Presidential Address 9/10/2013 8 PM CT

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#1 branketra
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President Obama just recently gave a Presidential Address mainly about Syria's use of chemical weapons and our plans to respond to it. 

What do you think about it?

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#2 EagleEyedOne
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He looks like a weenie.he should have just done it.
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#3 Master_Live
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Did he?
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saw a car the other day with an Obama 12' sticker next to an "end this war" sticker. LOLd hard
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#5 The_Lipscomb
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If were going to keep pushing this.. I would like to go down the most peaceful path possible.

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#6 awptical
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Link

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbIrm42zYTU

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#7 TruthTellers
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It sounded as though this speech had been written a week ago and had bits and pieces added and taken out with the recent developments about Syria giving up its chemical weapons. My question is why didn't Obama demand Syria surrender its chemical weapons two weeks ago instead of making threats? Also, why did he make the "Red line" statement in the first place?
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#8 Master_Live
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My question is why didn't Obama demand Syria surrender its chemical weapons two weeks ago instead of making threats? TruthTellers
Because that wasn't supposed to happen, Kerry made an off hand comment that was seize upon by the Russians. So we might get peace by accidental stupidity.
Also, why did he make the "Red line" statement in the first place?TruthTellers
Because he is a moron. No but really, because he was undisciplined and talked out his ass and now he is looking for any way to save his butt.
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#9 Flubbbs
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still hasnt shown evidence? LOL

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#10 The_Lipscomb
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I also don't think Obama swayed anybody with that speech lol..

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#11 Stesilaus
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The sh1t started spewing out of his mouth almost as soon as he opened it.

"... what began as a series of peaceful protests against the oppressive regime of Bashar Al Assad ... "

:roll:

The following would have been a more truthful introduction:

"... what began as another CIA-orchestrated regime-change operation ... "

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I'm glad he's backing down with the attack option.

Christ knows I don't want gas pricing skyrocketing again like it did back during that disgrace of an Iraq war.

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So once we destroy the chemical weapons, Assad can go back to killing everyone using conventional weapons? What kind of stupid ass shit is this?

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#14 Master_Live
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So once we destroy the chemical weapons, Assad can go back to killing everyone using conventional weapons? What kind of stupid ass shit is this?

JDWolfie
Obama policy.
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#15 CommandoAgent
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still hasnt shown evidence? LOL

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Nope.
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#16 CommandoAgent
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So once we destroy the chemical weapons, Assad can go back to killing everyone using conventional weapons? What kind of stupid ass shit is this?

JDWolfie

Well you can let the rebels control Syria whom have ties with the Saudis and they are the ones whom have being killing Christians.

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#17 comp_atkins
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The sh1t started spewing out of his mouth almost as soon as he opened it.

"... what began as a series of peaceful protests against the oppressive regime of Bashar Al Assad ... "

:roll:

The following would have been a more truthful introduction:

"... what began as another CIA-orchestrated regime-change operation ... "

Stesilaus
man, i'd love to have all the answers like you.
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[QUOTE="JDWolfie"]

So once we destroy the chemical weapons, Assad can go back to killing everyone using conventional weapons? What kind of stupid ass shit is this?

CommandoAgent

Well you can let the rebels control Syria whom have ties with the Saudis and they are the ones whom have being killing Christians.

Yeah lets let the Govt control Syria whom have ties with Iran and Hezbollah and are the ones whom have been killing everyone.
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[QUOTE="CommandoAgent"]

[QUOTE="JDWolfie"]

So once we destroy the chemical weapons, Assad can go back to killing everyone using conventional weapons? What kind of stupid ass shit is this?

Person0

Well you can let the rebels control Syria whom have ties with the Saudis and they are the ones whom have being killing Christians.

Yeah lets let the Govt control Syria whom have ties with Iran and Hezbollah and are the ones whom have been killing everyone.

Or: both are fvcking stupid and not worth saving
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we should send an army of bronies to Syria, they'll scare those people straight.
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#21 CommandoAgent
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[QUOTE="CommandoAgent"]

[QUOTE="JDWolfie"]

So once we destroy the chemical weapons, Assad can go back to killing everyone using conventional weapons? What kind of stupid ass shit is this?

Person0

Well you can let the rebels control Syria whom have ties with the Saudis and they are the ones whom have being killing Christians.

Yeah lets let the Govt control Syria whom have ties with Iran and Hezbollah and are the ones whom have been killing everyone.

Ah its you again, you remind of someone on another forum. Are you an actual gamer here or just someone defending an political agenda of some group?

 

I might also add the Same Saudis  that are supporting the rebels in Syria are arming the Bahrain regime.

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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="CommandoAgent"] Well you can let the rebels control Syria whom have ties with the Saudis and they are the ones whom have being killing Christians.CommandoAgent
Yeah lets let the Govt control Syria whom have ties with Iran and Hezbollah and are the ones whom have been killing everyone.

