(POLL) g@y adoption

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

[QUOTE="FrozeN__54"]I seriously disagree... I wouldn't want to have a gay couple as parents :|Marx_Brother

Yes....we've gone over this in this thread already....the name for that is homophobia which makes you a bigot.

This thread has room for two opinions, those who disagree with gay adoption and those who agree with it. Maybe you should respect the thoughts of others, so you are the bigot.

I should respect racist opinions too?

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

xaos

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

I completely disagree with mainland europe banning Nazi symbols and holocaust denial... it really is pathetic.

[QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.

On another thought.

If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
buckfush311

If everyone in the world was gay the whole human race would die out. Humans we meant to reproduce with people of the opposite sex. thenarkallaptar

Oh yeah, its an epidemic.  A desease.

Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.

On another thought.

If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
thenarkallaptar

[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

[QUOTE="FrozeN__54"]I seriously disagree... I wouldn't want to have a gay couple as parents :|ithilgore2006

Yes....we've gone over this in this thread already....the name for that is homophobia which makes you a bigot.

This thread has room for two opinions, those who disagree with gay adoption and those who agree with it. Maybe you should respect the thoughts of others, so you are the bigot.

I should respect racist opinions too?

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

It shouldn't be illegal at all. We live in a free country, learn to live with other opinions boy, no matter how ridiculous.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

Marx_Brother

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

I completely disagree with mainland europe banning Nazi symbols and holocaust denial... it really is pathetic.

[QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

You guys seem to forget that prejudices are learned behaviors so if a baby is adopted to gay parents they wont be homophobic.

The reason why all of you are homophobic is because your family and freinds are homophobic.

BadAndy642

I have a gay cousin, and my family knows and accepts that. Being gay is fine, that is someone's right, but if the idea of the majority of the people that it is morally wrong, then that is how the law should be. The world is and never will be a Utopian society, and you need to accept that.

[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

xaos

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

I completely disagree with mainland europe banning Nazi symbols and holocaust denial... it really is pathetic.

...What on earth are you talking about?

[QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.

On another thought.

If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
nickmag

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

Marx_Brother

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

I completely disagree with mainland europe banning Nazi symbols and holocaust denial... it really is pathetic.

Why? Nazism isn't really a legit idealogy...it's just about pure hate...why would you want pure hate to be allowed and be deemed acceptable by society?

I believe gays to be sub-human... so I don't think they should have the right to adopt a child. I wouldn't want the child to have to go through a life having two immediate fathers or mothers. Taxpaying_Acorn

The same people who don't want gay people to adopt are the same people who want people to give children up for adoption instead of abortion.  Hypocritical? 

There is nothing wrong with having gay parents growing up, I know several friends who are proof of it.  Sexual orientation isn't learned, it's inherent through chemical and genetic factors in brain chemistry.

And this "It isn't natural" argument is unfounded and just PLAIN WRONG.  There are gay dolphins, gay penguins, and countless other animals which have been documented to be homosexual.  Humans are no exception. 

Being gay doesn't make someone unfit for parenting, and I'm willing to bet there are far more straight parents that mess up their kids lives than anything else. 

[QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

[QUOTE="MadDogm16"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]So even if some animals have some homosexual tendencies. Do the two males have children?MadDogm16

Homosexuality is a perversion of nature, people were meant for that.MadDogm16

in my opinion being gay is not acceptable, and not good for a child.MadDogm16

So how do you explain millions of homosexuals? Some of them must have genuine feelings towards their partner and that's really all that matters.

Definately. They are burning our flags, spitting on the Constitution, and destroying the economy. You are like, so totaly right. Oh yeah.

[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

cradleOFfilth37

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

I completely disagree with mainland europe banning Nazi symbols and holocaust denial... it really is pathetic.

Why? Nazism isn't really a legit idealogy...it's just about pure hate...why would you want pure hate to be allowed and be deemed acceptable by society?

It's what other people think, respect it - aren't you a communist? No wonder you can't understand.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

[QUOTE="FrozeN__54"]I seriously disagree... I wouldn't want to have a gay couple as parents :|Marx_Brother

Yes....we've gone over this in this thread already....the name for that is homophobia which makes you a bigot.

