[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Those are just a couple of negative outcomes. Who knows what could happen to a childs mentality when the parents are gay It will affect the childs developing persona negatively. It just isnt natural.daniel52587Do you have any evidence to support your declaration that it will "negatively affect a child's persona" or are you just making stuff up?For one, adopted children tend to have more psychological issues. Have you ever heard of detachment disorder. Many adopted kids suffer from it. My moms friends adopted kid suffers from it and he is screwed up. Plus the usual questions like, Where are my real parents? Why was I given away? etc. The last thing an adopted child needs is to find out his/her parents are gay So no. It is bad, unnatural, and just shouldnt happen. I have nothing against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. So then no you don't have any evidence that gay adoptive parents are in any way less suitable and fit than heterosexual ones and are, in fact, just making stuff up. Thanks for clearing that up.
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[QUOTE="Fortier"]It really comes down to how the well the couple will do of parenting, as with any other couple...so I'll have to say no, as I feel a large percentage of parents in the world are actually uncapable.ithilgore2006Surely you would say yes, in that case? So as to give a larger amount of good parents a chance to raise a child?
But for every child that gets a good pair of parents gay or straight) there are several more that do not. But of course, people can't just stop having kids to prevent bad parenting...so now I've gone further back than where I was with my first statement. Ugh...rarely have I seen people go backwards in a conversation, but I just did...great...
[QUOTE="Dabighit89"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"]You make them sound like a seperate species. Having gay parents does not affect whether the child will be gay or not. It might affect what they think about gay people, but it wont make them gay The sooner you realise that the better.ithilgore2006They arent a seperate species, nor do I have anything against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. That is all. It isnt natural.
[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Jhonie_Fklits25"]Disagree big time. I honestly would hate to be raised in a gay inviroment. Honestly people, would you want that to happen?Dabighit89This thread is not about you or people of your age, it's about adoption by a homosexual couple. Usually that's very young children, and luckily they won't have already gotten prejuduce against homosexuals at that age, and so they can grow up feeling as "normal" as everyone else, because they will feel that it's normal. That's all that matters, really. ahhh see, but they wont feel it's normal because the majority of couples in the population are straight. The child will soon realize and see other straight couples and question his/her parents.No, they will see as it as normal, or they won't care, they will not have any problem with homosexuals, having been raised by them, and thus will not find anything "wrong" with it or feel negative about it. hah that is a very poor judgement. Lets say aliens abduct the earth..do we see that as normal?no..we are used to the world we live in. Lets say a child grows up with a gay couple and sees changes in society where many couples are straight and different-sex. There's no way the child would see this as nothing and "normal"Do you know anything about this subject, or are you just guessing? Did you know that studies done by American researchers show that children raised by a homosexual couple have the same chance of being healthy mentally and physically as one who is raised by a heterosexual couple. And whether it's "normal" or not, the child will not care, he/she will be tolerant, as he/she has seen it's pretty much the same as being raised by a straight couple. They won't percieve it as "not normal", as they are used to and are comfortable with it, society might cruelly calim it not normal, but the child will not. Exactly, society will bash this child and don't tell me that this wouldn't affect the child. And don't tell me when im guessing when you merely state your opinion as well, its rude. I am on neither side, and i do support gay marriages, but homosexual couple adopting is different becuase the couple is bringing another person into their lives. Yes sure, without society the child WOULD feel this is normal, but of course society ruins everything which in turn would make the child view his parents relationship as not normal.Â
This child will go to his/her friends house and see that there parents are not the same sex. That child will realize that it is in fact not normal. daniel52587So? There's lots of things that could make a child not feel like his parents are 'normal,' outside of them being homosexual, so I really don't get where you're going with this line of argument, because I don't see any real points being proven.
