POLL: Are you for or against human cloning?

its somewhat good in a way where we could make the perfect solider and use an army of them instead of regular innocent people dieing from warleonard88

But but buh tehy are still living!!

Someone would think that cruel, to raise people just for war. I mean, I don't think it's very nice. It should be a choice if you want to fight for your country, and it is(for no, thank God).

[QUOTE="leonard88"]its somewhat good in a way where we could make the perfect solider and use an army of them instead of regular innocent people dieing from wartobenator

But but buh tehy are still living!!

Someone would think that cruel, to raise people just for war. I mean, I don't think it's very nice. It should be a choice if you want to fight for your country, and it is(for no, thank God).

Yeah, that would be like in the Matrix...

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[QUOTE="leonard88"]its somewhat good in a way where we could make the perfect solider and use an army of them instead of regular innocent people dieing from warLord__Darkstorn

But but buh tehy are still living!!

Someone would think that cruel, to raise people just for war. I mean, I don't think it's very nice. It should be a choice if you want to fight for your country, and it is(for no, thank God).

Yeah, that would be like in the Matrix...

yeah programed people with no emotion or thought the orginal person they cloned would live but not the clones i mean come would people really actually wanna die for their country

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[QUOTE="leonard88"]its somewhat good in a way where we could make the perfect solider and use an army of them instead of regular innocent people dieing from warleonard88

But but buh tehy are still living!!

Someone would think that cruel, to raise people just for war. I mean, I don't think it's very nice. It should be a choice if you want to fight for your country, and it is(for no, thank God).

Yeah, that would be like in the Matrix...

yeah programed people with no emotion or thought the orginal person they cloned would live but not the clones i mean come would people really actually wanna die for their country

That would be really difficult to do, even if they could clone people in the first place. And yeah, I actually know a few people that want to sacrifice their lives for this nation. They wouldn't mind risking and living, but they also actually do find glory in dying for their country and for freedom.

you should only be able to clone really awsome people. im mean really really awsome

I am against cloning. Too many chances for unexpected consequences.

I have to admit that I find the possibility of cloning prehistoric humans fascinating, though.

Im against it.. its just.. not right. Those "clones" don't have souls.Rattlesnake_8

But who says we do either? We could just be a body powered by organs and a complex brain, but I try not to think it's like that.

Anyways, it may look like I'm for cloning, but I'm 100% against it. It's just not right.

Im against it.. its just.. not right. Those "clones" don't have souls.Rattlesnake_8

Full human cloning....not so sure because in the end they would end up being abused such as slave labor and like the Island , for their organs.SaintLeonidas

I have a bit more faith in society than that... but I agree, I'm not really for full human cloning. However, the field does show promise in terms of organ replacement.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Full human cloning....not so sure because in the end they would end up being abused such as slave labor and like the Island , for their organs.Luncbox1

I have a bit more faith in society than that... but I agree, I'm not really for full human cloning. However, the field does show promise in terms of organ replacement.

Never for actually creating a person. Cloning healthy organs for sick people, on the other hand, would be fine by me.famicommander

True. But how far would you be okay with. What if you cloned an entire person, then removed their brain and replaced it with the brain of the dying progenator. (Assuming of course that the clone is a blank slate).

I'm all for it. The clones would be great for medical research and weapon testing.Mayhem48

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Never for actually creating a person. Cloning healthy organs for sick people, on the other hand, would be fine by me.Tylendal

True. But how far would you be okay with. What if you cloned an entire person, then removed their brain and replaced it with the brain of the dying progenator. (Assuming of course that the clone is a blank slate).

Well of course that would be wrong. Cloning someone for the purpose of dieing is just creeped. But putting someone else's brain in you wouldn't work. Your conciousness would be lost. Essentially, you would be lost and a new person would inhabit your body (the person who was cloned to replace your brain)

[QUOTE="Mayhem48"]I'm all for it. The clones would be great for medical research and weapon testing.foxhound_fox

I'm sure some fundamentalist christians would disagree. They'd probably argue that "they're not god's creations" or something like that.

I'm sure some fundamentalist christians would disagree. They'd probably argue that "they're not god's creations" or something like that. Luncbox1

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"]I'm sure some fundamentalist christians would disagree. They'd probably argue that "they're not god's creations" or something like that. foxhound_fox

I think not, we cant give them souls, they are just bags of flesh if you believe in that kind of thing. Then to use them for organ replacement, or breed them for certain jobs like military would be very wrong so i say nay.

[QUOTE="leonard88"]its somewhat good in a way where we could make the perfect solider and use an army of them instead of regular innocent people dieing from wartobenator

But but buh tehy are still living!!

Someone would think that cruel, to raise people just for war. I mean, I don't think it's very nice. It should be a choice if you want to fight for your country, and it is(for no, thank God).

Yeah then we get into clone wars and Kurt Russel " Soldier " type stuff because theres not point in cloning soldiers if countries are just mass producing them faster then they are dieing which is something short of genocide.

I'm all for human cloning. Say that you and your wife can't conceie a child because your sperm doesn't work. So instead, they clone you, implant your clone into your wife's uterus, and oila. Now you hae a child.

What's wrong with that?