This thread has room for two opinions, those who disagree with gay adoption and those who agree with it. Maybe you should respect the thoughts of others, so you are the bigot.

I should respect racist opinions too?

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

It shouldn't be illegal at all. We live in a free country, learn to live with other opinions boy, no matter how ridiculous.

Free country? If its so free why are you trying to make a case that gays are second class citizens?

The same people who don't want gay people to adopt are the same people who want people to give children up for adoption instead of abortion.  Hypocritical? 

There is nothing wrong with having gay parents growing up, I know several friends who are proof of it.  Sexual orientation isn't learned, it's inherent through chemical and genetic factors in brain chemistry.

And this "It isn't natural" argument is unfounded and just PLAIN WRONG.  There are gay dolphins, gay penguins, and countless other animals which have been documented to be homosexual.  Humans are no exception. 

Being gay doesn't make someone unfit for parenting, and I'm willing to bet there are far more straight parents that mess up their kids lives than anything else. 

Donkey_Puncher

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

[QUOTE="FrozeN__54"]I seriously disagree... I wouldn't want to have a gay couple as parents :|Marx_Brother

Yes....we've gone over this in this thread already....the name for that is homophobia which makes you a bigot.

This thread has room for two opinions, those who disagree with gay adoption and those who agree with it. Maybe you should respect the thoughts of others, so you are the bigot.

I should respect racist opinions too?

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

It shouldn't be illegal at all. We live in a free country, learn to live with other opinions boy, no matter how ridiculous.

The same people who don't want gay people to adopt are the same people who want people to give children up for adoption instead of abortion. Hypocritical?

There is nothing wrong with having gay parents growing up, I know several friends who are proof of it. Sexual orientation isn't learned, it's inherent through chemical and genetic factors in brain chemistry.

And this "It isn't natural" argument is unfounded and just PLAIN WRONG. There are gay dolphins, gay penguins, and countless other animals which have been documented to be homosexual. Humans are no exception.

Being gay doesn't make someone unfit for parenting, and I'm willing to bet there are far more straight parents that mess up their kids lives than anything else.

Donkey_Puncher

I support it.

And I doubt anyone could construct a decent arguement that would provide enough evidence to find gay adoption harmful to a child. 

I really feel sorry for gay people at the present time.  A hundred years from now, society will look down upon people who seek to infringe the rights of gay with the same contempt we feel when we look down on people who discriminated for reasons of gender and race.  When will people understand that a liberal democracy functions to protect the rights of people?  When will people abandon religious superstition and respect the rights of others, =/?

[QUOTE="xaos"]And it is no better off than Nazi Germany, right? I mean, that is what you said above. Maybe we should storm the beaches bringing them swastikas?Marx_Brother

...What on earth are you talking about?

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="MadDogm16"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="MadDogm16"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]So even if some animals have some homosexual tendencies. Do the two males have children?MadDogm16

Homosexuality is a perversion of nature, people were meant for that.MadDogm16

in my opinion being gay is not acceptable, and not good for a child.MadDogm16

Your opinion contributes nothing to this debate, then. Thats like an oxygen leech.

[QUOTE="BadAndy642"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

You guys seem to forget that prejudices are learned behaviors so if a baby is adopted to gay parents they wont be homophobic.

The reason why all of you are homophobic is because your family and freinds are homophobic.

Darth matt

I have a gay cousin, and my family knows and accepts that. Being gay is fine, that is someone's right, but if the idea of the majority of the people that it is morally wrong, then that is how the law should be. The world is and never will be a Utopian society, and you need to accept that.

I hear you too.  That is when the majority was wrong, but over time they changed their views, and we need to improve a lot of this in society, but we will never be able to satisfy all minorities groups' pleas as well as the majority, and minorities should be thankful that most modern governments are republics and not democracies, because they would be screwed otherwise, so I wouldn't always be complaining about our government.

You think freaks liek that should just be let loose? "Free country" or not, that doesn't make it alright to practise racism. If we went by your views, there would be no laws, no order, and crime everywhere, only since it's a "free country" and anythig goes, they're not really crimes are they?

Why is a homosexual person a freak?  What makes them any more crazy or different than a person who loves someone of the oposite sex?  It's very difficult to negate or control the feeling of love when it hits you -- it runs people over like trains.  The important thing we must ask is, "does homosexuality immediately harm me?"  Any reasonable person will answer, "no."