[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Those are just a couple of negative outcomes. Who knows what could happen to a childs mentality when the parents are gay It will affect the childs developing persona negatively. It just isnt natural.xaosDo you have any evidence to support your declaration that it will "negatively affect a child's persona" or are you just making stuff up?For one, adopted children tend to have more psychological issues. Have you ever heard of detachment disorder. Many adopted kids suffer from it. My moms friends adopted kid suffers from it and he is screwed up. Plus the usual questions like, Where are my real parents? Why was I given away? etc. The last thing an adopted child needs is to find out his/her parents are gay So no. It is bad, unnatural, and just shouldnt happen. I have nothing against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. So then no you don't have any evidence that gay adoptive parents are in any way less suitable and fit than heterosexual ones and are, in fact, just making stuff up. Thanks for clearing that up.IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........
[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Dabighit89"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"]You make them sound like a seperate species. Having gay parents does not affect whether the child will be gay or not. It might affect what they think about gay people, but it wont make them gay The sooner you realise that the better.Dabighit89They arent a seperate species, nor do I have anything against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. That is all. It isnt natural.
[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Jhonie_Fklits25"]Disagree big time. I honestly would hate to be raised in a gay inviroment. Honestly people, would you want that to happen?Dabighit89This thread is not about you or people of your age, it's about adoption by a homosexual couple. Usually that's very young children, and luckily they won't have already gotten prejuduce against homosexuals at that age, and so they can grow up feeling as "normal" as everyone else, because they will feel that it's normal. That's all that matters, really. ahhh see, but they wont feel it's normal because the majority of couples in the population are straight. The child will soon realize and see other straight couples and question his/her parents.No, they will see as it as normal, or they won't care, they will not have any problem with homosexuals, having been raised by them, and thus will not find anything "wrong" with it or feel negative about it. hah that is a very poor judgement. Lets say aliens abduct the earth..do we see that as normal?no..we are used to the world we live in. Lets say a child grows up with a gay couple and sees changes in society where many couples are straight and different-sex. There's no way the child would see this as nothing and "normal"Do you know anything about this subject, or are you just guessing? Did you know that studies done by American researchers show that children raised by a homosexual couple have the same chance of being healthy mentally and physically as one who is raised by a heterosexual couple. And whether it's "normal" or not, the child will not care, he/she will be tolerant, as he/she has seen it's pretty much the same as being raised by a straight couple. They won't percieve it as "not normal", as they are used to and are comfortable with it, society might cruelly calim it not normal, but the child will not. Exactly, society will bash this child and don't tell me that this wouldn't affect the child. And don't tell me when im guessing when you merely state your opinion as well, its rude. I am on neither side, and i do support gay marriages, but homosexual couple adopting is different becuase the couple is bringing another person into their lives. Yes sure, without society the child WOULD feel this is normal, but of course society ruins everything which in turn would make the child view his parents relationship as not normal. Well it doesn't exactly help when you have people saying gay like they say "the" or the constant bashing of homosexual couples in America.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Those are just a couple of negative outcomes. Who knows what could happen to a childs mentality when the parents are gay It will affect the childs developing persona negatively. It just isnt natural.daniel52587Do you have any evidence to support your declaration that it will "negatively affect a child's persona" or are you just making stuff up?For one, adopted children tend to have more psychological issues. Have you ever heard of detachment disorder. Many adopted kids suffer from it. My moms friends adopted kid suffers from it and he is screwed up. Plus the usual questions like, Where are my real parents? Why was I given away? etc. The last thing an adopted child needs is to find out his/her parents are gay So no. It is bad, unnatural, and just shouldnt happen. I have nothing against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. So then no you don't have any evidence that gay adoptive parents are in any way less suitable and fit than heterosexual ones and are, in fact, just making stuff up. Thanks for clearing that up.IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man............ I think you just earned a spot in someone sig for that comment right there...
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Those are just a couple of negative outcomes. Who knows what could happen to a childs mentality when the parents are gay It will affect the childs developing persona negatively. It just isnt natural.daniel52587Do you have any evidence to support your declaration that it will "negatively affect a child's persona" or are you just making stuff up?For one, adopted children tend to have more psychological issues. Have you ever heard of detachment disorder. Many adopted kids suffer from it. My moms friends adopted kid suffers from it and he is screwed up. Plus the usual questions like, Where are my real parents? Why was I given away? etc. The last thing an adopted child needs is to find out his/her parents are gay So no. It is bad, unnatural, and just shouldnt happen. I have nothing against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. So then no you don't have any evidence that gay adoptive parents are in any way less suitable and fit than heterosexual ones and are, in fact, just making stuff up. Thanks for clearing that up.IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man......... Evolution doesn't intend anything, it's a non-sentient mechanism. And claiming that something is "common sense" does not make it so.