Ah its you again, you remind of someone on another forum. Are you an actual gamer here or just someone defending an political agenda of some group?

262326544_conspiracy_answer_2_xlarge.jpe

 

 

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#23 The_Lipscomb
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we should send an army of bronies to Syria, they'll scare those people straight.Allicrombie
No.
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#24 Stesilaus
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

The sh1t started spewing out of his mouth almost as soon as he opened it.

"... what began as a series of peaceful protests against the oppressive regime of Bashar Al Assad ... "

:roll:

The following would have been a more truthful introduction:

"... what began as another CIA-orchestrated regime-change operation ... "

comp_atkins

man, i'd love to have all the answers like you.

I don't pretend to "have all the answers".  :|

I rely on the writing of people who have the time and the inclination to conduct the necessary research and who present their conclusions in credible, well-substantiated documents.

In this case, the basis of my statement is the welter of irrefutable and/or readily-testable evidence presented in this essay.

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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

The sh1t started spewing out of his mouth almost as soon as he opened it.

"... what began as a series of peaceful protests against the oppressive regime of Bashar Al Assad ... "

:roll:

The following would have been a more truthful introduction:

"... what began as another CIA-orchestrated regime-change operation ... "

Stesilaus

man, i'd love to have all the answers like you.

I don't pretend to "have all the answers".  :|

I rely on the writing of people who have the time and the inclination to conduct the necessary research and who present their conclusions in credible, well-substantiated documents.

In this case, the basis of my statement is the welter of irrefutable and/or readily-testable evidence presented in this essay.

Remember when we waited 2 years to even talk about directly intervening and when Obama seems to be trying to back out of intervention....oh yeah and the lack of weapons the US is supplying to the rebels.... But yeah it was all a CIA conspiracy...
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[QUOTE="CommandoAgent"][QUOTE="Person0"] Yeah lets let the Govt control Syria whom have ties with Iran and Hezbollah and are the ones whom have been killing everyone.Person0

Ah its you again, you remind of someone on another forum. Are you an actual gamer here or just someone defending an political agenda of some group?

262326544_conspiracy_answer_2_xlarge.jpe

 

 

Playing the conspiracy card when someone tells you something you don't want to hear. A person like you 40 years ago, would've said the same when someone questioned if the Vietnam war was because of a falseflag operation. Cue many years later and you'll just say "Well they're all dead now so what does it matter". Have fun being a sheep that believes everything you're being told while hiding behind pictures.
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#27 Stesilaus
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] man, i'd love to have all the answers like you. Person0

I don't pretend to "have all the answers".  :|

I rely on the writing of people who have the time and the inclination to conduct the necessary research and who present their conclusions in credible, well-substantiated documents.

In this case, the basis of my statement is the welter of irrefutable and/or readily-testable evidence presented in this essay.

Remember when we waited 2 years to even talk about directly intervening

The hope was that Assad could be toppled using Al Qaeda proxies alone.  Seeking a pretext for intervention has become necessary because the Syrian national army has been trouncing the Washington-backed terrorists.

and when Obama seems to be trying to back out of intervention....

He's ostensibly backing out of intervention, for now, because he wasn't able to win either popular or international support with the August 21 false flag operation.  Having invested so much in Syrian regime change already, and because overthrowing Assad is seen as a prerequisite for the upcoming war on Iran, Obama is unlikely to abandon intervention altogether.  The next false flag operation is probably well under way already, although I admit that that's just speculation.

oh yeah and the lack of weapons the US is supplying to the rebels....

What lack is that?  Military.com: US to Arm Syrian Rebels

But yeah it was all a CIA conspiracy...

That it is.

(responses in green above)

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Obama is just another GWB.
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I should never ever be surprised at this sort of irony. I know intellectually that there will be this reversal of the poles on each new transfer of power. I should be MORE surprised in cases when it doesn't happen. Despite this, I do get taken aback from time to time, and this is one of those cases.

This isn't just the usual presidential chairs party game though, and that's probably what's causing me to take more than the usual passive notice. As someone pointed out to me this morning, we have 'Nobel Peace Prize' winning POTUS who wants to bomb some country for the presence of WMD, with Machiavellians like Vladimir Putin negotiating peace. This is BizarroWorld!

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lulz peace prize
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I should never ever be surprised at this sort of irony. I know intellectually that there will be this reversal of the poles on each new transfer of power. I should be MORE surprised in cases when it doesn't happen. Despite this, I do get taken aback from time to time, and this is one of those cases.

This isn't just the usual presidential chairs party game though, and that's probably what's causing me to take more than the usual passive notice. As someone pointed out to me this morning, we have 'Nobel Peace Prize' winning POTUS who wants to bomb some country for the presence of WMD, with Machiavellians like Vladimir Putin negotiating peace. This is BizarroWorld!

m0zart

stopping obama is more important than any other issue to the majority in congress / putin. obama knows this. he secretly doesn't want to bomb anyone, so he pretends he does. as a result congress rises up to oppose it and so do the russians. result, no one gets bombed.

