Pope condones condom use in exceptional cases (FINALLY)

seems the Catholic Church has finally seen sense your thoughts ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11804398

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

DaJuicyMan

I am honestly surprised at how relevent religion still is in this day and age...

I ...yeah... I guess i'll stop there.

not anti Religion its just good to know that the Church has woken up and joined the 21 century is all .

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

I am honestly surprised at how relevent religion still is in this day and age...

I ...yeah... I guess i'll stop there.

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

DaJuicyMan

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

DaJuicyMan

The TC or the link he posted?

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Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

buldog300

Q: Why are so many people anti-gay

A: Because in their subconscious they know they are gay and homophobia is just an attempt to suppress that knowledge.

I can play that game too. :D

[QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

DaJuicyMan

I am honestly surprised at how relevent religion still is in this day and age...

I ...yeah... I guess i'll stop there.

its not dumb my Grandparents are Protestants Anglican to be more specific so i would never belittle someone for there beliefs however what is dumb is telling Africans they cant use Condoms cause the Church doesn't condone it even tho the Church knows full well these people are at risk of Diseases that will kill them .

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

I am honestly surprised at how relevent religion still is in this day and age...

I ...yeah... I guess i'll stop there.

[QUOTE="buldog300"][QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

Teenaged

Q: Why are so many people anti-gay

A: Because in their subconscious they know they are gay and homophobia is just an attempt to suppress that knowledge.

I can play that game too. :D

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"][QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

I am honestly surprised at how relevent religion still is in this day and age...

I ...yeah... I guess i'll stop there.

xTheExploited

I dislikes the pope anyway.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="buldog300"] because in their subconscious they know god really does exist and atheism is an attempt to suppress that knowledge. Reverberating anything that contradicts their internal defenses is a threat to those defenses. buldog300

Q: Why are so many people anti-gay

A: Because in their subconscious they know they are gay and homophobia is just an attempt to suppress that knowledge.

I can play that game too. :D

My parody was as generalising as your post. And it couldnt get any more generalised.

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"][QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] I can understand how people can think it's primal or unlogical or hatever, but why do people need to make it a priority to bash religion or make others feel dumb for being religious?DaJuicyMan

[QUOTE="buldog300"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Q: Why are so many people anti-gay

A: Because in their subconscious they know they are gay and homophobia is just an attempt to suppress that knowledge.

I can play that game too. :D

Teenaged

My parody was as generalising as yours. And it couldnt get any more generalised.

This is good news. Hopefully we'll see some kind of positive turn for teen pregnancies.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="buldog300"] One could make that arguement :P. I'd be less than surprised to discover a homophobic or two secretly homosexual.buldog300

My parody was as generalising as yours. And it couldnt get any more generalised.

Things that can make one be hostile towards their "opposition" is not just supposedly knowing the opposition is right and its not surprising that such a rationale is used since it makes the opposed look like the victims and the ones being wronged.

One can get upset because their environment is not very friendly towards their convictions, because what they are raging agaist is considered by them very important to ignore, or they are generally people without patience or self-control. And these are just the possibilities that I can think of.

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

DaJuicyMan

religion has caused more wars and killed more people than anything else in history.i think the question should be why do we thrive on religion?

Yeah I suppose you would have to condone the use of condoms in the event that a priest should force himself upon a child lest he carry STDs.

Guess they need to do something to deal with the stigma created by that scandal.

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

z4twenny

religion has caused more wars and killed more people than anything else in history.i think the question should be why do we thrive on religion?

[QUOTE="buldog300"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]One or two-actually homosexual- homophobic people isnt really what I described in my parody of your post.

My parody was as generalising as yours. And it couldnt get any more generalised.

Teenaged

Things that can make one be hostile towards their "opposition" is not just supposedly knowing the opposition is right and its not surprising that such a rationale is used since it makes the opposed look like the victims and the ones being wronged.

One can get upset because their environment is not very friendly towards their convictions, because what they are raging agaist is considered by them very important to ignore, or they are generally people without patience or self-control. And these are just the possibilities that I can think of.

I generalized because of everything you said .I do think it is a subconscious refutation or at the very least self-doubt. I do think Christians have been in the right since the beginning of this ordeal, and I do think the casualties of the ongoing culture war have been Christians. If you disagree with me then good for you, disagreement is what makes both America and the internet great.