[QUOTE="KingPeru"]i disagree. hasnt anybody thought of the damage that can be done to the child? when he grows up hes gonna learn that he either has 2 dads or 2 moms. at school they r gonna make fun of him all da way to high school. all his life he has to go through that, its just not normal. imagine if u had gay parents, how would u feel?BuryMethere's no evidence that gay parents can't raise kids No, but that doesn't stop people from trying to say that :lol:
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Those are just a couple of negative outcomes. Who knows what could happen to a childs mentality when the parents are gay It will affect the childs developing persona negatively. It just isnt natural.daniel52587Do you have any evidence to support your declaration that it will "negatively affect a child's persona" or are you just making stuff up?For one, adopted children tend to have more psychological issues. Have you ever heard of detachment disorder. Many adopted kids suffer from it. My moms friends adopted kid suffers from it and he is screwed up. Plus the usual questions like, Where are my real parents? Why was I given away? etc. The last thing an adopted child needs is to find out his/her parents are gay So no. It is bad, unnatural, and just shouldnt happen. I have nothing against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. So then no you don't have any evidence that gay adoptive parents are in any way less suitable and fit than heterosexual ones and are, in fact, just making stuff up. Thanks for clearing that up.IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man......... you keep saying "nature" or "evolution." But using vaccines isn't natural either. Yet all children need to be vaccinated by law.
This isn't really any different. There is no science to suggest that gay parents can't raise kids
There are too many orphans in this country as it is. We need as many people to be foster parents as possible.EboyLOLI know, i plan on adopting kids. Why make more when we already have too many?
IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........daniel52587How does Evolution intend that homosexuals aren't suppose to raise children, aside from the fact that they can't have them biologically themselves? You really don't have any evidence to prove that they are inherently unfit to raise children, which is the focal point of your argument.
[QUOTE="daniel52587"]This child will go to his/her friends house and see that there parents are not the same sex. That child will realize that it is in fact not normal. Skylock00So? There's lots of things that could make a child not feel like his parents are 'normal,' outside of them being homosexual, so I really don't get where you're going with this line of argument, because I don't see any real points being proven. Society will bash the child and his/her parents regardless. The child may not care initially, but when he/she and his/her are outcasted, he/she may end up despising his/her parents as well. Because of the torture that the kid is being put through. Of course they will blame their parents.
Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.If we are like monkeys, then why arent we picking flea's out of eachothers hair?
On another thought.
If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
thenarkallaptar
[QUOTE="daniel52587"]This child will go to his/her friends house and see that there parents are not the same sex. That child will realize that it is in fact not normal. Skylock00So? There's lots of things that could make a child not feel like his parents are 'normal,' outside of them being homosexual, so I really don't get where you're going with this line of argument, because I don't see any real points being proven. Well, since a huge majority of couples is straight, it would be viewed as normal, though i disagree as well. It should be clear that a gay relationship would affect the child in some form of way, most of the time due to society itself.
A gay couple can raise children just as well as a strait couple.....maybe better considering gays have lower rates of spousal and child abuse......
[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]This child will go to his/her friends house and see that there parents are not the same sex. That child will realize that it is in fact not normal. daniel52587So? There's lots of things that could make a child not feel like his parents are 'normal,' outside of them being homosexual, so I really don't get where you're going with this line of argument, because I don't see any real points being proven. Society will bash the child and his/her parents regardless. The child may not care initially, but when he/she and his/her are outcasted, he/she may end up despising his/her parents as well. Because of the torture that the kid is being put through. Of course they will blame their parents. some people will. But alot of people are tolerant to other oppinions.
[QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.If we are like monkeys, then why arent we picking flea's out of eachothers hair? or walking with our knuckles on the ground?
On another thought.
If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
h0wtehnub
Do you have any evidence to support your declaration that it will "negatively affect a child's persona" or are you just making stuff up?For one, adopted children tend to have more psychological issues. Have you ever heard of detachment disorder. Many adopted kids suffer from it. My moms friends adopted kid suffers from it and he is screwed up. Plus the usual questions like, Where are my real parents? Why was I given away? etc. The last thing an adopted child needs is to find out his/her parents are gay So no. It is bad, unnatural, and just shouldnt happen. I have nothing against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. So then no you don't have any evidence that gay adoptive parents are in any way less suitable and fit than heterosexual ones and are, in fact, just making stuff up. Thanks for clearing that up.IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man......... you keep saying "nature" or "evolution." But using vaccines isn't natural either. Yet all children need to be vaccinated by law.[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Those are just a couple of negative outcomes. Who knows what could happen to a childs mentality when the parents are gay It will affect the childs developing persona negatively. It just isnt natural.BuryMe
This isn't really any different. There is no science to suggest that gay parents can't raise kids
Evolution gives us the ability to make these vaccines and what not. Your comparison is stupid and irrelevant.[QUOTE="daniel52587"]IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........Skylock00How does Evolution intend that homosexuals aren't suppose to raise children, aside from the fact that they can't have them biologically themselves? You really don't have any evidence to prove that they are inherently unfit to raise children, which is the focal point of your argument. TOPIC CLOSED.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Those are just a couple of negative outcomes. Who knows what could happen to a childs mentality when the parents are gay It will affect the childs developing persona negatively. It just isnt natural.daniel52587Do you have any evidence to support your declaration that it will "negatively affect a child's persona" or are you just making stuff up?For one, adopted children tend to have more psychological issues. Have you ever heard of detachment disorder. Many adopted kids suffer from it. My moms friends adopted kid suffers from it and he is screwed up. Plus the usual questions like, Where are my real parents? Why was I given away? etc. The last thing an adopted child needs is to find out his/her parents are gay So no. It is bad, unnatural, and just shouldnt happen. I have nothing against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. So then no you don't have any evidence that gay adoptive parents are in any way less suitable and fit than heterosexual ones and are, in fact, just making stuff up. Thanks for clearing that up.IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........Quit with the evolution excuse. Evolution does not dictate rules, or what's "right and wrong", it has nothing to do with raising children. "Nature" is for us to decide, as we have the privelage of having a far higher intelligence then any other animal on this planet, we have self-awareness that other animals do not. Other animals act on instinct, we act on our own thoughts, and we should not follow "nature's" course like other animals, we make our own decisions about what's right or wrong. That's why other animals kill each other for food, and we put people in a cell for harming another person. If they are suitable parents, and the child is too young to make his/her own desicion, then yes, they should adopt it. Forget about sexuality, gender, race, whatever, when adopting a child, look instead at their ability to raise that child well.
ill be the middleman in this flame war....
do gay parents have the right to adopt?? hell yes
is it recommended??? not really...
i dont really care if a child gets adopted by gay parents i support gay rights its just christ think of the **** the child will have to go through litterally he will prolly get his ass kicked every day just for being picked by his gay parents for some reason something isnt fair while at the same time it isnt fair for the parents not being able to adopt...
so what i think is there has to be harsher penalties in schools for making fun of people...
[QUOTE="daniel52587"]IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........Skylock00How does Evolution intend that homosexuals aren't suppose to raise children, aside from the fact that they can't have them biologically themselves? You really don't have any evidence to prove that they are inherently unfit to raise children, which is the focal point of your argument. Need I say more.
[QUOTE="Dabighit89"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Dabighit89"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"]You make them sound like a seperate species. Having gay parents does not affect whether the child will be gay or not. It might affect what they think about gay people, but it wont make them gay The sooner you realise that the better.MattUD1They arent a seperate species, nor do I have anything against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. That is all. It isnt natural.
