats even mildly acceptable. Not to mention all the candidates and voters that disregard that separation of church and state is one of the fundamental reasons America even fought for independence.
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Change. So many politicians promise it. Few if any actually deliver. What actual guarantee is that that Obama will be any different?

ThePlothole
One of my favorite Obama lines "We are not a collection of red and blue states, we are the United States of America" hes trying to eradicate the bipartisan separation that has divided this nation for far too long. That alone is a major difference in campaign where generally politicians will pander to their specific party and further increase the separation that plagues this nation. Theres an exapmle of change already.
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#18 WPack911
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Change. So many politicians promise it. Few if any deliver. What actual guarantee is there that Obama will be any different?

ThePlothole

Watch him speak, how he truly speaks from the heart, I would be surprised if you are not moved to the point that you can trust the man then. I suggest the Democratic Convention speech or any of his rally speeches even.

Here's many video's for you, including the convention speech:

http://www.barackobama.com/tv/

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Change. So many politicians promise it. Few if any deliver. What actual guarantee is there that Obama will be any different?

ThePlothole

He isn't, he is worse than most. Look at his attack ads, he said he wouldn't do that and now look. Oh and learn Spanish, under Obama you will need it.

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How much is he paying you?
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

Change. So many politicians promise it. Few if any deliver. What actual guarantee is there that Obama will be any different?

WPack911

Watch him speak, how he truly speaks from the heart, I would be surprised if you are not moved to the point that you can trust the man then. I suggest the Democratic Convention speech or any of his rally speeches even.

Here's many video's for you, including the convention speech:

http://www.barackobama.com/tv/

Actions speak louder than words my friend. ;)

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How much is he paying you?SolidSnake35

Whatever it is he should double it.

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#25 WPack911
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[QUOTE="WPack911"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

Change. So many politicians promise it. Few if any deliver. What actual guarantee is there that Obama will be any different?

MoonMarvel

Watch him speak, how he truly speaks from the heart, I would be surprised if you are not moved to the point that you can trust the man then. I suggest the Democratic Convention speech or any of his rally speeches even.

Here's many video's for you, including the convention speech:

http://www.barackobama.com/tv/

Actions speak louder than words my friend. ;)

I know they do, and the actions of the republican led white house these past 8 years have been some of the worst ever taken against the people of this country not to mention the rest of the world. 90% of those actions were supported by Sen. McCain, we can't afford 4 more years of the same, that's why a vote for Sen. Obama is a vote for the change we need.

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#26 WPack911
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How much is he paying you?SolidSnake35

Nothing, I am completely not affiliated with the Obama-Biden campaign like I clearly stated at the bottom of my first post, I mealy am trying to get the word out to voters to vote for change.

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I'd vote for Obama if I was American.
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#28 WPack911
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I'd vote for Obama if I was American.pinneyapple

Glad to hear he has your support even if he can't have your vote.:)

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I'd vote for Obama if I was American.pinneyapple

² that

I'm from Europe and I think most of Europe supports Obama.

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[QUOTE="pinneyapple"]I'd vote for Obama if I was American.knight-k

² that

I'm from Europe and I think most of Europe supports Obama.

Because the patriotism and fear has not blinded your eyes. That alone is enough of a reason to vote for Obama.
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#31 WPack911
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[QUOTE="pinneyapple"]I'd vote for Obama if I was American.knight-k

² that

I'm from Europe and I think most of Europe supports Obama.

Great to hear, love the Gats Avatar BTW.

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Sorry OP, but your reasons for picking obama are just wrong. Any fool who knows something about american economy right now knows that either the tax has to increase, or america needs even more loans. The american government is now 11 trillion dollars in debt. Do you really think that can be paid back while having tax cuts AND have cheaper healthcare? The only reason there haven't been increases in tax yet is because of the elections.

I wouldn't know what to vote anymore if I were living in america. Like south park puts it, it's between a douche and a turd.