Don't start slipping down a slippery slope -- if you support equal sexuality rights, you're simply saying, "people have a right to live as they see fit as long as they do not harm others."

[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

[QUOTE="FrozeN__54"]I seriously disagree... I wouldn't want to have a gay couple as parents :|cradleOFfilth37

Yes....we've gone over this in this thread already....the name for that is homophobia which makes you a bigot.

This thread has room for two opinions, those who disagree with gay adoption and those who agree with it. Maybe you should respect the thoughts of others, so you are the bigot.

I should respect racist opinions too?

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

It shouldn't be illegal at all. We live in a free country, learn to live with other opinions boy, no matter how ridiculous.

Free country? If its so free why are you trying to make a case that gays are second class citizens?

Look, I respect gays going on gay rights marches - but I disagree with gay adoption.

That's a "free country".... Understand now?

Look, I respect gays going on gay rights marches - but I disagree with gay adoption.

That's a "free country".... Understand now?

Marx_Brother

No matter your position on the issue, gay people exist in this world. Giving them rights will not make the world gay or end the human race. All giving gays the same rights can do, is prove justice and equality still mean something in modern society.
Darth matt

One could not have said it better.

You think freaks liek that should just be let loose? "Free country" or not, that doesn't make it alright to practise racism. If we went by your views, there would be no laws, no order, and crime everywhere, only since it's a "free country" and anythig goes, they're not really crimes are they?FoamingPanda

Why is a homosexual person a freak? What makes them any more crazy or different than a person who loves someone of the oposite sex? It's very difficult to negate or control the feeling of love when it hits you -- it runs people over like trains. The important thing we must ask is, "does homosexuality immediately harm me?" Any reasonable person will answer, "no."

Don't start slipping down a slippery slope -- if you support equal sexuality rights, you're simply saying, "people have a right to live as they see fit as long as they do not harm others."

[QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="cradleOFfilth37"]

[QUOTE="FrozeN__54"]I seriously disagree... I wouldn't want to have a gay couple as parents :|Marx_Brother

Yes....we've gone over this in this thread already....the name for that is homophobia which makes you a bigot.

This thread has room for two opinions, those who disagree with gay adoption and those who agree with it. Maybe you should respect the thoughts of others, so you are the bigot.

I should respect racist opinions too?

Of course. If one country goes about banning racist ideologies, banning symbols, banning offensive movies and games... we would be no better off than in Nazi Germany itself.

Banning an ideology that you don't agree with... yeah, I recall Hitler doing that.

It shouldn't be illegal at all. We live in a free country, learn to live with other opinions boy, no matter how ridiculous.

Free country? If its so free why are you trying to make a case that gays are second class citizens?

Look, I respect gays going on gay rights marches - but I disagree with gay adoption.

That's a "free country".... Understand now?

No...if it were a free country gays could adopt. The purpose of adoption is to give people who can't have their own children a chance to have their own family which IMO is the american dream. Just because they are gay they aren't allowed to have a loving family. Now, correct me if I am wrong...but thats basically what your saying.

Thread is re-opened for now. Again, if you feel the urge to throw around insults or other sorts of terms at people, try and take a breather or two before you write the post, and it'll help make the discussion run more smoothly.Skylock00

it demends on the couple

Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.

On another thought.

If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
thenarkallaptar

That's possibly the most flawed perspective on evolution I've ever read. Or, rather, lack of a perspective on evolution. Apparently you deny the work of Charles Darwin and the accepted theory of natural selection entirely, if you don't believe we evolved from monkeys (apes, actually. we have more amino acids in common with apes (all but 1) than we do with monkeys (all but 4) ). But, for some reason you chose to still relate homosexuality to hereditity. Did you miss the concept of evolution? Apes don't show homosexuality, so humans can't? Apes eat their own crap and pick their noses religiously, does that mean we have to? No, that's actually a complete CONTRADICTION of EVOLUTION. Our brains are larger and more developed than theirs. We ask more questions. We reason more effectively and because of the complexity of the human brain when compared to the relatively primitive nature of ape brains, I find it amazing that you can muster the absence of mind to construe such broken logic.