[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Jhonie_Fklits25"]Disagree big time. I honestly would hate to be raised in a gay inviroment. Honestly people, would you want that to happen?Dabighit89This thread is not about you or people of your age, it's about adoption by a homosexual couple. Usually that's very young children, and luckily they won't have already gotten prejuduce against homosexuals at that age, and so they can grow up feeling as "normal" as everyone else, because they will feel that it's normal. That's all that matters, really. ahhh see, but they wont feel it's normal because the majority of couples in the population are straight. The child will soon realize and see other straight couples and question his/her parents.No, they will see as it as normal, or they won't care, they will not have any problem with homosexuals, having been raised by them, and thus will not find anything "wrong" with it or feel negative about it. hah that is a very poor judgement. Lets say aliens abduct the earth..do we see that as normal?no..we are used to the world we live in. Lets say a child grows up with a gay couple and sees changes in society where many couples are straight and different-sex. There's no way the child would see this as nothing and "normal"Do you know anything about this subject, or are you just guessing? Did you know that studies done by American researchers show that children raised by a homosexual couple have the same chance of being healthy mentally and physically as one who is raised by a heterosexual couple. And whether it's "normal" or not, the child will not care, he/she will be tolerant, as he/she has seen it's pretty much the same as being raised by a straight couple. They won't percieve it as "not normal", as they are used to and are comfortable with it, society might cruelly calim it not normal, but the child will not. Exactly, society will bash this child and don't tell me that this wouldn't affect the child. And don't tell me when im guessing when you merely state your opinion as well, its rude. I am on neither side, and i do support gay marriages, but homosexual couple adopting is different becuase the couple is bringing another person into their lives. Yes sure, without society the child WOULD feel this is normal, but of course society ruins everything which in turn would make the child view his parents relationship as not normal. Well it doesn't exactly help when you have people saying gay like they say "the" or the constant bashing of homosexual couples in America. Exactly, society is the blame
[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]This child will go to his/her friends house and see that there parents are not the same sex. That child will realize that it is in fact not normal. daniel52587So? There's lots of things that could make a child not feel like his parents are 'normal,' outside of them being homosexual, so I really don't get where you're going with this line of argument, because I don't see any real points being proven. Society will bash the child and his/her parents regardless. The child may not care initially, but when he/she and his/her are outcasted, he/she may end up despising his/her parents as well. Because of the torture that the kid is being put through. Of course they will blame their parents. That doesn't really make sense, man, I'm sorry. I was teased and made an outcast as a kid, with some of the jokes being directed at my parents at times, but that doesn't inherently meant that I grew up resenting my parents or myself. You're making FAR too many assumptions on the social implications of the matter to make any sort of meaningful conclusion on the matter outside of your own personal opinion.
[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Theyre people, they should be able to adopt. Its no different to having an older brother/sister in terms of the so called "influence" these people will suppisidly have on the child. A gay couple does not mean a gay child, not that it would be overly bad if it did.Marx_Brother
I wouldn't have liked to have been adopted and brought up by a gay couple.... There's no way.
wheres your sense of adventure[QUOTE="BuryMe"]Do you have any evidence to support your declaration that it will "negatively affect a child's persona" or are you just making stuff up?For one, adopted children tend to have more psychological issues. Have you ever heard of detachment disorder. Many adopted kids suffer from it. My moms friends adopted kid suffers from it and he is screwed up. Plus the usual questions like, Where are my real parents? Why was I given away? etc. The last thing an adopted child needs is to find out his/her parents are gay So no. It is bad, unnatural, and just shouldnt happen. I have nothing against gay people. I just dont think they should be able to raise children. So then no you don't have any evidence that gay adoptive parents are in any way less suitable and fit than heterosexual ones and are, in fact, just making stuff up. Thanks for clearing that up.IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man......... you keep saying "nature" or "evolution." But using vaccines isn't natural either. Yet all children need to be vaccinated by law.[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Those are just a couple of negative outcomes. Who knows what could happen to a childs mentality when the parents are gay It will affect the childs developing persona negatively. It just isnt natural.daniel52587
This isn't really any different. There is no science to suggest that gay parents can't raise kids
Evolution gives us the ability to make these vaccines and what not. Your comparison is stupid and irrelevant. And evolution gives us the ability to have gay parents adopt a child. See how versatile that (non-)argument is?[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........daniel52587How does Evolution intend that homosexuals aren't suppose to raise children, aside from the fact that they can't have them biologically themselves? You really don't have any evidence to prove that they are inherently unfit to raise children, which is the focal point of your argument. Need I say more.
actually yes. infertile women can't biologically have children either.
