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#1 specialzed
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He wouldnt be as famous as he is now?

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#2 raven_squad
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Yeah, cause there's no famous black rappers...
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#3 JonnyEagle
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Well his whiteness does help him stand out so......
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#4 UbiquitousAeon
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Eminem isn't famous because he's white. He's famous because he can rap.

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#5 SmittyPeppers
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He wouldn't be nearly as big or have the sales he has. Hell, even Eminem's acknowledged this.
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#7 machod_19
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Eminem isn't famous because he's white. He's famous because he can rap.

UbiquitousAeon

Yeah thats what makes him so great if he was black his mic ability would be the same, but the subject would change. We would here more gangsta stuff about the hood/streets and here the "N" word a lot more, but thats about it.

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#8 SmittyPeppers
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

Eminem isn't famous because he's white. He's famous because he can rap.

machod_19

Yeah thats what makes him so great if he was black his mic ability would be the same, but the subject would change. We would here more gangsta stuff about the hood/streets and here the "N" word a lot more, but thats about it.

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#9 Fuhgeddabouditt
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"If Eminem was black, he wouldnt be as famous as he is now?"specialzed

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#11 RiskAverseStock
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"If [X] was [Y] then would [X] still be [Z]?" ignores [A] through [W], so what's the point?

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#12 Truf89
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Yeah, cause there's no famous black rappers...raven_squad
Who told you that?
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#13 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Yeah, cause there's no famous black rappers...Truf89
Who told you that?

The lack of sarcasm detectors in these parts is resounding.
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#14 Izzymoney
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Eminem thinks so, "Let's do the math if I was black I would have sold half, I didn't have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that."

*edit* From his song "White America"

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#15 muller39
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No I don't think so because his ability speaks for itself.

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#16 jalexbrown
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Eminem thinks so, "Let's do the math if I was black I would have sold half, I didn't have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that."

*edit* From his song "White America"

Izzymoney
That's because he knew that him being white helped him stand out; it actually did improve his career even though most will say it didn't.
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#17 th3warr1or
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Eminem is famous because he can rap, but the thing is being White makes him stand out.
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#18 Snipes_2
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Being a white rapper is somewhat unique, we generally see black rappers. It didn't make his career for him, and it's not just because he's white.

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#19 Nifty_Shark
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If he was black he would use the N word instead of leaving it to the guest appearances only. Something I found funny on his albums.
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#20 JML897
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

Eminem isn't famous because he's white. He's famous because he can rap.

machod_19

Yeah thats what makes him so great if he was black his mic ability would be the same, but the subject would change. We would here more gangsta stuff about the hood/streets and here the "N" word a lot more, but thats about it.

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:lol: I'm not sure I've heard anything more racist on GS than that.

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#21 weezyfb
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you clearly know nothing about hip hop.
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#22 Nifty_Shark
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[QUOTE="machod_19"]

[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

Eminem isn't famous because he's white. He's famous because he can rap.

JML897

Yeah thats what makes him so great if he was black his mic ability would be the same, but the subject would change. We would here more gangsta stuff about the hood/streets and here the "N" word a lot more, but thats about it.

:|

:lol: I'm not sure I've heard anything more racist on GS than that.

Well it comes with the territory now doesn't it. Who knows maybe he would be like POS who I don't think ever talked about hood life. Which is why my friend calls him an Oreo :P

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#23 Loco_Live
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A major part of his appeal is that he's a white rapper, believe it or not.

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#24 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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I doubt it..

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#25 carlandcarl
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A major part of his appeal is that he's a white rapper, believe it or not.

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no, the big appeal is that he is an amazing lyricist, writing songs such as Mosh, not wrapping about money and cars but actually using words to bring out his political opinions, him rapping about his hard times trying to take care of Daughter and past wife etc.

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#26 gamedude2020
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[QUOTE="specialzed"]"If Eminem was black, he wouldnt be as famous as he is now?"Fuhgeddabouditt

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my thoughts also

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#27 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

A major part of his appeal is that he's a white rapper, believe it or not.

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no, the big appeal is that he is an amazing lyricist, writing songs such as Mosh, not wrapping about money and cars but actually using words to bring out his political opinions, him rapping about his hard times trying to take care of Daughter and past wife etc.

If he was black, I wouldn't care. The market is filled with black rappers. Eminem being white helps him stand out. But yes, his greatest appeal is that he's the best rapper ever.

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#28 T_REX305
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if he was black is voice wouldnt match

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#29 TheDrunkenLord
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it's kind of a moot point. what if Vanilla Ice was black? who gives a ****

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#30 krunkmastax
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Being white makes him stand out. he's famous because he's actually damn good at what he does. Hell the dude even sings better than most rappers.
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#31 MagnumPI
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I have to agree. He's a novelty. If he were black he would just be another wannabe rapper. It was hip for white kidsto act like theywere from down south or the projects about 15 years ago, but it was always silly sincethey came form mid town and uptown suburbs. Eminem is anovelty because how often do you see a white person THAT ghetto? It's bizarre. His dialect doesn'tseem legitimate.

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#32 Izzymoney
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It doesn't matter what color you are when you have Dr. Dre behind you.

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#33 jubino
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Would have been easier to answer if you asked "would he be as popular as he is now?". You made the question more confusing than it needed to be :P

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#34 scorch-62
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Eminem isn't famous because he's white. He's famous because he can rap.UbiquitousAeon
He's famous for being able to rap. He's notable in his profession for being white.
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#35 hedden93
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Who cares if he was black, orange, red or purple? The point is he can rap and he has a lot of talent.

btw his "Not Afraid" music video came out today. Just thought i would share

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#36 wstfld
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He'd have totally different subject matter if he was black. For the sake of this topic, if all his songs were the same and he was black he'd be just as famous.
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#37 JML897
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I have to agree. He's a novelty. If he were black he would just be another wannabe rapper. It was hip for white kidsto act like theywere from down south or the projects about 15 years ago, but it was always silly sincethey came form mid town and uptown suburbs. Eminem is anovelty because how often do you see a white person THAT ghetto? It's bizarre. His dialect doesn'tseem legitimate.

