She's reading to them. An age appropriate book, not the Kama Sutra. Her vagina and its' adventures have nothing to do with reading.XilePrincess
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I've heard from some websites that porn star's boobs have a powerful hypnotic ability that can not be contained, even by clothes.
The boys that she will read to will become porn addicts and the girls will become future porn stars.
Hide your kids! Her boobs have the power to change your child's future!
~Media telling children's parents.
Parents will believe anything the media tells them these days :/
This is what I don't get about everyone saying "it's fine": one pre-existing experience and actions can AND SHOULD dictate whether or not someone can do a certain job or be around specific people. I can assure you that no one in this thread would like it if their physician was a convicted pedophile, or if their lawyer had a criminal history, or if their kid's teachers had a drug-abuse problem in the past. Of course, not everyone who does these sorts of things isn't necessarily cut out for the occupation/task, but it does play a factor into whether or not they should be allowed to do such a task over a competing individual who has a lesser chance of social backlash or fraudulent occurences. As you said, what if kids decide to google her? If these are kids that are still at the elementary school level, they can be exposed to some things that a lot of parents might not want their kids being exposed to at such an age. It sounds silly, but why the heck not just hire someone else that'd have a lesser chance at causing controversy? Does the bad publicity really mean that much?[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] I wonder how people would feel if a Marine who was cleared of charges in an incident overseas involving the deaths of children used as say, living weapons, wanted to do the exact same thing as Sasha Grey. Both had legal careers. Both should be allows the same job. But I figure both if presented with questions pertaining to the highlights of said careers by curious children would possibly create unique issues in the elementary school atmosphere. worlock77
Well for one thing she's not applying for a teaching job. She's reading some books to some kids. That's it. For another thing even if she were applying to be a teacher her past, in this case, has no relevance to the job she's applying for. However a criminal history might have some bearing on someone wanting to be a lawyer.
I'm not blatantly saying she shouldn't be hired, but why the heck can't they just have someone else read to the children? I doubt that the ONLY person available is a former adult actress. It seems like that for the stress that it'd cause for some, it wouldn't be worth it. And a lot of job interviewers would look down upon someone who has a passt in the adult movie industry, regardless of the field (unless it's adult films :P)Yes because she'll start doing it with the elementary school kids :roll: I really hate these close minded parents that get pissed off at anything slightly out of the norm that they don't agree with.Moriarity_Maybe they have good reason to disagree. Someone who decided that doing porn was a good idea might not the kind of person they want teaching their kids. :/
[QUOTE="Moriarity_"]Yes because she'll start doing it with the elementary school kids :roll: I really hate these close minded parents that get pissed off at anything slightly out of the norm that they don't agree with.SolidSnake35Maybe they have good reason to disagree. Someone who decided that doing porn was a good idea might not the kind of person they want teaching their kids. :/
She isn't teaching kids. She read some books. Nothing more.
Maybe they have good reason to disagree. Someone who decided that doing porn was a good idea might not the kind of person they want teaching their kids. :/[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Moriarity_"]Yes because she'll start doing it with the elementary school kids :roll: I really hate these close minded parents that get pissed off at anything slightly out of the norm that they don't agree with.worlock77
She isn't teaching kids. She read some books. Nothing more.
Seems unnecessary.[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="Setsa"] This is what I don't get about everyone saying "it's fine": one pre-existing experience and actions can AND SHOULD dictate whether or not someone can do a certain job or be around specific people. I can assure you that no one in this thread would like it if their physician was a convicted pedophile, or if their lawyer had a criminal history, or if their kid's teachers had a drug-abuse problem in the past. Of course, not everyone who does these sorts of things isn't necessarily cut out for the occupation/task, but it does play a factor into whether or not they should be allowed to do such a task over a competing individual who has a lesser chance of social backlash or fraudulent occurences. As you said, what if kids decide to google her? If these are kids that are still at the elementary school level, they can be exposed to some things that a lot of parents might not want their kids being exposed to at such an age. It sounds silly, but why the heck not just hire someone else that'd have a lesser chance at causing controversy? Does the bad publicity really mean that much?Setsa
Well for one thing she's not applying for a teaching job. She's reading some books to some kids. That's it. For another thing even if she were applying to be a teacher her past, in this case, has no relevance to the job she's applying for. However a criminal history might have some bearing on someone wanting to be a lawyer.