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#33 NaiKoN9293
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please dont vote for the guys that called obama a terrorist and a pedophile. do you really want liars like that in charge of your country?
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Take a guess if I will listen to you.
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Sorry OP, but your reasons for picking obama are just wrong. Any fool who knows something about american economy right now knows that either the tax has to increase, or america needs even more loans. The american government is now 11 trillion dollars in debt. Do you really think that can be paid back while having tax cuts AND have cheaper healthcare? The only reason there haven't been increases in tax yet is because of the elections.

I wouldn't know what to vote anymore if I were living in america. Like south park puts it, it's between a douche and a turd.

11Marcel

In his plan he raises taxes on the wealthy (people that make over $250,000 a year) and lowers it for the other 95% of the US, therefore balancing that out.

To the one guy calling Obama a pedofile you sir need to get some facts and stop smearing random untrue crap about people, it's one thing to not support somebody it's another thing to spread unproven and not even reported claims about someone.

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#36 GettingTired
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No thanks. While I wanted to believe his "Change" campaign, the fact that he voted in favor the FISA bill and the Bailout Bill say otherwise. Protecting companies who violated the rights of the citizens and bailiing out rich corporate owners doesn't seem like much change to me.
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[QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Sorry OP, but your reasons for picking obama are just wrong. Any fool who knows something about american economy right now knows that either the tax has to increase, or america needs even more loans. The american government is now 11 trillion dollars in debt. Do you really think that can be paid back while having tax cuts AND have cheaper healthcare? The only reason there haven't been increases in tax yet is because of the elections.

I wouldn't know what to vote anymore if I were living in america. Like south park puts it, it's between a douche and a turd.

WPack911

In his plan he raises taxes on the wealthy (people that make over $250,000 a year) and lowers it for the other 95% of the US, therefore balancing that out.

To the one guy calling Obama a pedofile you sir need to get some facts and stop smearing random untrue crap about people, it's one thing to not support somebody it's another thing to spread unproven and not even reported claims about someone.

I don't like redistribution of wealth.

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I would vote Obama-Biden, but I'm only 15. I'll have to wait until next election.
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[QUOTE="pinneyapple"]I'd vote for Obama if I was American.knight-k

² that

I'm from Europe and I think most of Europe supports Obama.

Most Canadains want Obama too, alot of international students ive talked to also want Obama to win, but none of there votes count.

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#40 ferrari2001
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hmm, Real change? Really, Yea Larger government=good :roll: oh yea wait it doesn't. Don't hurt America by Voting Obama, How bout we vote McCain coast through the Next 4 years with a republican pres, and dem congress, until we get a good canidate for President. Thanks but no thanks, I love America.
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="WPack911"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

Change. So many politicians promise it. Few if any deliver. What actual guarantee is there that Obama will be any different?

WPack911

Watch him speak, how he truly speaks from the heart, I would be surprised if you are not moved to the point that you can trust the man then. I suggest the Democratic Convention speech or any of his rally speeches even.

Here's many video's for you, including the convention speech:

http://www.barackobama.com/tv/

Actions speak louder than words my friend. ;)

I know they do, and the actions of the republican led white house these past 8 years have been some of the worst ever taken against the people of this country not to mention the rest of the world. 90% of those actions were supported by Sen. McCain, we can't afford 4 more years of the same, that's why a vote for Sen. Obama is a vote for the change we need.

woh playing the I have no idea how party politics works card again... Gee I wish people were more educated. Sen. Obama voted along Party lines almost if not more than Sen. McCain did, so Technically he voted worse than McCain. Just saying.

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[QUOTE="WPack911"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Sorry OP, but your reasons for picking obama are just wrong. Any fool who knows something about american economy right now knows that either the tax has to increase, or america needs even more loans. The american government is now 11 trillion dollars in debt. Do you really think that can be paid back while having tax cuts AND have cheaper healthcare? The only reason there haven't been increases in tax yet is because of the elections.

I wouldn't know what to vote anymore if I were living in america. Like south park puts it, it's between a douche and a turd.