I never like them that much anyway. It took them over 400 years to realize it was a bad idea to put Galieo under house arrest for proving them wrong.

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

DaJuicyMan

Pope does something good for a change. A positive step for Catholicism and Christianity on the whole. I don't follow it anymore but I know the benefits of him saying that. I'll take it as an overall positive change.

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

z4twenny

religion has caused more wars and killed more people than anything else in history.i think the question should be why do we thrive on religion?

Thanks for bringing your strawman. Luckily, there are also torches in abundance to take care of this.

What a tired old argument against religion. This is the same as saying "Love and passion have caused so many unnecessary deaths throughout history. Why don't we all just become indifferent?" The sentiment sounds ridiculous because we all know that a by-product of love (jealousy, envy, whatever) causes bad things to happen a lot of times, but never love itself. Religion doesn't cause war. People who practice religion, and as a result become fanatical and intolerant, cause wars. Political disputes and differences in other ideologies have caused wars as well. Shall we go ahead and do away with everything by seeking out human error in all things? I assure you it can be done.

Male strippers should use condoms but not people in HIV stricken countries, great. :roll:

The Catholic church is probably the only religion in the world that is headed by a despot content to cause as much damage as possible.

People are going to use condoms regardless of what the Pope says. The Catholic Church does have good intentions, though.

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[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

Theokhoth

religion has caused more wars and killed more people than anything else in history.i think the question should be why do we thrive on religion?

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Why do people thrive on being anti-religion?

Theokhoth

religion has caused more wars and killed more people than anything else in history.i think the question should be why do we thrive on religion?

however what i would say in the defence of Religion is that the Religions themselves don't tell the people to fight only man can make that decision like it or not every Religion has its idiots with very bigoted views and opinions .

People are going to use condoms regardless of what the Pope says. The Catholic Church does have good intentions, though.

ImaPirate0202

Good intentions? "Don't use condoms, they are evil. Just have unprotected sex with people who can't afford to bathe themselves properly with an extremely high risk of disease." Sorry, but "good intentions" is a little hard to swallow when the churcharbitrarily deems particular objects such as condoms to be evil. What if they decided keyboards, or glasses were evil? Wouldthat be all for a greater cause? No it wouldn't, so why allow for a double standard?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="z4twenny"]first of all this Argument has been done to death so shouldn't be revisited secondly usually when there is a dispute between countries and peoples it will be because of a deference in Religion or Beliefs and the larger of the 2 countries might decided to force there beliefs on the other like it or not Religion has been the biggest cause of War in Human History and still is to this day .

snakes_codec

Did you read this?

Thanks for bringing your strawman. Luckily, there are also torches in abundance to take care of this.

What a tired old argument against religion. This is the same as saying "Love and passion have caused so many unnecessary deaths throughout history. Why don't we all just become indifferent?" The sentiment sounds ridiculous because we all know that a by-product of love (jealousy, envy, whatever) causes bad things to happen a lot of times, but never love itself. Religion doesn't cause war. People who practice religion, and as a result become fanatical and intolerant, cause wars. Political disputes and differences in other ideologies have caused wars as well. Shall we go ahead and do away with everything by seeking out human error in all things? I assure you it can be done.

Assassin_87

Or this?

Religious wars only make up 7%(3% involved Muslims) of the wars in the history of man. No, I won't dig into the depths of good to relocate when I discovered that. The Papal states essentially was the UN of the medieval era.

buldog300

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

People are going to use condoms regardless of what the Pope says. The Catholic Church does have good intentions, though.

WasntAvailable

Good intentions? "Don't use condoms, they are evil. Just have unprotected sex with people who can't afford to bathe themselves properly with an extremely high risk of disease." Sorry, but "good intentions" is a little hard to swallow when the churcharbitrarily deems particular objects such as condoms to be evil. What if they decided keyboards, or glasses were evil? Wouldthat be all for a greater cause? No it wouldn't, so why allow for a double standard?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="z4twenny"]

religion has caused more wars and killed more people than anything else in history.i think the question should be why do we thrive on religion?

buldog300

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="buldog300"] You think I didn't know that? I meant what I said and I said what I meant, for atheists hostile to believers. 'logical' people don't harass people they deem illogical, or else we'd have to rewrite the personas of vulcans.buldog300

Things that can make one be hostile towards their "opposition" is not just supposedly knowing the opposition is right and its not surprising that such a rationale is used since it makes the opposed look like the victims and the ones being wronged.