I'm not blatantly saying she shouldn't be hired, but why the heck can't they just have someone else read to the children? I doubt that the ONLY person available is a former adult actress. It seems like that for the stress that it'd cause for some, it wouldn't be worth it. And a lot of job interviewers would look down upon someone who has a passt in the adult movie industry, regardless of the field (unless it's adult films :P)Maybe they thouht that she was really passionate about it. In these kind of programs, passion counts alot.
[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Maybe they have good reason to disagree. Someone who decided that doing porn was a good idea might not the kind of person they want teaching their kids. :/SolidSnake35
She isn't teaching kids. She read some books. Nothing more.
Seems unnecessary.Actually making a fuss about it is what's unnecessary.
Maybe they have good reason to disagree. Someone who decided that doing porn was a good idea might not the kind of person they want teaching their kids. :/[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Moriarity_"]Yes because she'll start doing it with the elementary school kids :roll: I really hate these close minded parents that get pissed off at anything slightly out of the norm that they don't agree with.worlock77
She isn't teaching kids. She read some books. Nothing more.
Akin to how a surgeon is performing a medical procedure, not interacting in a social nor sexual context with his clientele, and ergo it being irrelevant as to whether or not he has a history in sexual harassment. Like it or not, in the real world people WILL judge you based upon the decisions you make, no matter how irrelevant they may seem, because at one point in that person's life they thought that that particular something was right. Yeah, she's not going to be performing intercourse with the kids, obviously. There's no need to even point that out because it is blatantly obvious, but she still is an individual with a past in a not-so-esteemed industry. One that many people are going to frown upon when professionalism needs to be maintained. It may seem silly, but it's in the same sense that a lot of people wouldn't want a doctor with 25 facial piercings, tattoo sleeves, and a flaming red mohawk.Seems unnecessary.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="worlock77"]
She isn't teaching kids. She read some books. Nothing more.
worlock77
Actually making a fuss about it is what's unnecessary.
Depends what your view of porn is. Personally I wouldn't care... but I can understand some parents caring. Past history is important. They probably liken this to having a murderer read to their kids. The latter may be worse but they're on the same scale.[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Maybe they have good reason to disagree. Someone who decided that doing porn was a good idea might not the kind of person they want teaching their kids. :/Setsa
She isn't teaching kids. She read some books. Nothing more.
Akin to how a surgeon is performing a medical procedure, not interacting in a social nor sexual context with his clientele, and ergo it being irrelevant as to whether or not he has a history in sexual harassment. Like it or not, in the real world people WILL judge you based upon the decisions you make, no matter how irrelevant they may seem, because at one point in that person's life they thought that that particular something was right. Yeah, she's not going to be performing intercourse with the kids, obviously. There's no need to even point that out because it is blatantly obvious, but she still is an individual with a past in a not-so-esteemed industry. One that many people are going to frown upon when professionalism needs to be maintained. It may seem silly, but it's in the same sense that a lot of people wouldn't want a doctor with 25 facial piercings, tattoo sleeves, and a flaming red mohawk.What is your point? A person may or may not choose a physician due to certain factors. A hospital may not emply that physican due to the same factors. In this case however the program in question and the school hosting evidently had no issue with her previous profession. Case closed.
[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Seems unnecessary.SolidSnake35
Actually making a fuss about it is what's unnecessary.
Depends what your view of porn is. Personally I wouldn't care... but I can understand some parents caring. Past history is important. They probably liken this to having a murderer read to their kids. The latter may be worse but they're on the same scale.Wait a minute, how is being a pornstar on the same scale as---
Oh, **** it. Never mind.
Depends what your view of porn is. Personally I wouldn't care... but I can understand some parents caring. Past history is important. They probably liken this to having a murderer read to their kids. The latter may be worse but they're on the same scale.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="worlock77"]
Actually making a fuss about it is what's unnecessary.
GreySeal9
Wait a minute, how is being a pornstar on the same scale as---
Oh, **** it. Never mind.
Both are immoral in some people's view...[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Depends what your view of porn is. Personally I wouldn't care... but I can understand some parents caring. Past history is important. They probably liken this to having a murderer read to their kids. The latter may be worse but they're on the same scale.SolidSnake35
Wait a minute, how is being a pornstar on the same scale as---
Oh, **** it. Never mind.
