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#1 Marx_Brother
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POLL!

I voted to disagree with it.

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#3 Bourbons3
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Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.
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I'm not sure about it. I think it could be fine in some instances, but not so in others.
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#5 Marx_Brother
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Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Bourbons3

I wouldn't have liked to have been adopted and brought up by a gay couple.... There's no way.

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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Marx_Brother

I wouldn't have liked to have been adopted and brought up by a gay couple.... There's no way.

So inter-racial adoption is bad?
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#7 Ryeferd
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homosexuals are not second class citizens. they should be allowed to do anything the rest of us can do, including getting married, and adopting children.

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#8 BadAndy642
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I disagree.  If they want children, then they should have a partner of the opposite sex.
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#9 Warfust
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homosexuals are not second class citizens. they should be allowed to do anything the rest of us can do, including getting married, and adopting children.

Ryeferd
I completely agree. And being gay (or any other minority group) does not make you a bad parent or roll model.
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#10 Bourbons3
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I disagree. If they want children, then they should have a partner of the opposite sex.BadAndy642
What about women who cant have children? Should they be banned from adopting and just told to go get a good uterus?
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Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Bourbons3
i know but....kid is gonna have to go through hell throught most of his life in school....which is a huge part... constantly getting made fun of, and harrassed, and have your parents always being joked about isnt right....and its not fair to the kid, he didnt choose that..... i just dont think its right at the moment....maybe when being gay becomes more "acceptable"
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#13 thenarkallaptar
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Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.

On another thought.

If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Bourbons3

I wouldn't have liked to have been adopted and brought up by a gay couple.... There's no way.

So inter-racial adoption is bad?

I don't see how that has anything to do with this. But still it should be allowed. There's no evidence that a child would have any trouble being raised by two people of the same sex. Does anyone have a problem with a child being raised by a single parent? Because that would be pretty much the same situation that a child being raised by a gay couple would be in.
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Why not? Straight couples can be messed up too. Last year in Michigan some poor kid was murdered by his adoptive mom and dad. So had he been adopted by anyone else, including a gay couple, he would still be alive. The point is, gay or straight, there are good and bad parents. I have a family memeber who is gay and he has two sons who are both married with children.
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.senecaboyer88
i know but....kid is gonna have to go through hell throught most of his life in school....which is a huge part... constantly getting made fun of, and harrassed, and have your parents always being joked about isnt right....and its not fair to the kid, he didnt choose that..... i just dont think its right at the moment....maybe when being gay becomes more "acceptable"

The couple should have to pay for other people's ignorance...
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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Bourbons3

I wouldn't have liked to have been adopted and brought up by a gay couple.... There's no way.

So inter-racial adoption is bad?

No, inter-racial man and woman adoption isn't bad.

I'm not against homoseuxality, but I think adopting a kid is going too far....

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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Marx_Brother

I wouldn't have liked to have been adopted and brought up by a gay couple.... There's no way.

So inter-racial adoption is bad?

No, inter-racial man and woman adoption isn't bad.

I'm not against homoseuxality, but I think adopting a kid is going too far....

Of course, giving them rights is crossing the line. How stupid of me.
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Where's the "meh" choice?
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[QUOTE="senecaboyer88"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Bourbons3
i know but....kid is gonna have to go through hell throught most of his life in school....which is a huge part... constantly getting made fun of, and harrassed, and have your parents always being joked about isnt right....and its not fair to the kid, he didnt choose that..... i just dont think its right at the moment....maybe when being gay becomes more "acceptable"

The couple should have to pay for other people's ignorance...

i guess so....it would be selfish to do that to some kid whos already emotionally messed up enough because the parents disowned him....or parents are dead....thats hard enough to live with...
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If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. 
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Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.

On another thought.

If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
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hehe, I see you have been fed the normal line. Just cause we evolved from a common ancester does not mean we "are like them". Nor does it mean that the conditions would be right for such behavior and with such a constrained population that you would be able to view it by your limited viewing of a select group. (AKA, you at the zoo once in awhile).
[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.senecaboyer88
i know but....kid is gonna have to go through hell throught most of his life in school....which is a huge part... constantly getting made fun of, and harrassed, and have your parents always being joked about isnt right....and its not fair to the kid, he didnt choose that..... i just dont think its right at the moment....maybe when being gay becomes more "acceptable"

And being made fun of because you don't have a parent, or you are stuck living in an orphanage in a 3rd world slum, is SO much better....
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If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. thenarkallaptar
So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?
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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Bourbons3

I wouldn't have liked to have been adopted and brought up by a gay couple.... There's no way.

So inter-racial adoption is bad?

No, inter-racial man and woman adoption isn't bad.

I'm not against homoseuxality, but I think adopting a kid is going too far....

Of course, giving them rights is crossing the line. How stupid of me.

Yes it was stupid of you. I cringe to think of two gays bringing up a child...