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OT needs to show more faith in the prez. Obama knows what he's doing. It's all good
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#33 Master_Live
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[QUOTE="m0zart"]

I should never ever be surprised at this sort of irony. I know intellectually that there will be this reversal of the poles on each new transfer of power. I should be MORE surprised in cases when it doesn't happen. Despite this, I do get taken aback from time to time, and this is one of those cases.

This isn't just the usual presidential chairs party game though, and that's probably what's causing me to take more than the usual passive notice. As someone pointed out to me this morning, we have 'Nobel Peace Prize' winning POTUS who wants to bomb some country for the presence of WMD, with Machiavellians like Vladimir Putin negotiating peace. This is BizarroWorld!

comp_atkins

stopping obama is more important than any other issue to the majority in congress / putin. obama knows this. he secretly doesn't want to bomb anyone, so he pretends he does. as a result congress rises up to oppose it and so do the russians. result, no one gets bombed.

That is just weak reasoning. So basically Obama is so brilliant that he intended everything that has happened just like it has? The President has seemed weak, indecisive, incompetent and has spent precious political capital in something he never intended to do? You think to highly of him.
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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

I don't pretend to "have all the answers".  :|

I rely on the writing of people who have the time and the inclination to conduct the necessary research and who present their conclusions in credible, well-substantiated documents.

In this case, the basis of my statement is the welter of irrefutable and/or readily-testable evidence presented in this essay.

Stesilaus

Remember when we waited 2 years to even talk about directly intervening

The hope was that Assad could be toppled using Al Qaeda proxies alone.  Seeking a pretext for intervention has become necessary because the Syrian national army has been trouncing the Washington-backed terrorists.

and when Obama seems to be trying to back out of intervention....

He's ostensibly backing out of intervention, for now, because he wasn't able to win either popular or international support with the August 21 false flag operation.  Having invested so much in Syrian regime change already, and because overthrowing Assad is seen as a prerequisite for the upcoming war on Iran, Obama is unlikely to abandon intervention altogether.  The next false flag operation is probably well under way already, although I admit that that's just speculation.

oh yeah and the lack of weapons the US is supplying to the rebels....

What lack is that?  Military.com: US to Arm Syrian Rebels

But yeah it was all a CIA conspiracy...

That it is.

(responses in green above)

The Al-Qaeda linked rebels didn't start coming in mass for a couple months-a year of the civil war..... If the entire govt was in on this plan they would attack regardless of public opinion, especially Obama he is already in his second term not like he has much to lose. Yes we said we will arm the rebels, now show me an article that shows we actually are sending them lots of weapons (hint you cant because we aren't)
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

[QUOTE="m0zart"]

I should never ever be surprised at this sort of irony. I know intellectually that there will be this reversal of the poles on each new transfer of power. I should be MORE surprised in cases when it doesn't happen. Despite this, I do get taken aback from time to time, and this is one of those cases.

This isn't just the usual presidential chairs party game though, and that's probably what's causing me to take more than the usual passive notice. As someone pointed out to me this morning, we have 'Nobel Peace Prize' winning POTUS who wants to bomb some country for the presence of WMD, with Machiavellians like Vladimir Putin negotiating peace. This is BizarroWorld!

Master_Live

stopping obama is more important than any other issue to the majority in congress / putin. obama knows this. he secretly doesn't want to bomb anyone, so he pretends he does. as a result congress rises up to oppose it and so do the russians. result, no one gets bombed.

That is just weak reasoning. So basically Obama is so brilliant that he intended everything that has happened just like it has? The President has seemed weak, indecisive, incompetent and has spent precious political capital in something he never intended to do? You think to highly of him.

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The sh1t started spewing out of his mouth almost as soon as he opened it.

"... what began as a series of peaceful protests against the oppressive regime of Bashar Al Assad ... "

:roll:

The following would have been a more truthful introduction:

"... what began as another CIA-orchestrated regime-change operation ... "

Stesilaus
You're officially worse than Banjo, and that's saying something.
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#37 mingmao3046
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

The sh1t started spewing out of his mouth almost as soon as he opened it.

"... what began as a series of peaceful protests against the oppressive regime of Bashar Al Assad ... "

:roll:

The following would have been a more truthful introduction:

"... what began as another CIA-orchestrated regime-change operation ... "

HoolaHoopMan
You're officially worse than Banjo, and that's saying something.

he's right though......
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

The sh1t started spewing out of his mouth almost as soon as he opened it.

"... what began as a series of peaceful protests against the oppressive regime of Bashar Al Assad ... "

:roll:

The following would have been a more truthful introduction:

"... what began as another CIA-orchestrated regime-change operation ... "

mingmao3046
You're officially worse than Banjo, and that's saying something.

he's right though......

No he's not. The demonstrations were peaceful at the start and just another off shoot of the Arab spring. Unless of course you're under the assumption that every demonstration of the Arab spring was orchestrated by the CIA in the first place.