[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........daniel52587How does Evolution intend that homosexuals aren't suppose to raise children, aside from the fact that they can't have them biologically themselves? You really don't have any evidence to prove that they are inherently unfit to raise children, which is the focal point of your argument. Need I say more.
Yes. it's like saying a Sterile person shouldn't have kids.
[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........daniel52587How does Evolution intend that homosexuals aren't suppose to raise children, aside from the fact that they can't have them biologically themselves? You really don't have any evidence to prove that they are inherently unfit to raise children, which is the focal point of your argument. Need I say more.
Yes, since that is independent of an individual's ability to actually raise a child, which is the point being argued. As noted, a man and a women could, let's say, BOTH be incapable of having children due to biological reasons, yet I bet you wouldn't have a problem with them adopting. Don't dodge the question, and don't be a smart alex about the matter.
Well if your gay you can't produce children cuz the world just wasn't made that way. So I don't think so.Actually thanks to modern science, it is possible to turn an egg into a sperm or vice versa, along with artificial ensemanation and seragate mothers, gays can reproduce.
On another thought.
If we supposedly evolved from monkeys.(which I personally don't believe in). And Monkeys are never homosexual or gay (At least I have never read anything about that at the zoo or seen it there.) So if we are like monkeys, then we shouldn't have homosexuals or gays in our society either should we.
thenarkallaptar
Humans didn't evolve from monkeys, we evolved from a common ancestor, and homosexuality has been seen in monkeys, in fact it's been seen in many animals http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/
[QUOTE="BuryMe"][QUOTE="KingPeru"]i disagree. hasnt anybody thought of the damage that can be done to the child? when he grows up hes gonna learn that he either has 2 dads or 2 moms. at school they r gonna make fun of him all da way to high school. all his life he has to go through that, its just not normal. imagine if u had gay parents, how would u feel?EboyLOLthere's no evidence that gay parents can't raise kids No, but that doesn't stop people from trying to say that :lol: :lol: nice one!..you're right they can raise kids, anyone can. Except the kid would be emotionally affected greatly.
[QUOTE="Dabighit89"][QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]This child will go to his/her friends house and see that there parents are not the same sex. That child will realize that it is in fact not normal. Skylock00So? There's lots of things that could make a child not feel like his parents are 'normal,' outside of them being homosexual, so I really don't get where you're going with this line of argument, because I don't see any real points being proven. Well, since a huge majority of couples is straight, it would be viewed as normal, though i disagree as well. It should be clear that a gay relationship would affect the child in some form of way, most of the time due to society itself.
[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]This child will go to his/her friends house and see that there parents are not the same sex. That child will realize that it is in fact not normal. daniel52587So? There's lots of things that could make a child not feel like his parents are 'normal,' outside of them being homosexual, so I really don't get where you're going with this line of argument, because I don't see any real points being proven. Society will bash the child and his/her parents regardless. The child may not care initially, but when he/she and his/her are outcasted, he/she may end up despising his/her parents as well. Because of the torture that the kid is being put through. Of course they will blame their parents. That doesn't really make sense, man, I'm sorry. I was teased and made an outcast as a kid, with some of the jokes being directed at my parents at times, but that doesn't inherently meant that I grew up resenting my parents or myself. You're making FAR too many assumptions on the social implications of the matter to make any sort of meaningful conclusion on the matter outside of your own personal opinion. Your parents werent the source of you being outcasted were they? Were they the source of you being ridiculed? That is the point I am making. the parents will be the source of the ridicule that child may receive. That will cause negative feelings towards the parents. If society wasnt so screwed up, then I would say that is fine. Gays would be ok to raise children. But society wont allow for a life as regular as a child with straight parents.