One can get upset because their environment is not very friendly towards their convictions, because what they are raging agaist is considered by them very important to ignore, or they are generally people without patience or self-control. And these are just the possibilities that I can think of.

I generalized because of everything you said .I do think it is a subconscious refutation or at the very least self-doubt. I do think Christians have been in the right since the beginning of this ordeal, and I do think the casualties of the ongoing culture war have been Christians. If you disagree with me then good for you, disagreement is what makes both America and the internet great.

And I like that go on stating stuff that are irrelevant to what we are discussing or stuff I didnt doubt you believe. Should I assume those are your defenses to your self-doubt?

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

People are going to use condoms regardless of what the Pope says. The Catholic Church does have good intentions, though.

WasntAvailable

Good intentions? "Don't use condoms, they are evil. Just have unprotected sex with people who can't afford to bathe themselves properly with an extremely high risk of disease." Sorry, but "good intentions" is a little hard to swallow when the churcharbitrarily deems particular objects such as condoms to be evil. What if they decided keyboards, or glasses were evil? Wouldthat be all for a greater cause? No it wouldn't, so why allow for a double standard?

If they could come up with a good reason as to why keyboards and glasses are evil, I would love to hear it.

The Catholic Church sees sex as a very sacred act and should only be used as a means of reproduction. That's why they say no to condoms. Not because they are evil.

[QUOTE="buldog300"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Religion has caused more wars than, say, land disputes or political rifts? I find that hard to believe.mfp16

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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

People are going to use condoms regardless of what the Pope says. The Catholic Church does have good intentions, though.

buldog300

Good intentions? "Don't use condoms, they are evil. Just have unprotected sex with people who can't afford to bathe themselves properly with an extremely high risk of disease." Sorry, but "good intentions" is a little hard to swallow when the churcharbitrarily deems particular objects such as condoms to be evil. What if they decided keyboards, or glasses were evil? Wouldthat be all for a greater cause? No it wouldn't, so why allow for a double standard?

bingo

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

People are going to use condoms regardless of what the Pope says. The Catholic Church does have good intentions, though.

buldog300

Good intentions? "Don't use condoms, they are evil. Just have unprotected sex with people who can't afford to bathe themselves properly with an extremely high risk of disease." Sorry, but "good intentions" is a little hard to swallow when the churcharbitrarily deems particular objects such as condoms to be evil. What if they decided keyboards, or glasses were evil? Wouldthat be all for a greater cause? No it wouldn't, so why allow for a double standard?

Natural order of life? NEWS FLASH: People have sex. People have sex all year round, people have sex in all places, people have sex however they want, whenever they want to and most importantly for whatever reason they want to. And you know what? That's entirely natural. Animals do it too, and they arn't bound by some phoney religious laws. The Catholic church is just completely naive to the world around them. The Pope is nothing more than a dressed up politician elevated by his own self importance.

[QUOTE="mfp16"] you'd look it up yourselfbuldog300

Oh ok, now I will start using condoms only because the pope OK'd it, not because I want to avoid STD's or unwanted pregnancies, no that's just an added bonus, my entire life goes to approval of my life by the pope.

To be fair the Catholic nations have been considered 'backwards' since the beginning of the industrial era. Since money lending was considered a sin, the middle class couldn't industrialize in nations like Spain or France since they lacked funds to get industry off the ground. I don't think it's fair to call the catholic church out of touch within modern society; they just have their own set of convictions to abide by.buldog300

i would agree to an extent with what you say Catholic Nations on a whole since the Industrial Revolution have been less productive than Protestant Nations Great Britain is a perfect example of this it maintained its Christen values but had great Religious and Social Freedom than Say France & Spain and the result was it Industrialised nearly 100 years ahead of the rest of Europe the United States could also be used as an example in a similar fashion in that it is a Nation of many Cultures and Faiths but at its rout it Values are more in line with a Protestant Nations .