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Eminem is not the only white rapper today -- far from it, in fact. He's famous because he's provocative, supported by hip-hop legends like Dr. Dre, and even huge hip-hop fans consider him to be one of the best rappers of all-time. I'm not going to sit here and say that the "whiteness" has nothing to do with his popularity -- it is a factor. But to completely discredit him like you're doing is wrong.

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#38 F1_2004
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He'd probably be even bigger. Great rappers have said that if Eminem was black, he'd be one of the greatest of all time.
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#39 Nonstop-Madness
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]Eminem isn't famous because he's white. He's famous because he can rap.scorch-62
He's famous for being able to rap. He's notable in his profession for being white.

couldn't say it better ........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s

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#40 the_new_guy_92
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Eminem stands out because he was a great white rapper(he wasn't the first good white rapper) with backing from a lot of the older black rappers. Before him white rappers were considered something to laugh at(MC Serch/Vanilla Ice). Even the good white rappers(Beastie Boys) were always seen as too goofy to seriously. Em changed that.

But on the other note, people ride Eminem so hard on this site.

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#41 flowersjf
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[QUOTE="carlandcarl"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

A major part of his appeal is that he's a white rapper, believe it or not.

Loco_Live

no, the big appeal is that he is an amazing lyricist, writing songs such as Mosh, not wrapping about money and cars but actually using words to bring out his political opinions, him rapping about his hard times trying to take care of Daughter and past wife etc.

If he was black, I wouldn't care. The market is filled with black rappers. Eminem being white helps him stand out. But yes, his greatest appeal is that he's the best rapper ever.

That's a good point but I wouldn't declare him the best rapper ever. It's just like everybody saying that Lebron is better than Kobe in which he clearly isn't.
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**** those .gifs made me lol hard
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#43 Strider_91
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He wouldnt be as famous as he is now?

specialzed
I would probably class this as racist, race does not matter..
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#44 the_new_guy_92
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="carlandcarl"]

no, the big appeal is that he is an amazing lyricist, writing songs such as Mosh, not wrapping about money and cars but actually using words to bring out his political opinions, him rapping about his hard times trying to take care of Daughter and past wife etc.

flowersjf

If he was black, I wouldn't care. The market is filled with black rappers. Eminem being white helps him stand out. But yes, his greatest appeal is that he's the best rapper ever.

That's a good point but I wouldn't declare him the best rapper ever. It's just like everybody saying that Lebron is better than Kobe in which he clearly isn't.

I always wonder what drives people to say things like "Eminem is the best rapper" He definitely doesn't have the best discography or album in hip-hop He's a great lyricist, but he isn't the best hip-hop artist to put the pen to the pad He didn't add anything amazing to the genre in terms of lyrics or music He's a great rapper, an elite emcee, but what makes him stand out from the other elite artist in hip-hop like Jay-Z, Nas, DMX, Andre 3000, Big Pun, Big L, B.I.G, Rakim, Scarface, Half the dudes in the Wu, etc.
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#45 T_REX305
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="carlandcarl"]

no, the big appeal is that he is an amazing lyricist, writing songs such as Mosh, not wrapping about money and cars but actually using words to bring out his political opinions, him rapping about his hard times trying to take care of Daughter and past wife etc.

flowersjf

If he was black, I wouldn't care. The market is filled with black rappers. Eminem being white helps him stand out. But yes, his greatest appeal is that he's the best rapper ever.

That's a good point but I wouldn't declare him the best rapper ever. It's just like everybody saying that Lebron is better than Kobe in which he clearly isn't.

yeah. kobe is way better then lebron

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#46 coolbeans90
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I honestly don't know.

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#47 specialzed
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Ok new question. Eminem is the best rapper ever? Your opinion. Plus ive never heard a black person say that either, i know i wouldnt. If eminem is good cause he raps about things other than cars and money then what about rappers like immortal technique? not as popular as eminem but the last things he raps about are cars and money.

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#48 chessmaster1989
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As far as rappers go, I think he's actually one of the best. I think he gets a little extra publicity because he's white, but I bet he'd still be very popular even if he weren't.
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#49 the_new_guy_92
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Ok new question. Eminem is the best rapper ever? Your opinion. Plus ive never heard a black person say that either, i know i wouldnt. If eminem is good cause he raps about things other than cars and money then what about rappers like immortal technique? not as popular as eminem but the last things he raps about are cars and money.

specialzed

Immortal Technique isn't that good of a rapper. I like him but his lyrical ability is lacking. And I always tell people subject matter doesn't matter when you talk about best rapper. A guy talking about cars, money, and women can be better than a rapper talking about social and political issues. It all about lyrical ability and making good music. Using similes, metaphors, complex rhyme schemes, and other tools of language like juxtaposition, alliteration, assonance and etc effectively .

And I like Eminem, he's one of the best, but I just don't know how anybody can go into an argument with knowledgeable hip-hop fans and come through with a solid argument for him being the best everor GOAT.

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#50 Osaka-06
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Ok new question. Eminem is the best rapper ever? Your opinion. Plus ive never heard a black person say that either, i know i wouldnt. If eminem is good cause he raps about things other than cars and money then what about rappers like immortal technique? not as popular as eminem but the last things he raps about are cars and money.

specialzed
Immortal Technique is not nearly as good lyrically. And "best rapper ever" includes ALL countries not only english speaking ones.