Both are immoral in some people's view...I'm sure that even most people who think porn is immoral would admit that being a pornstar is not on the same on the same "scale" as being a murderer.
Unless they're totally crazy that is.
Both are immoral in some people's view...[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
Wait a minute, how is being a pornstar on the same scale as---
Oh, **** it. Never mind.
GreySeal9
I'm sure that even most people who think porn is immoral would admit that being a pornstar is not on the same on the same "scale" as being a murderer.
Unless they're totally crazy that is.
One is slight immoral... the other is very immoral. Same scale.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Both are immoral in some people's view...SolidSnake35
I'm sure that even most people who think porn is immoral would admit that being a pornstar is not on the same on the same "scale" as being a murderer.
Unless they're totally crazy that is.
One is slight immoral... the other is very immoral. Same scale.By that logic, what other scale is there? :?
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Both are immoral in some people's view...SolidSnake35
I'm sure that even most people who think porn is immoral would admit that being a pornstar is not on the same on the same "scale" as being a murderer.
Unless they're totally crazy that is.
One is slight immoral... the other is very immoral. Same scale.Being judgmental is immoral in some people's eyes. So using your logic - being judgemental is on the same scale as being a murderer.
Akin to how a surgeon is performing a medical procedure, not interacting in a social nor sexual context with his clientele, and ergo it being irrelevant as to whether or not he has a history in sexual harassment. Like it or not, in the real world people WILL judge you based upon the decisions you make, no matter how irrelevant they may seem, because at one point in that person's life they thought that that particular something was right. Yeah, she's not going to be performing intercourse with the kids, obviously. There's no need to even point that out because it is blatantly obvious, but she still is an individual with a past in a not-so-esteemed industry. One that many people are going to frown upon when professionalism needs to be maintained. It may seem silly, but it's in the same sense that a lot of people wouldn't want a doctor with 25 facial piercings, tattoo sleeves, and a flaming red mohawk.[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="worlock77"]
She isn't teaching kids. She read some books. Nothing more.
worlock77
What is your point? A person may or may not choose a physician due to certain factors. A hospital may not emply that physican due to the same factors. In this case however the program in question and the school hosting evidently had no issue with her previous profession. Case closed.
People can lobby against those decisions though, and if enough pressure is applied, they can crack :/ Sorry if I got a little hostile in nature, the point I was trying to get across was that regardless of how illogical it may seem to take one's past into consideration, it's still going to be heavily considered in these sorts of instances.[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Seems unnecessary.SolidSnake35
Actually making a fuss about it is what's unnecessary.
Depends what your view of porn is. Personally I wouldn't care... but I can understand some parents caring. Past history is important. They probably liken this to having a murderer read to their kids. The latter may be worse but they're on the same scale. Ok... I highly doubt than any grounded person would compare an adult film star to a murderer....to even state that a legal profession is the same as an illegal act seems fairly ridiculous imo....One is slight immoral... the other is very immoral. Same scale.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
I'm sure that even most people who think porn is immoral would admit that being a pornstar is not on the same on the same "scale" as being a murderer.
Unless they're totally crazy that is.
GreySeal9
By that logic, what other scale is there? :?
Things that aren't immoral aren't on the scale of immoral things. O_o[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] One is slight immoral... the other is very immoral. Same scale.SolidSnake35
By that logic, what other scale is there? :?
Things that aren't immoral aren't on the scale of immoral things. O_oEverything is immoral to somebody.
One is slight immoral... the other is very immoral. Same scale.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
I'm sure that even most people who think porn is immoral would admit that being a pornstar is not on the same on the same "scale" as being a murderer.
Unless they're totally crazy that is.
worlock77
Being judgmental is immoral in some people's eyes. So using your logic - being judgemental is on the same scale as being a murderer.
Yeah, it is. I don't know what you lot are struggling to understand. Being a porn star is immoral according to some. This is why parents won't like it. Consider other immoral things people do, like being a murderer, and it becomes clear that what someone has done in the past IS relevant...[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] One is slight immoral... the other is very immoral. Same scale.SolidSnake35
By that logic, what other scale is there? :?
Things that aren't immoral aren't on the scale of immoral things. O_oHow about a scale in which there are different degrees of immoral?
Or does that make too much sense?