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[QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Bourbons3
So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

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There are many children without a family and however they find a family I am fine with that. If two gay or lesbian parents want to adopt a child, that is great. They have to understand that the child will not be the same as Billy or Sally who has a mother and father and it will be very difficult when he or she grows up and starts getting teased or asked why they have two fathers or mothers. 
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Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.

On another thought.

If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
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homosexuals are not second class citizens. they should be allowed to do anything the rest of us can do, including getting married, and adopting children.

Ryeferd
exactly.
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Marx_Brother

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?
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[QUOTE="BadAndy642"]I disagree. If they want children, then they should have a partner of the opposite sex.Bourbons3
What about women who cant have children? Should they be banned from adopting and just told to go get a good uterus?

Honestly, why argue with everyone's opinion that is not your own.  I have the right to believe that is wrong and I don't believe that it should be allowed just like you have the right to believe that it is ok.  So I stand by my opinion and I do believe that a women that can't have a baby due to reproduction problems can adopt, but in my opinion I think that being gay is still a choice, and you have to accept parts of what you choice gives you.  Just like that I could become a drug abuser and lose my family.  It is part of the territory.

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To many kids without homes to worry about who adopts them as long as they love the child.
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Why disagree? Is there any evidence that gay couple make inferior parents?
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Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.

On another thought.

If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
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[QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Bourbons3
So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

I know a family who can't have kids, so they adopted one. They are awesome parents. When their kid goes to school they won't be teased because they have a "normal" family that could reproduce but just can't. A gay couple can't reproduce. It just won't work. There is probably nothing wrong with their bodies. Two male animals in nature won't try to reproduce. They will find a female. Why is it so hard to understand that their is just something not right about the homosexual lifestyle.
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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Bourbons3

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?

Stop trying to throw racial points into this argument it doesn't have anything to do with what anyone is arguing about.
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. thenarkallaptar
So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

I know a family who can't have kids, so they adopted one. They are awesome parents. When their kid goes to school they won't be teased because they have a "normal" family that could reproduce but just can't. A gay couple can't reproduce. It just won't work. There is probably nothing wrong with their bodies. Two male animals in nature won't try to reproduce. They will find a female. Why is it so hard to understand that their is just something not right about the homosexual lifestyle.

They dont always: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Bourbons3

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?

When you shout "Dad!" you should only get one reply.

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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. ProudLarry

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?

Stop trying to throw racial points into this argument it doesn't have anything to do with what anyone is arguing about.

You didnt quote anything mentioning race
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If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. thenarkallaptar
Thanks for the biology lesson. Now, think about this. If genetics determine sex of an individual, is sex only skin deep? IE, you have girl or boy parts so you are one or the other. Or, is sex more of a state of being? IE, a person's brain chemistry is geared to one sexual persuasion or the other regardless of reproductive organs. The genetics of our bodies determines who we are, so why is it hard to believe that a male could have the brain chemistry of a woman? I'm not calling gay people mutants, but distinct as people who have two different colored eyes.
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Marx_Brother

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?

When you shout "Dad!" you should only get one reply.

*visions of Jerry Springer* :P
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homosexuals are not second class citizens. they should be allowed to do anything the rest of us can do, including getting married, and adopting children.

Ryeferd

Agreed

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[QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Bourbons3

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?

Stop trying to throw racial points into this argument it doesn't have anything to do with what anyone is arguing about.

You didnt quote anything mentioning race

It doesn't matter... that is what you were talking about earlier.

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[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. cradleOFfilth37

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?

When you shout "Dad!" you should only get one reply.

I think you are a homophobe.....and possibly a dillusional jesus-lover.

Wrong.

I am not a homophobe, I just do not think gays should adopt... and I am not a christian, I am an atheist.

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#46 Warfust
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Marx_Brother

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?

When you shout "Dad!" you should only get one reply.

Why? What if you get no answer, and one of your Mom's asks what you are shouting about? Open that mind up a bit, the world is far larger than that narrow view you have with the blinders on.
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#47 MadDogm16
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in my opinion being gay is not acceptable, and not good for a child.
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#48 ProudLarry
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I'd like to reiterate a point that I made before: Does anyone who is against gay couples adopting have any problems with single parents raising children? Or single women getting artificially inseminated? In both cases you're only going to have one sex raising the child. How is this any different than if a gay couple adopts?
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#49 cradleOFfilth37
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[QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. Marx_Brother

So what about people who cant have children? Are they less human just like gay people apparently are?

That's not the point, it is still man and women and it's fine.

It is the point. This tunnel vision that a man and a woman is the only accepting form of relationship is what is causing this problem, and a big part of this is the fact that they can have children. People go on and on about it, and yet who lives just to have children?

When you shout "Dad!" you should only get one reply.

I think you are a homophobe.....and possibly a dillusional jesus-lover.

Wrong.

I am not a homophobe, I just do not think gays should adopt

Well do you think gays are second class citizens?

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#50 MadDogm16
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Homosexuality is a perversion of nature, people were meant for that.