:lol: nice one!..you're right they can raise kids, anyone can. Except the kid would be emotionally affected greatly.Dabighit89Really? Do you REALLY know if it will greatly and negatively affect the child to be raised by a homosexual couple or individual, or anymore so than a straight couple or individual?
[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="BuryMe"][QUOTE="KingPeru"]i disagree. hasnt anybody thought of the damage that can be done to the child? when he grows up hes gonna learn that he either has 2 dads or 2 moms. at school they r gonna make fun of him all da way to high school. all his life he has to go through that, its just not normal. imagine if u had gay parents, how would u feel?Dabighit89there's no evidence that gay parents can't raise kids No, but that doesn't stop people from trying to say that :lol: :lol: nice one!..you're right they can raise kids, anyone can. Except the kid would be emotionally affected greatly. I take that back...im not against this, and the child wouldn't be GREATLY affected...but it will affect the child in some way or form.
[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="BuryMe"][QUOTE="KingPeru"]i disagree. hasnt anybody thought of the damage that can be done to the child? when he grows up hes gonna learn that he either has 2 dads or 2 moms. at school they r gonna make fun of him all da way to high school. all his life he has to go through that, its just not normal. imagine if u had gay parents, how would u feel?Dabighit89there's no evidence that gay parents can't raise kids No, but that doesn't stop people from trying to say that :lol: :lol: nice one!..you're right they can raise kids, anyone can. Except the kid would be emotionally affected greatly. A kid can also be emotionally affected by staying in an orphanage for the majority of their life without any parents.
[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]IT IS COMMON SENSE. Use your own brain for crying out loud. You dont need a psychologist to realize that gays arent supposed to raise children. Evolution intended it that way. Man.........Skylock00How does Evolution intend that homosexuals aren't suppose to raise children, aside from the fact that they can't have them biologically themselves? You really don't have any evidence to prove that they are inherently unfit to raise children, which is the focal point of your argument. Need I say more.
Yes, since that is independent of an individual's ability to actually raise a child, which is the point being argued. As noted, a man and a women could, let's say, BOTH be incapable of having children due to biological reasons, yet I bet you wouldn't have a problem with them adopting. Don't dodge the question, and don't be a smart alex about the matter. Society just wont allow it. If society wasnt so judgmental, I maybe wouldnt have a problem with it. Depending on how the parents raise the child. But since I know society would tear that family apart, I just cant bring myself to say it is ok.
[QUOTE="Dabighit89"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="BuryMe"][QUOTE="KingPeru"]i disagree. hasnt anybody thought of the damage that can be done to the child? when he grows up hes gonna learn that he either has 2 dads or 2 moms. at school they r gonna make fun of him all da way to high school. all his life he has to go through that, its just not normal. imagine if u had gay parents, how would u feel?EboyLOLthere's no evidence that gay parents can't raise kids No, but that doesn't stop people from trying to say that :lol: :lol: nice one!..you're right they can raise kids, anyone can. Except the kid would be emotionally affected greatly. A kid can also be emotionally affected by staying in an orphanage for the majority of their life without any parents. Ok..you're absolutely right, though i don't know what you are arguing about. That can also affect a child as well as one brought up by a gay couple.....
Not saying gay couple adopting is wrong, but it makes me mad that people think that a child wouldn't be affected differently if raised by a gay couple compared to a straight one.Dabighit89The problem is that you and others are implying that the child would be affected in a negative fashion. Of course having a different set of parents than originally born from will have some affect on the child one way or another, but those changes aren't inherently bad unless the parent is purposefully instilling poor mentalities and such on the child.
[QUOTE="Dabighit89"]I take that back...im not against this, and the child wouldn't be GREATLY affected...but it will affect the child in some way or form.Hewkiieverything effects everyone in some way or form. ok..but it will affect the child negatively..sorry for not making my statement clear. You know society would bash this kid, and though you wouldn't , there are many other people that are very ignorant and would scrutinize this particular kid.
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