Things that aren't immoral aren't on the scale of immoral things. O_o[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
By that logic, what other scale is there? :?
worlock77
Everything is immoral to somebody.
You don't need to stretch things that far to think that a lot of parents won't agree with pornstars interacting with their kids. I mean I know this is OT and people here love to be all progressive and stuff but geez.[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] One is slight immoral... the other is very immoral. Same scale.SolidSnake35
Being judgmental is immoral in some people's eyes. So using your logic - being judgemental is on the same scale as being a murderer.
Yeah, it is. I don't know what you lot are struggling to understand. Being a porn star is immoral according to some. This is why parents won't like it. Consider other immoral things people do, like being a murderer, and it becomes clear that what someone has done in the past IS relevant...I'm not struggling to understand anything, you're quite simply using a ridiculious metric. Using the logic you're displaying here then everything become comparable to murder, as everything will be immoral in some people's view.
Things that aren't immoral aren't on the scale of immoral things. O_o[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
By that logic, what other scale is there? :?
GreySeal9
How about a scale in which there are different degrees of immoral?
Or does that make too much sense?
Isn't that the scale I was taking about? I think you want two different scales... one scale for slightly immoral things... and another for very immoral things. But that wouldn't mean there isn't an overarching scale that includes things from both.Yeah, it is. I don't know what you lot are struggling to understand. Being a porn star is immoral according to some. This is why parents won't like it. Consider other immoral things people do, like being a murderer, and it becomes clear that what someone has done in the past IS relevant...[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="worlock77"]
Being judgmental is immoral in some people's eyes. So using your logic - being judgemental is on the same scale as being a murderer.
worlock77
I'm not struggling to understand anything, you're quite simply using a ridiculious metric. Using the logic you're displaying here then everything become comparable to murder, as everything will be immoral in some people's view.
You CAN compare anything that you deem immoral to murder. They'd both be immoral. And for THAT reason, we can understand why parents are kicking up a fuss. And I find that totally understandable.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Things that aren't immoral aren't on the scale of immoral things. O_oSolidSnake35
How about a scale in which there are different degrees of immoral?
Or does that make too much sense?
Isn't that the scale I was taking about? I think you want two different scales... one scale for slightly immoral things... and another for very immoral things. But that wouldn't mean there isn't an overarching scale that includes things from both. You're stretching a lot here.....[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Things that aren't immoral aren't on the scale of immoral things. O_oSolidSnake35
How about a scale in which there are different degrees of immoral?
Or does that make too much sense?
Isn't that the scale I was taking about? I think you want two different scales... one scale for slightly immoral things... and another for very immoral things. But that wouldn't mean there isn't an overarching scale that includes things from both.Yeah, I should have responded differently because now this is a semantics **** but what I'm saying is that being a porstar is not comparable to being a murderer and thus the comparison doesn't really make sense. In the common use of the word scale, they are not on the same scale.
Isn't that the scale I was taking about? I think you want two different scales... one scale for slightly immoral things... and another for very immoral things. But that wouldn't mean there isn't an overarching scale that includes things from both.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
How about a scale in which there are different degrees of immoral?
Or does that make too much sense?
GreySeal9
Yeah, I should have responded differently because now this is a semantics **** but what I'm saying is that being a porstar is not comparable to being a murderer and thus the comparison doesn't really make sense.
We can make comparisons between whatever we like. Some are good, others not so good. But my comparison only aims to achieve this: Murder shows how the past actions of a person affect a parent's view of them, and consequently affects whether they would want that person around their kids. I chose murder because its a strong example and highlights that point. Having been a porn star is also an example of past actions that a parent might disagree with.... and, again, will affect whether they would want that person around their kids. My point is this. All you people saying that her past is irrelevant are wrong. A person's past is very relevant to a parent. Show some understanding and quit trying to impress you fellow progressive GameSpotters.I would allow her to read children's books to me at a reasonable volume for 10-15 minutes anytime. ;)
Our education system is already full of sex offenders, child predators, drug addicts, and socially misaligned people. I see no reason why a porn star couldn't be an educator provided they're qualified for the job.
I'd be worried. As an example, what if the reader as an ex-murderer? Sure there is no reason that lifestyle can interfere, but there's the risk. Mr_CumberdaleAre you implying that this woman would start stripping in front of the children? Get real. Being a porn star doesn't cause you to perform lewd sexual acts at inappropriate times.
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