Against it until it can be proven to not cause any genetic problems.foxhound_fox

I'm against it RIGHT NOW for that same reason. Hoeer, I'm assumin g that that's something that can be fixed as technology adances.

I'm all for human cloning. Say that you and your wife can't conceie a child because your sperm doesn't work. So instead, they clone you, implant your clone into your wife's uterus, and oila. Now you hae a child.

What's wrong with that?

MrGeezer

but that's not a child... that's you. Like having a child that also happens to be your identical twin. I'm sure there are better ways to accomplish this, like genetically modify the sperm so it does work.

Im against it.. its just.. not right. Those "clones" don't have souls.Rattlesnake_8

Identical twins are clones. How can you tell which one has a soul and which one is Satan's pet?

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I'm all for human cloning. Say that you and your wife can't conceie a child because your sperm doesn't work. So instead, they clone you, implant your clone into your wife's uterus, and oila. Now you hae a child.

What's wrong with that?

Luncbox1

but that's not a child... that's you. Like having a child that also happens to be your identical twin. I'm sure there are better ways to accomplish this, like genetically modify the sperm so it does work.

So basically you're saying that identical twins are the same person?

really, how the bloody HELL is my clone ME?

I think not, we cant give them souls, they are just bags of flesh if you believe in that kind of thing. Then to use them for organ replacement, or breed them for certain jobs like military would be very wrong so i say nay.Montaya

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

I'm all for human cloning. Say that you and your wife can't conceie a child because your sperm doesn't work. So instead, they clone you, implant your clone into your wife's uterus, and oila. Now you hae a child.

What's wrong with that?

MrGeezer

but that's not a child... that's you. Like having a child that also happens to be your identical twin. I'm sure there are better ways to accomplish this, like genetically modify the sperm so it does work.

So basically you're saying that identical twins are the same person?

really, how the bloody HELL is my clone ME?

Well of course it's not you, there just isn't any better way for me to describe it. And like I said, it would probably be easier to just insert the DNA from the sperm into the egg and put it in the uterus. They're already doing that, so unless the man is born without sperm to begin with I can't see cloning being necessary in this situation.

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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Full human cloning....not so sure because in the end they would end up being abused such as slave labor and like the Island , for their organs.carrot-cake

I have a bit more faith in society than that... but I agree, I'm not really for full human cloning. However, the field does show promise in terms of organ replacement.

Come on, dude. Businesses here can't een legally kick you out of the store because you're black. How the **** is someone gonna get away with keeping slaes and cutting them up just because that person is a clone?

[QUOTE="Montaya"]I think not, we cant give them souls, they are just bags of flesh if you believe in that kind of thing. Then to use them for organ replacement, or breed them for certain jobs like military would be very wrong so i say nay.foxhound_fox

Ya thats why i say if you believe in that kind of thing. But still there would be something eerie about a clone if i were to meet one.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Montaya"]I think not, we cant give them souls, they are just bags of flesh if you believe in that kind of thing. Then to use them for organ replacement, or breed them for certain jobs like military would be very wrong so i say nay.Montaya

Ya thats why i say if you believe in that kind of thing. But still there would be something eerie about a clone if i were to meet one.

It's funny...I remember when people were still discussing whether or not test tube babies had souls.

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[QUOTE="famicommander"]Never for actually creating a person. Cloning healthy organs for sick people, on the other hand, would be fine by me.Luncbox1

True. But how far would you be okay with. What if you cloned an entire person, then removed their brain and replaced it with the brain of the dying progenator. (Assuming of course that the clone is a blank slate).

Well of course that would be wrong. Cloning someone for the purpose of dieing is just creeped. But putting someone else's brain in you wouldn't work. Your conciousness would be lost. Essentially, you would be lost and a new person would inhabit your body (the person who was cloned to replace your brain)

I meant remove the clones brain, assuming of course that the clone is a blank slate. If someone is dying of some sort of disease, they could clone them, and just save their brain, so they're given a new body.

Ya thats why i say if you believe in that kind of thing. But still there would be something eerie about a clone if i were to meet one. Montaya

I meant remove the clones brain, assuming of course that the clone is a blank slate. If someone is dying of some sort of disease, they could clone them, and just save their brain, so they're given a new body.

Tylendal

Oh, I see. It's still creeped. :P

For.

I want a spare body. Hopefully they'll be able to transplant my brain eventually.

[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]Im against it.. its just.. not right. Those "clones" don't have souls.MrGeezer

Identical twins are clones. How can you tell which one has a soul and which one is Satan's pet?

Holy water, Pez, and a karaoke machine. :wink:

It really depends. I mean, as people have said before, we could use clones to create an army and not have to worry about others dying. Basically like in Star Wars. Also, if we could clone specific body parts (ex. livers and hearts) to be used in surgery for other people, that would be very beneficial, rather than taking someone elses.Ghost_702

An army of clones? Clones are people too, Mmkay?

Full human cloning....not so sure because in the end they would end up being abused such as slave labor and like the Island , for their organs.SaintLeonidas

Ack! I haven't watched that movie yet!

Well, the whole notion of having growing a full human just for their parts (which is an all too common theme in scifi these days) is wrong. In reality what scientists are trying to do is simply grow the organ, not a whole being.