SAURON221

In his plan he raises taxes on the wealthy (people that make over $250,000 a year) and lowers it for the other 95% of the US, therefore balancing that out.

To the one guy calling Obama a pedofile you sir need to get some facts and stop smearing random untrue crap about people, it's one thing to not support somebody it's another thing to spread unproven and not even reported claims about someone.

I don't like redistribution of wealth.

So you favor people being excessively wealthy over the survival of our nation?
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#43 ferrari2001
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[QUOTE="SAURON221"][QUOTE="WPack911"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Sorry OP, but your reasons for picking obama are just wrong. Any fool who knows something about american economy right now knows that either the tax has to increase, or america needs even more loans. The american government is now 11 trillion dollars in debt. Do you really think that can be paid back while having tax cuts AND have cheaper healthcare? The only reason there haven't been increases in tax yet is because of the elections.

I wouldn't know what to vote anymore if I were living in america. Like south park puts it, it's between a douche and a turd.

warbmxjohn

In his plan he raises taxes on the wealthy (people that make over $250,000 a year) and lowers it for the other 95% of the US, therefore balancing that out.

To the one guy calling Obama a pedofile you sir need to get some facts and stop smearing random untrue crap about people, it's one thing to not support somebody it's another thing to spread unproven and not even reported claims about someone.

I don't like redistribution of wealth.

So you favor people being excessively wealthy over the survival of our nation?

He's says he's not going to raise everyone else's taxes, but to support Over 1 Trillion dollars in New project there's no way that's enough, unless he plans in driving all those people out of buisness... Which would be bad. He'll have to raise everyone else's taxes, or he won't do any of the things he promised. So either way we are screwed with Obama.

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#44 warbmxjohn
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="SAURON221"][QUOTE="WPack911"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

Sorry OP, but your reasons for picking obama are just wrong. Any fool who knows something about american economy right now knows that either the tax has to increase, or america needs even more loans. The american government is now 11 trillion dollars in debt. Do you really think that can be paid back while having tax cuts AND have cheaper healthcare? The only reason there haven't been increases in tax yet is because of the elections.

I wouldn't know what to vote anymore if I were living in america. Like south park puts it, it's between a douche and a turd.

ferrari2001

In his plan he raises taxes on the wealthy (people that make over $250,000 a year) and lowers it for the other 95% of the US, therefore balancing that out.

To the one guy calling Obama a pedofile you sir need to get some facts and stop smearing random untrue crap about people, it's one thing to not support somebody it's another thing to spread unproven and not even reported claims about someone.

I don't like redistribution of wealth.

So you favor people being excessively wealthy over the survival of our nation?

He's says he's not going to raise everyone else's taxes, but to support Over 1 Trillion dollars in New project there's no way that's enough, unless he plans in driving all those people out of buisness... Which would be bad. He'll have to raise everyone else's taxes, or he won't do any of the things he promised. So either way we are screwed with Obama.

Nice try, but this country needs to participate in those programs, this country needs to make renewable energy a reality and that research isn't free. This country needs to create new jobs that also is not free. Talk about tax money allocation and spending proposals when McCain wants to keep spending it in an entirely unnecessary war. So either way, your view on the complexity of our nations issues is painfully narrow. Do you have any idea how much capital (money) is used by our nation? Do you realize how far in debt our country is already by making bombs and weapons, but its irrational to spend money on something that can actually benefit this nation? Puhlease.
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Just like you and/or your parents have a line of credit, so does our nation. Do people really think that the nation has to pay up front for research? Seriously.
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Does this count as spam?
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Does this count as spam?Bloodbath_87
Nah... But this does ;)

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So you favor people being excessively wealthy over the survival of our nation?
warbmxjohn

How is $250,000/year excessively wealthy?

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I want to vote for Palin.
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]So you favor people being excessively wealthy over the survival of our nation?
gasmaskman

How is $250,000/year excessively wealthy?

When the majority of the nation can't buy gas to get to work or pay their morgage putting our country on a potential threshold of imminent failure people dont need three houses and 15 cars.